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With all the balance whine about Zerg OP and the ZvZ current finals I just wanted to point out something.
There hasn't been a single GSL event since they started (all the way back to 2010 GSL 1) in which the Ro32 for the event did not have terran as the most represented race. (Note: I am considering Code S / Code A as one event and only looking at Code S. If you look at Code A alone then this is true for every Code A except 2011 Mar and Oct).
The question of whether or not the matchup is exciting, dynamic, or good for spectators or not is completely different. Just wanted to point out how long terran has dominated the GSL and that blizzard should not be rushing to change anything major, especially since HotS is coming in only 4 months.
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Thanks Siphyo for the graph
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/6/6c/GSLraceW.png)
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2013 Jan GSL: Zerg finally gets a plurality 5P, 13T, 14Z.
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this is because earlier, terran WAS the strongest race, ´but until mid 2012 terran has got the weakest (imao)
and because earlier there were so many terrans because it was the strongest race, there still is this big MASS of korean terrans, who are still pretty good at the game, they belong into code S, and if you look at EU ladder 10 % terran, 30 % toss 60 % zerg, and also at IPL the race distribution is a big big joke 
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People expect Blizzard to do any major balance changes right now, but I'm pretty sure nothing will happen until HoTS.
Hopefully the beta will get better soon and tournaments will start switching to mix things up a bit.
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Terran is probably the most represented race among the pros in Korea, and also a lot of those terrans are just top players. Not sure if this is relevant.
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On December 02 2012 07:13 Qikz wrote:
People expect Blizzard to do any major balance changes right now, but I'm pretty sure nothing will happen until HoTS.
Hopefully the beta will get better soon and tournaments will start switching to mix things up a bit.
Tournaments won't switch until release I am pretty sure. I do wish at least some tournaments would happen for hots as it might encourage more pros to play hots at least online cups anyway would be nice >>.
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On December 02 2012 07:12 peia wrote:this is because earlier, terran WAS the strongest race, ´but until mid 2012 terran has got the weakest (imao) and because earlier there were so many terrans because it was the strongest race, there still is this big MASS of korean terrans, who are still pretty good at the game, they belong into code S, and if you look at EU ladder 10 % terran, 30 % toss 60 % zerg, and also at IPL the race distribution is a big big joke
nice facts about EU ladder bro, can i see source?
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And yet only Mvp has been able to make it to the finals this year.
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I'm interested in some statistical comparison between the periods of terran domination and zerg domination in SC2 so far.
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On December 02 2012 07:15 EU.Pink wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 07:12 peia wrote:this is because earlier, terran WAS the strongest race, ´but until mid 2012 terran has got the weakest (imao) and because earlier there were so many terrans because it was the strongest race, there still is this big MASS of korean terrans, who are still pretty good at the game, they belong into code S, and if you look at EU ladder 10 % terran, 30 % toss 60 % zerg, and also at IPL the race distribution is a big big joke nice facts about EU ladder bro, can i see source?
I believe his race distribution is imaginary if you want source look at http://www.sc2ranks.com/
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It sounds alot like: "Terrans had success and were stronger than other races so now another race is allowed to be imbalanced if so be"
And assuming you wanted to say this please don't argue like that.
Or would you like to be enslaved because we enslaved black people just because as a "revenge" they are allowed to. (I am sorry for making such a drastic comparison, but I hope everyone gets it for once and for all)
And on the other hand if Terrans were able to sustain such a amount of them in the GSL till now you shouldn't say they change the Meta because this indicates the complete opposite: They have been changing the Meta etc and it is not working anymore (Which means a buff is needed)
All in all I don't want to say any of this is true(Just wanted to point out some flaws in your argumentation which you got IMO) but Blizzard should let the possibility of buffing open.
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refer to my signature, thank you.
This will be the first gsl finals I'm not gonna watch, but then again sc2 has gotten a lot less interesting for quite some time now, at least I get some dota2 @ wcg to pass the time :D.
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On December 02 2012 07:12 peia wrote:this is because earlier, terran WAS the strongest race, ´but until mid 2012 terran has got the weakest (imao) and because earlier there were so many terrans because it was the strongest race, there still is this big MASS of korean terrans, who are still pretty good at the game, they belong into code S, and if you look at EU ladder 10 % terran, 30 % toss 60 % zerg, and also at IPL the race distribution is a big big joke
Last patch was may 2012. That's only 7 months ago, the metagame has started to shift around but it still hasn't settled. Terran never used to have to really think about how to beat BL/Infestor since they would win so often without getting there. I'm just trying to point out how slow balance/metagame changes and that we really should not be crying Zerg OP or trying to do much before HotS. All the effort for balance (especially game changes to make the matchups less stale) should be focused there.
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Look at the terrans we have there: MVP, Taeja, Marineking, Maru, Polt, Gumiho, Ryung, Happy, Keen, Hack, Yoda, Bogus, BByong, Baby.
With the exception of Yoda, Hack and the 3 Kespa players (Baby got a seed btw!) these are provenly very skilled players who have a ton of experience in SC2 and in the GOM booth. Since Zerg and Protoss caught up only in late 2011, those players need some time and have to fight with issues that are completely non-SC2-related. Most of the current set of good Zerg and Protoss players are fairly new to the top scene and need to adapt to the constant pressure and other external things influencing their performance.
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On December 02 2012 07:19 ChillPhiju wrote:
It sounds alot like: "Terrans had success and were stronger than other races so now another race is allowed to be imbalanced if so be"
And assuming you wanted to say this please don't argue like that.
Or would you like to be enslaved because we enslaved black people just because as a "revenge" they are allowed to. (I am sorry for making such a drastic comparison, but I hope everyone gets it for once and for all)
And on the other hand if Terrans were able to sustain such a amount of them in the GSL till now you shouldn't say they change the Meta because this indicates the complete opposite: They have been changing the Meta etc and it is not working anymore (Which means a buff is needed)
All in all I don't want to say any of this is true(Just wanted to point out some flaws in your argumentation which you got IMO) but Blizzard should let the possibility of buffing open.
What... the fuck...?
On topic; particularly in Korea and the GSL, there are more Terrans than Protoss and Zerg. So I don't see how it's relevant.
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Plurality in the first round doesn't directly indicate anything about balance. GSL Open Season 1 had a Protoss plurality in the Ro64 (I find it funny that OP cherrypicked the Ro32 so he technically wouldn't be wrong), yet we all know how Protoss fared for a while in the early days of the GSL. What matters is who actually is winning once the games start, and the top spots in most tournaments right now indicate that Zerg is. Sure, Toss is doing well in WCS and WCG, but that's just because we had top-tier Korean Toss(es) against a bunch of foreigners.
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surely terrans werent in that much denial two years ago?
i mean the current amount of zerg apologists and martyrs is simply insane, lol
and btw can someone explain to the OP who is boxer and why terrans are so numerous in korea?
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You know it is a point against what you want to say, stating there are a ton of Terrans in the GSL. It is a good proof that the other races have one or two benefits that enables the few Zergs and Protoss players in GSL to not be outmassed by the Terrans and still take alot of Titles.
And the mass of Terrans in the GSL just comes from the Beta, when Terran was considered to easy to abuse on high level making alot of people switch.
Not that any of this matters, because there are so many factors working into this that there is no real data to gain.
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On December 02 2012 07:28 xPabt wrote:This year I meant.
ahh, thanks for clarifying ^_^;
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