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KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 10 2012 07:02 GMT
#9
/Obs - Heading off to grad school in a few days so won't have time to play another game for a little bit - but I would like to watch.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 17 2012 16:59 GMT
#69
/in- and obviously I am not obsing any more! I can meet all deadlines for this game..
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 17 2012 19:17 GMT
#76
I am very touched - in all the wrong places.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 18 2012 06:20 GMT
#107
/o all. I am not awake during the lynch - I am EU time zone like rethos. I can be pretty active until saturday - but then I am flying to grad school so assuming I am still alive and the game is still going then - my posting might drop off abit for a few days while I get things sorted out there (will still post & meet deadlines I just might post less during the day for a bit).

I am in favour of lynching a player who is playing scummy on d1 - lurking is playing like scum. Last game we lynched cubu and it didn't turn out great - Cubu please participate more in this thread and make sure you are not looking lurky! - I know others have mentioned it already, but I think all of us who played last game would agree.

Other than that - Kush please stop going on about how you don't want to die, petulance doesn't help town.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#143
I don't understand the point of FoS'ing on day 1 - no-one has a huge list of strong scum reads and you can change your vote at any time. If you think someone is scum then you should vote for them, if you are not sure or looking to pressure than a vote is also a much better way to do that than a FOS which at best is just going to cause scum to play more carefully.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 18 2012 16:56 GMT
#150
Thrawn - I don't think it is a major point, it is a short post - if someone thinks that FOS's are valuable day one, then please tell me why. I thought the discussions about Sonic's "survey" and Thrawns " lynch question" were dumb, which were the main things in the thread at that time.

I think the other things that are on this page are more worth discussing though:

I agree that Kush's statements about not wanting to die were dumb and anti-town. I haven't voted him yet though because a) I think the serial killer case, while I can follow the logic, is a huge overreach when we don't even know whether we have a serial killer. It would be equally plausible to argue that kush was trying to attract attention to himself with that kind of remark. b) Kush made a significant number of dumb comments at the start of XXVI and turned out to be town. That doesn't excuse these comments, but they are not enough on their own to make me think he is scum.

I like sonic's last post on Debears though - For now my feeling is that Debears is mafia trying to blend into the thread. Debears who do you think is scum?

For now:
##Vote:debears
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 18 2012 19:36 GMT
#181
I am writing a post.. but every-time I refresh this page someone has posted something new. Just to address FOS's first and I will post the rest in a bit.

When I said that I don't think FOS is useful, I thought I made it clear that I thought voting WAS useful (which is why I have done it.) but that I don't see what FOS'ing adds above voting - if you think someone is acting scummy, it is not bad play to vote for them, rather than FOS - if you want to ask questions of someone, you don't need this meaningless phrase to do it. So I would like to see people expressing their suspicions with votes not FOS's.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 04:58 GMT
#255
I just woke up - yeah I meant to post more last night but couldn't for irl reasons. Sorry I know that looked bad.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 06:07 GMT
#259
Ok - well I think the best thing for me to do Is go through the questions drazak asked me last night:

Players I want to see more from - There are lots of players in this category:
1. RemedySC - Not much interesting in his posts, nothing scummy but nothing strong
2. Drazak - Again, he made fair points about me and I am answering his questions - he has said he will also try to post more today. If there is one thing that I learnt from XXVI it is that associational cases are bad though. So leave off this how is he connected to X&Y on D1.
3. Stutters
4.Cubu!!! - I am quite happy to policy lynch cubu every game I play with him if he is not posting more. Cubu post more or I will vote for you.

Two strongest town reads: (though town reads are kind of dubious atm, because strong mafia probably look like town now -d1 we are more trying to catch a weaker mafia I think)
1. Thrawn - I don't put much stock in the idea that him & Debears are necessarily linked in some way - but his posting has been strong all day
2. Sonic - Solid town posts, less high up for me though, just because I have the experience of playing with him in XXVI and know he is a strong player who fooled me for large parts of that game.

When I went to bed, I thought Sharrant was towny - he was following the same train of logic that I did and he was . Now I just don't know - others have totally fought with him on asking debears to roleclaim and that was a bad idea, I don't think he is a good d1 lynch, there is too much chance he flips bad town, but he is definitely a player I want to look at more closely as the game progresses

And the most important part - scum:
1.Debears - my scum read on him from yesterday has not changed that much, his hugely defensive posting since then is a bad, and I agree with Kush's attack on his last post. I sort of like that he is attacking rethos - but rethos is an easy target, a lurker who has only posted questions so far. I await to see what he has to say about Sharrant.
2.Atreidies - 3 posts, all bad , random setup speculation. You can pretty much sum up everything he has said so far as "I'm not convinced" - That is not at all scummy per se - but you need to combine that attitude with efforts to scumhunt yourself and contribute actively. Because he hasn't, it looks scummy to me.

KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 13:41 GMT
#281
I don't think "having assignments due" makes Cubu any less scummy. Last game we gave a pass D1/2 to weetee who had to get replaced and let Xatalos off the hook because he was at the army - they were still scum and that was a mistake.

As
far as "My" case (not really "my" case - but my vote) on Debears goes I still prefer him slightly over sharrant. see Debears as more scummy than sharrant because he led with stupid play and then tried to explain it away, whereas on my reading the Sharrant case seems more "bad towny" than a strong scum read, he started trying to help town and then made a dumb mistake.


also why are so many people already voting sharron? His play is really stupid with the roleclaim call, but stupid play doesn't make you mafia. you think first time mafia would really be so confidently retarded like that?

Isn't sharron's roleclaim call as stupid as my defense of thrawn early on? You could make the same argument for me.

So for me it is kind of similar - but yours looks worse. That said, this game still has too many lurkers - I am not sure at the moment whether debears is strong enough to justify not shooting one of them, hopefully I won't need to make that decision because they will all come in with plenty of useful posts (fat chance).

KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 15:30 GMT
#303
I am here at the moment (around for a half hour or so) - if you want to ask me anything then you can. Other than the fact I was away last night (and therefore "lurky" to you) - why else do you think I am scum?
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 15:44 GMT
#309
If my filter link on the front page isn't working (I think someone mentioned this before?) - just look for any one of my posts and there should be a little filter button in the top right that will work the same way.
Mods can you fix my filter link on the first page?
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 16:40 GMT
#328
I'm going out to dinner. I will happily support a lurker lynch. Stutters or Cubu - both should know better from XXVI. Not commenting on Sharrant atm until I have thought about his new posts more.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#376
I want to make some amazing read on Sharrant going back through his whole filter and checking out the case on him - therby assuaging thrawn & those who seem to think I am a lurking scum But sorry I just can't make head or tail of his postings today. I don't understand his post from either a mafia or a town perspective - this makes me think he is a bad townie, because if he was mafia he would have had two others telling him how to diffuse this situation.

My own observations about stutters were nearly a disaster last game, perhaps as a result I have been too cautious d1. I will do better tomorrow and try to find a strong target.

The lynch I feel best about is Cubu, for reasons that anyone who played/reads the last game should be clear on, even if he is town again (hard to tell), we are going to go into D2 in a stronger position with him gone & I feel it is even scummier that he is not here this game when he got lynched as town for the same behaviour last game. It seems like debears has not been scummy enough since the inital post for others to have a strong feeling he is scum & am not confident enough in the case against Sharrant to vote for him.

I'll be around for like 15-20 mins now, then I have to go.

##unvote debears
##vote Cubu
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 21:25 GMT
#384
Ok I only skimmed the last page and managed to miss that roleclaim bfore my last post. Obvious follow up question to Sharrant then -I assume you discussed this roleclaim idea with your mason partner? why did your partner not tell you to drop this dumb roleclaim idea and explain to you how the game worked, or did you confuse them too?
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 21:35 GMT
#390
yeah he did claim, also - nvm Starrant about my question, I retract it. (because I worked out all the possible answers and none help town)
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 21:49 GMT
#400
..... can't decide if you are seriously trolling us now or what. (btw I was pretty sure it was Atreides for obvious reasons.)
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#407
1. I need to go to bed
2. We don't have a medic as I just checked and it is not one of the possible roles in this game in the FP. Assuming we have a jailkeeper on d1 is not a safe assumption imho.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 22:19 GMT
#417
I need to go to bed. I can't process this stuff properly right now. Back to basics = hunting scum - so I am going back to voting my strongest scumread before all this nonsense - which was debears. I think that puts him and cubu on 2 votes each. You guys who are awake get to decide who to lynch I guess.

##unvote
##vote debears

KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 20 2012 07:15 GMT
#520
I obviously know that lynching me would have been a mislynch aswell. For me, I left the thread with 2 votes on debears, and several people who had previously felt that he looked scummy... and instead drazak got lynched. Herp derp - before I think too much about the endgame hour though I think we need to sort out this cubu/sharrant mason thing asap given that some are still not convinced. Obviously Cubu is not going to help.
Is it allowed to ask Sharrant to post a link to the mason quicktopic to prove his claim?
I am asking the mods first because I feel like it might not be, but it wasn't clear in the rules (it says you can post your role pm and the sample role pm makes no mention of not being able to post the quicktopic link to the thread if you choose)
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