• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:33
CEST 01:33
KST 08:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 220ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players Server Blocker Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10697 users

HasuObs 'Grilled' interview (50 mins)

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 21:01:06
January 07 2013 20:57 GMT
#1
[image loading]

Dennis "(P)HasuObs" Schneider is the star of the 27th episode of my 'Grilled' interview series.

Some of the topics discussed:
- If young WC3 players like (P)NaNiwa, (P)SaSe and (Z)Stephano would have gone on to be top players, had SC2 not come out.
- How WC3 compares to SC2 in terms of balance, map rotations and opportunities for newer players to break into the scene
- The plight of Zerg in the days of Terran dominance compared to Terran now in the Zerg era.
- Is (P)Rain more skilled than (P)MC?
- If Protoss is skillcapped at all.
- Whether HasuObs would consider becoming a full-time analytical caster.

Whether NaNiwa, SaSe and co would have been as successful in WC3 as they have been in SC2:
"I think the answer's no, I don't think that SaSe or NaNiwa would be as successful as they are in SC2, same for me though. I think in the end of WC3 there were a certain amount of players, like 15-20, and they were always invited to tournaments, and they were by far the best, like it was very hard to reach that level. I think it was also very hard to find really good practice at the end of WC3, so it was hard to become better. It seemed like those 15 players, they just had a different level, like they were one level above all the other players, and somehow it was very hard to get into that level.

I think the only player who managed to do that was LucifroN in the end. LucifroN was an underdog for a really long time, then he started to win tournaments and compete with the very best. But I think he was really the only guy who managed to do that in last two years of WC3, all the other players had been there for several years and been successful.

In SC2 it was a very fresh game, you had to learn new skills because it plays differently from WC3 but also from BW, like the unit micro and the movement is very different, so everyone had to learn it new. So everyone started basically with zero and then you have to adapt to the game, learn new strategies, new timings. It seems like because of many new players there were a lot of fresh players, fresh strategies, that seemed to be really important for the RTS scene overall. Now we see some old players doing really well, but some of the others never managed to do that well, they just fell apart, so they couldn't really transition to the game well."


Comparing Rain to MC:
"[Rain's] understanding of SC2 is just a little bit better than anyone else, as a Protoss player. He uses builds which noone else does, which means that he invented them, and they are very clean as well. At least for me, it's very hard to copy his builds, [they] requires a lot of multi-tasking, you're gonna have the warp prism on the map, you're gonna harass, and at the same time you don't do any kind of mistakes in your macro game, which actually requires a lot of skill.

MC most of the time, especially when he won a lot of tournaments, was very timing based. There were so many famous two base all-ins of MC, that was just the way that Protoss was gonna win the game, so you can't blame him for that. That's just a totally different approach [to] the game, when you see those two playing. Recently MC is not winning too much anymore, he lost to Grubby at the IEM in Singapore, and I think there was another foreign tournament where he dropped out early, which didn't happen before."


The entire 50m45s interview can be watched at Team Acer.
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 21:02:06
January 07 2013 21:01 GMT
#2
SaSe was a top player (relatively speaking) in WC3 - don't know why the interviewer and HasuObs seem to think he is much better in SC2? For me SaSe has been pretty much at the exact level in both games - capable of beating the best, but rarely winning tournaments.

Loving these interviews btw. Keep 'em coming.
Gubbernecco
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany170 Posts
January 07 2013 21:10 GMT
#3
On January 08 2013 06:01 OKMarius wrote:
SaSe was a top player (relatively speaking) in WC3 - don't know why the interviewer and HasuObs seem to think he is much better in SC2? For me SaSe has been pretty much at the exact level in both games - capable of beating the best, but rarely winning tournaments.

Loving these interviews btw. Keep 'em coming.


in certain times sase was 3rd best foreigner in wc3, but hasu should know it, they were on the same team at this time
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 07 2013 21:16 GMT
#4
Yeah Sase was super good, at least as good as he is now in sc2 imo.

Great interview, go Hasu!!!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
January 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#5
On January 08 2013 06:01 OKMarius wrote:
SaSe was a top player (relatively speaking) in WC3 - don't know why the interviewer and HasuObs seem to think he is much better in SC2? For me SaSe has been pretty much at the exact level in both games - capable of beating the best, but rarely winning tournaments.

Loving these interviews btw. Keep 'em coming.

I have never watched an entire pro game of WC3.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#6
Hey Thorin! These are great! I'm really enjoying the interviews.
Greetings!
✉ Tweets @sc2channel ⌦ Blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/JOJO ⌫ "Arbiterssss... build more arbiterssss." Click 'Profile' for awesome shiro art!
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 22:39:19
January 07 2013 22:33 GMT
#7
Apparently Thorin was wreaking havoc at the HSC by doing interviews with literally every player. I think the Grilled-series has become one of the most important parts of the current esports-journalism. So pls keep up the good work. I thought this here was one of the most interesting ones, even though Hasu was digressing from time to time.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 07 2013 22:47 GMT
#8
Thorin, you seem to be unaware that SaSe was among the top foreigners in wc3? I didn't comment on this in your last interview since you made clear that your knowledge about the game was lacking but SaSe actually won a DH and had several high placements in many big tournaments. He was beating players like Grubby, ToD, TH000, Moon, Lucifer etc. etc. in big offline lan events during his career. He was also living in China for some time and staying on par with the chinese players.

I think it would be more appropriate to say wc3 amateurs like "ThorZaIN, Naniwa, Stephano", since ThorZaIN only had a single good tournament and it was really late.
PavelDatsyuk88
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden55 Posts
January 08 2013 08:15 GMT
#9
nice, Hasu always a pleasure to listen.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 08 2013 09:43 GMT
#10
yet another great interview cheers!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
January 09 2013 03:36 GMT
#11
very indepth interview, enjoyed it alot.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
January 09 2013 03:40 GMT
#12
These interviews so long ;] I watched some of it! gj!
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech127
FoxeR 120
Nina 5
Counter-Strike
summit1g10967
fl0m1483
Other Games
Grubby3472
FrodaN3386
byalli566
PiGStarcraft375
KnowMe208
ViBE157
ArmadaUGS83
UpATreeSC53
JuggernautJason23
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream140
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta64
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki29
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1461
Other Games
• imaqtpie975
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
27m
HomeStory Cup
11h 57m
OSC
13h 27m
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.