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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/sweden-riots-husby-stockholm-suburb-police-shooting_n_3306185.html
First of all, I hope we can have a fruitful and cordial discussion on this topic. Being from America, I don't hear much news about Sweden (other than esports), but every time I do, it's about riots caused by the same minority group in Sweden. Now, I can't pretend to know the social dynamics of the country, but if there's a consistent pattern to social unrest in the country, why doesn't anyone do anything about it? I know Sweden is all about equality and whatnot, but at what point do you say enough and protect the citizens of the country?
Gangs of youth angered by the police shooting death of an elderly man in a mainly immigrant neighborhood hurled rocks at police and set cars and buildings on fire in a Stockholm suburb early Monday, forcing the evacuation of an apartment block.
Around 50 youths were involved in the riots in the suburb of Husby, police spokesman Lars Bystrom said.
The youths set light to a parking garage, compelling police to evacuate residents from an adjacent apartment block, Bystrom said. Residents were allowed to return home after a couple of hours.
Around 80 percent of the roughly 11,000 people living in Husby – a drab, low-income neighborhood of apartment blocks west of Stockholm – are first or second generation immigrants.
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Gangs of youth
Aka gangs of mostly-Muslim youth that Sweden has made little to no effort to assimilate into Swedish society...
angered by the police shooting death of an elderly man in a mainly immigrant neighborhood
Also angered by the fact that Sweden is quietly a quite racist country.
Lots of social problems are just swept under the rug in Europe.
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Young angry frustrated people do stupid shit, i think this has less to do with minority/race what not rather then the frustration that no jobs can be found. Also the police are sadly under represented on the street, they dont seem to patrol at all just engage when called upon,
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On May 21 2013 09:19 JacobDaKung wrote:
Young angry frustrated people do stupid shit, i think this has less to do with minority/race what not rather then the frustration that no jobs can be found. Also the police are sadly under represented on the street, they dont seem to patrol at all just engage when called upon,
Except every time there's a riot that's being reported, it's started by one racial group. A hint: You can hear Allah Akbar during these riots.
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United States43643 Posts
On May 21 2013 09:22 kakaman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:19 JacobDaKung wrote:
Young angry frustrated people do stupid shit, i think this has less to do with minority/race what not rather then the frustration that no jobs can be found. Also the police are sadly under represented on the street, they dont seem to patrol at all just engage when called upon, Except every time there's a riot that's being reported, it's started by one racial group. A hint: You can hear Allah Akbar during these riots.
I disagree. The riots in England were from multiple racial groups with different ethnic and religious backgrounds.
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On May 21 2013 09:22 kakaman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:19 JacobDaKung wrote:
Young angry frustrated people do stupid shit, i think this has less to do with minority/race what not rather then the frustration that no jobs can be found. Also the police are sadly under represented on the street, they dont seem to patrol at all just engage when called upon, Except every time there's a riot that's being reported, it's started by one racial group. A hint: You can hear Allah Akbar during these riots.
how about no, several "riots" has been started by confrontation between left and right groups, dont mention the soccer huliganism. I think it is very cute that you try to spread racist propaganda from USA about Sweden.
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On May 21 2013 09:17 DeepElemBlues wrote:Aka gangs of mostly-Muslim youth that Sweden has made little to no effort to assimilate into Swedish society... Show nested quote +angered by the police shooting death of an elderly man in a mainly immigrant neighborhood Also angered by the fact that Sweden is quietly a quite racist country.Lots of social problems are just swept under the rug in Europe.
the huffington post doesnt do an article about it for americans to read = swept under the rug.
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On May 21 2013 09:24 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:22 kakaman wrote:On May 21 2013 09:19 JacobDaKung wrote:
Young angry frustrated people do stupid shit, i think this has less to do with minority/race what not rather then the frustration that no jobs can be found. Also the police are sadly under represented on the street, they dont seem to patrol at all just engage when called upon, Except every time there's a riot that's being reported, it's started by one racial group. A hint: You can hear Allah Akbar during these riots. I disagree. The riots in England were from multiple racial groups with different ethnic and religious backgrounds.
Not sure about the UK, but I'm commenting on the riots I read about in Sweden.
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In all of Europe most problems with immigrants are created by one particular group. If only all immigrants came from east asia or western countries.
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Isn't Sweden supposed to be the most fantabulous country on Earth ? An example for all others to model themselves after ? What is this, trouble in paradise ? I had no idea there were any problems in this country. I'm quite shocked to read this article.
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People in the suburbs are angry and frustrated.
With all rights ofcourse
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On May 21 2013 09:17 DeepElemBlues wrote:Aka gangs of mostly-Muslim youth that Sweden has made little to no effort to assimilate into Swedish society... Show nested quote +angered by the police shooting death of an elderly man in a mainly immigrant neighborhood Also angered by the fact that Sweden is quietly a quite racist country.Lots of social problems are just swept under the rug in Europe.
Always love it when Americans reveal their ignorance by talking about "Europe" as if it was some kind of nation.
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On May 21 2013 09:24 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:22 kakaman wrote:On May 21 2013 09:19 JacobDaKung wrote:
Young angry frustrated people do stupid shit, i think this has less to do with minority/race what not rather then the frustration that no jobs can be found. Also the police are sadly under represented on the street, they dont seem to patrol at all just engage when called upon, Except every time there's a riot that's being reported, it's started by one racial group. A hint: You can hear Allah Akbar during these riots. I disagree. The riots in England were from multiple racial groups with different ethnic and religious backgrounds.
The two main groups in the English riots were white-skinned English trash with no religion and brown-skinned trash with the Muslim religion.
Doesn't change the fact that in the major non-Greek riots in Europe the last ten years the main perpetrators or a major group of the perpetrators were poor brown-skinned Muslims. Who were/are rioting because the white-skinned people who make the decisions don't give two fucks about them.
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I have two friends who are Swedish Democrats and although they are a minority, it is not a super tiny group and they actually have parliamentary representation.
There is most certainly a lot of frustration and racism going on in Sweden.
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If I'm not mistaken, Sweden is very "anti-immigration." Not that they hate the people that come there, but wish them to become Swedish rather than bring in their own heritage.
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I don't know about this particular situation but in general, If you so much as whisper a negative thing about the immigration situation in Sweden you'll be labeled a racist.
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On May 21 2013 09:27 Kaitlin wrote:
Isn't Sweden supposed to be the most fantabulous country on Earth ? An example for all others to model themselves after ? What is this, trouble in paradise ? I had no idea there were any problems in this country. I'm quite shocked to read this article.
Yeah, according to Reddit, it's the best place on Earth. I'm shocked that it's not perfect, frankly (sarcasm).
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On May 21 2013 09:33 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:27 Kaitlin wrote:
Isn't Sweden supposed to be the most fantabulous country on Earth ? An example for all others to model themselves after ? What is this, trouble in paradise ? I had no idea there were any problems in this country. I'm quite shocked to read this article. Yeah, according to Reddit, it's the best place on Earth. I'm shocked that it's not perfect, frankly (sarcasm).
It's very subjective 
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On May 21 2013 09:29 Monsen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:17 DeepElemBlues wrote:Gangs of youth Aka gangs of mostly-Muslim youth that Sweden has made little to no effort to assimilate into Swedish society... angered by the police shooting death of an elderly man in a mainly immigrant neighborhood Also angered by the fact that Sweden is quietly a quite racist country.Lots of social problems are just swept under the rug in Europe. Always love it when Americans reveal their ignorance by talking about "Europe" as if it was some kind of nation.
Always love it when some smug ignorant European makes himself look dumb.
Your continent is the most racist place in the world outside of the Middle East or Asia. Just start any thread about Roma here at TL and watch the hate from France to Poland and everywhere in between pour in. Just look at the football hooliganism racism that stains European football. Just look at the riots in France, the riots in England, the riots now in Sweden, riots of the mostly-brown-skinned against the mostly-white-skinned powers that be. Why? Because for some reason, in heaven on earth, Europe, people who don't have white skin seem to have big trouble getting out of poverty, getting a quality education, getting hired at quality jobs. Where's all that social welfare spending going that white people in Europe are doing so much better than non-white people?
Adding to the last two links I posted:
http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/3249/racism-and-discrimination-still-pervasive-in-europe
http://cms.horus.be/files/99935/MediaArchive/pdfpress/13-03-20 shadow report 2011-12 final.pdf
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/04/racism-europe-football-editorial
http://www.dw.de/racism-increases-in-greece/a-16773119
I could go on and on but it's not really necessary.
Racism is a pervasive, Europe-wide problem, and there is not one country that is particularly better or worse than any other (except France, they're really bad racists there).
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On May 21 2013 09:36 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:29 Monsen wrote:On May 21 2013 09:17 DeepElemBlues wrote:Gangs of youth Aka gangs of mostly-Muslim youth that Sweden has made little to no effort to assimilate into Swedish society... angered by the police shooting death of an elderly man in a mainly immigrant neighborhood Also angered by the fact that Sweden is quietly a quite racist country.Lots of social problems are just swept under the rug in Europe. Always love it when Americans reveal their ignorance by talking about "Europe" as if it was some kind of nation. Always love it when some smug ignorant European makes himself look dumb. Your continent is the most racist place in the world outside of the Middle East or Asia. Just start any thread about Roma here at TL and watch the hate from France to Poland and everywhere in between pour in. Just look at the football hooliganism racism that stains European football. Just look at the riots in France, the riots in England, the riots now in Sweden, riots of the mostly-brown-skinned against the mostly-white-skinned powers that be. Why? Because for some reason, in heaven on earth, Europe, people who don't have white skin seem to have big trouble getting out of poverty, getting a quality education, getting hired at quality jobs. Where's all that social welfare spending going that white people in Europe are doing so much better than non-white people? Adding to the last two links I posted: http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/3249/racism-and-discrimination-still-pervasive-in-europehttp://cms.horus.be/files/99935/MediaArchive/pdfpress/13-03-20 shadow report 2011-12 final.pdfhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/04/racism-europe-football-editorialhttp://www.dw.de/racism-increases-in-greece/a-16773119I could go on and on but it's not really necessary. Racism is a pervasive, Europe-wide problem, and there is not one country that is particularly better or worse than any other (except France, they're really bad racists there).
Are you fucking kidding me? Racism is everywhere, there's no way to gauge who is worse when it comes to racism.
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