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Should non-gun owners be registered and fined?

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Swazi Spring
Profile Joined September 2012
United States415 Posts
December 08 2012 00:51 GMT
#1
Bearing arms is not only a fundamental human right, but it is also a civic duty. The Founding Fathers realized this and even made laws that required all able-bodied citizens to own firearms. They did this not only for personal protection, but also to keep the state in check and to discourage foreign invaders. In more recent times local governments have made it mandatory for all citizens to own guns and fined those who violated the law.

In Vermont a new law has been proposed that will require all non-gun owners to register with the state and face fines. Do you believe that people who refuse to perform their civic duties should be fined?

Source: http://gunowners.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/vermont-bill-would-fine-citizens-for-not-having-a-firearm/

Poll: Should non-gun owners be registered and fined?

Non-gun owners shouldn't be registered and fined. (38)
 
84%

Non-gun owners should be registered and fined. (7)
 
16%

Undecided. (0)
 
0%

45 total votes

Your vote: Should non-gun owners be registered and fined?

(Vote): Non-gun owners should be registered and fined.
(Vote): Non-gun owners shouldn't be registered and fined.
(Vote): Undecided.



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jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
December 08 2012 00:52 GMT
#2
wat, no really what the hell is this?
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
Twilight Sparkle
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 00:53:34
December 08 2012 00:53 GMT
#3
lol

Something something only in America.
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
December 08 2012 00:53 GMT
#4
An extremely aggressively formulated pro gun-ownership first post? This will go well.
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
December 08 2012 00:54 GMT
#5
USA will never stop to amaze me !

User was warned for this post
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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
December 08 2012 00:54 GMT
#6
On December 08 2012 09:53 Twilight Sparkle wrote:
lol

Something something only in America.


Thats exactly what i thought. But meh.. I just laugh quietly at that stupidty. And no, no american could explain to me why that is not borderline stupid.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 08 2012 00:55 GMT
#7
As a proud owner of two guns and longtime citizen of Texas.

You're fucking nuts if you think this is a good idea.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
December 08 2012 00:56 GMT
#8
On December 08 2012 09:53 Yuljan wrote:
An extremely aggressively formulated pro gun-ownership first post? This will go well.

I am loling at this one. I am sure this thread will go very, very well...

The appeal to the Founding Fathers is bound to rub everyone the wrong way too. This is a well formulated post, but I think he should have eased in to it a bit more. Lots of people won't take it seriously because he came on too heavy in the beginning. (Trolling advice)

Voted that they should be fined and listed, of course.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
December 08 2012 00:57 GMT
#9
I disagree with this. A state shouldn't force someone to buy something that doesn't have a negative externality on others. This is not the same as a state-mandated healthcare purchase.

Guns are a right, not an obligation. It should stay that way.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
December 08 2012 00:57 GMT
#10
It's shockingly awful idea at first glance, but honestly it would probably work for Vermont. Of course only enforce over a certain yearly income but with America falling apart in the next 10 years I suggest everyone get armed. Before you freak out and spit your bs let's just decide to wait those years and see if you actually wish you had a gun ~~~~
Chance favors the prepared mind.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
December 08 2012 00:59 GMT
#11
Swazi making his long anticipated comeback since the election thread.

BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
December 08 2012 00:59 GMT
#12
On December 08 2012 09:54 Cosmos wrote:
USA will never stop to amaze me !


It was introduced in a state legislature, not passed. Big difference here. There are a number of random crazies scattered throughout state governments as representatives. It only takes one bad apple to introduce it. In Wisconsin we had a legislator suggest arming school teachers a while ago, and he was widely laughed at when he introduced it.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 01:00:46
December 08 2012 01:00 GMT
#13
"Only in the U.S"
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 08 2012 01:00 GMT
#14
On December 08 2012 09:51 Swazi Spring wrote:
The Founding Fathers realized this and even made laws that required all able-bodied citizens to own firearms. They did this not only for personal protection, but also to keep the state in check and to discourage foreign invaders.


On another note, when are those Chinese going to finish that damn wall. Do they still doubt the Mongols?
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
December 08 2012 01:00 GMT
#15
I .. guys .. your responses ...


dont tell me this is

uh

real ?
Where is my ACE flair
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
December 08 2012 01:01 GMT
#16
maybe if we had like, orc invasions every day or something. or if there was giant ape people that fucked shit up every full moon.

otherwise... I'm not so sure I want everyone to have guns. I mean, I'm all for more people carrying guns, but forcing people who don't want them (and can't shoot straight) to have them... yeah, we'd all better have eyes in the backs of our heads if that ever happens.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
December 08 2012 01:02 GMT
#17
he's trolling he posted same thread on another forum he just joined.
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
December 08 2012 01:02 GMT
#18
This law makes no sense. They(people being fined) should probably take it to the federal court system to challenge this decision. But if this bill is there to keep the federal government from ever trying to take over the state or town, then I could see this being a good law to have from an anti-tyrannical perspective.

I say its unconstitutional to force such a law, it never said it was mandatory to bare arms. Its your freedom to choose.
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
Timmsh
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
December 08 2012 01:02 GMT
#19
Conspiracy theorists would claim that the guns industry would arrange this kind of laws :-)
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
December 08 2012 01:27 GMT
#20
Read up on the source a little bit more - This thing is a little more than someone trying to grab some headlines, and leads to nothing more than typical America bashing by people who don't even want to do any research on it.
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