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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 17:53:58
November 11 2012 17:14 GMT
#1
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5848167253#1
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5848167253#15

I want to be as clear as I can on our current position of the Infestor in Wings of Liberty.

- We are not going to make any changes before BWC.
- We are going to continue to watch games and gather data.
- We will discuss changes.
- We may try a balance map sometime after BWC.
- We may try some changes in Swarm Beta, using that as a test-bed for stuff we could bring back into Wings of Liberty.

At this time I could see these as possible outcomes:
- We nerf Infested Terrans, Fungal Growth or both.
- We make a change to the Infestor (hit points, movement speed, etc.).
- We do a change to how the unit is designed (add a projectile back to Fungal Growth, increase the visibility of burrowed units while they are moving, etc.).
- We buff some of the potential counters (EMP, Feedback).
- We do a combination of any of the above.
- We see something that makes us decide that doing nothing is the right answer. Obviously if this occurs we would share this data or reasoning.

For those of you who believe that this is too slow a response, I am sorry.


EDIT: "Rock" is Dustin Browder himself. BWC (aka WCS) is scheduled to start on November 17.


On November 12 2012 02:29 SarcasmMonster wrote:
A video of what Fungal looked like when they tested it as a projectile before it got revoked:

ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
November 11 2012 17:17 GMT
#2
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
November 11 2012 17:18 GMT
#3
It's about time !!
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
November 11 2012 17:18 GMT
#4
Oh I thought it was TheRock[3.33] haha.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
November 11 2012 17:18 GMT
#5
So hypocritical.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
November 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#6
What a succinct and honest statement. I'm sad that the world championships might get fucked over because of the balance, but as long as we're constantly moving towards a better game, I'm happy.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
November 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#7
BWC is Nov 17 for those wondering.
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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
November 11 2012 17:21 GMT
#8
On November 12 2012 02:19 SiguR wrote:
What a succinct and honest statement. I'm sad that the world championships might get fucked over because of the balance, but as long as we're constantly moving towards a better game, I'm happy.


Yeah, but it would I think even be worse if a week before the tournament there would be a huge nerf for the Infestor. It would screw over Zerg players so badly. It isn't a pretty situation but waiting until after the tournament is the right decision.
Pokemon Master
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
November 11 2012 17:21 GMT
#9
So this is a more or less a "yes, we will nerf them". And that nerf seems quite drastical. We will see
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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 17:23:16
November 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#10
I would love to see a projectile added back to Fungal Growth. It's a super powerful spell so it should be harder to pull off.
Pokemon Master
Abusion
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom184 Posts
November 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#11
On November 12 2012 02:21 FatBat wrote:
So this is a more or less a "yes, we will nerf them". And that nerf seems quite drastical. We will see


No it means they'll ''monitor data'' which means they could do nothing at all.
Pylons + Probes
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
November 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#12
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#13
Since BWC is next weekend I hope we can see a patch to fix the infestor before November is over, or at latest early December.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
November 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#14
Personally I'm no longer interested or invested into what happens to infestors (or balance in general). What I do know is Blizzard has dug themselves into a hole.

They have not been consistent in the way they balance and their comments on infestors in particular have caused a lot of consternation. This reminds me of situation in WoW where for almost a year they refused to touch mage damage despite a lot of community action. When they finally conceded and made the change, it didn't matter. They were ridiculed and had lost respect.

I see the same situation happening here. When they do finally make a change, and rest assured they will, the uproar will be louder than the welcome.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
November 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#15
I suppose with BWC they mean WCS.
http://www.twitter.com/Paragleiber
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
November 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#16
Yes, finally. Hopefully they will be put more in line with Ghosts and HTs now.
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#17
On November 12 2012 02:19 SiguR wrote:
What a succinct and honest statement. I'm sad that the world championships might get fucked over because of the balance, but as long as we're constantly moving towards a better game, I'm happy.

Changing the Infestor this close to World Championships would be a big mistake too though. I just hope they're not afraid to redesign the infestor more than nerfing dmg/supply. Fungal is toooo boring.
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
November 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#18
can you smell what the rock is cooking?

tbh kinda of expected but glad to see that they arent just blind to the communitie's concerns
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 17:25:48
November 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#19
On November 12 2012 02:19 SiguR wrote:
What a succinct and honest statement. I'm sad that the world championships might get fucked over because of the balance, but as long as we're constantly moving towards a better game, I'm happy.

It's a little late for that anyway.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
November 11 2012 17:26 GMT
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