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Hey! So basically, we're going to be putting a GTX 560 TI and a 550W Power supply in our Phenom II 1035t 2.6 Ghz x6 system and I was wondering at what settings will it be able to run smoothly?
My understanding is that it will be bottlenecked slightly by the 2.6 ghz cores but not enough to warrant buying a motherboard and an i5 processor instead of upgrading the graphics card from a GT 430 to a GTX 560 TI, but I was hoping to get a confirmation on the kind of settings the 560 TI will allow the phenom to run at?
Right now I've got a 2.4 ghz dual core and On-board graphics so I struggle at mininum! haha 
P.S: I'm excited for using my other 3-4 cores for streaming! haha ^_^
EDIT: It would cost £200 more to buy a new PC equipped with 3rd generation i5. Worth the performance boost or would the phenom along with the 560 TI be able to handle well enough to be worth the £200 savings?
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UPDATE!
Was able to overclock the phenom II with the new motherboard and we have it running at 3.2 ghz right now so thats a NICE true 6 core processor
<3 and the 7850 I'm going to clock up to 7870 level, probably plug my HD TV into my PC haha :D Got it all with an arctic freezer and in a sick Sharkoon case.
Really happy with my new gaming machine
Thanks a bunch guys
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you should be able to run ultra just fine. dont expect to be able to run high graphics whilst streaming though. I have the same processor and I stream smooth 720p with medium graphics, assuming your internet is good enough. IMO wait for haswell if you want to upgrade your cpu but for now you should be fine.
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Thanks!
Yeah I've got 10 mb upload so my internet is fine
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awesome man i have a gt 430 and im gonna buy myself a gtx 560ti at xmas , after hots comes out
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If you can overclock your processor, it will be quite decent at 3.8-4.0 gHz.
At stock, meh at best. You might be able to get ~60fps on medium I'd guess.
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why's everyone buying 560Ti now, almost 2 years after its release ;].
get GTX660 ?
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On June 05 2012 21:49 Rollin wrote:
If you can overclock your processor, it will be quite decent at 3.8-4.0 gHz.
At stock, meh at best. You might be able to get ~60fps on medium I'd guess.
You can't overclock the 2.6 ghz 1035t. Can't even change the clocking rate since my motherboard is so bad.
Are you saying this is a bad idea then? And the graphics card isnt the best way to spend my budget?
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On June 05 2012 23:16 EneMecH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 21:49 Rollin wrote:
If you can overclock your processor, it will be quite decent at 3.8-4.0 gHz.
At stock, meh at best. You might be able to get ~60fps on medium I'd guess. You can't overclock the 2.6 ghz 1035t. Can't even change the clocking rate since my motherboard is so bad. Are you saying this is a bad idea then? And the graphics card isnt the best way to spend my budget?
I would assume a gpu would be one of the last things you would wanna upgrade, im kind of in your same predicament, i got a 1045t thuban phenom 2 at like 2.8 that i cant OC because my motherboard is a shitty foxconn that i would probably need to replace soon, i already have a hyper 212+ heatsink that is idle. But u kind of need a new heatsink to even think about OC without making your core/ motherboard unstable with heat issues, also upgrading to the hyper 212+ u need to take into consideration about proper heatsinks on your mobo and which way your hot and cold is going in your case concerning ventilation. Im looking into upgrading from my shitty HPE-500f case along with my motherboard so i can actually use my hyper 212+ because my case is kinda tiny.
Im also looking for a full tower for better ventilation and easy upgrading the slots for sticking psu cords behind the mobo, but don't take me for granted i am only like 2 or 3 years in of upgrading pc knowledge i would suggest this link if u want expert and better help concerning your problem and what u want to do to better your pc overall!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554
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On June 05 2012 23:16 EneMecH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 21:49 Rollin wrote:
If you can overclock your processor, it will be quite decent at 3.8-4.0 gHz.
At stock, meh at best. You might be able to get ~60fps on medium I'd guess. You can't overclock the 2.6 ghz 1035t. Can't even change the clocking rate since my motherboard is so bad. Are you saying this is a bad idea then? And the graphics card isn't the best way to spend my budget?
Whether or not you decide to upgrade the CPU later, you can get the Graphics Card upgrade anyway since that can be carried over.
FYI, a 560ti is more than necessary for SC2 Ultra graphics settings at 1080p. A GTX 560 could do it, and so could a GTX 460 (this is regardless of the CPU; with a 1035T, you'll have to keep CPU settings like Physics on low/medium, so yes the CPU is a significant limiting factor for SC2 frame rates and some settings). Just saying in case you want to save money. 560ti will help with higher settings and/or frame rates in pretty much all other games though. SC2 is an uncommon CPU-intensive game.
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You can replace an AM3 motherboard for like 80$ and get one that is overclockable. That might be a decent investment to really get good performance. The 430 was probably bottlenecking you anyway though.
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Well guys, thanks for your input.
I think I'm going to sell my ps3 and games and wait longer and try to get a PC from scratch with an i5 3450 and a GTX 560 TI
What do you think? If it's possible to get an overclockable system for not much more, might go with the 2500k and the Radeon 7850 instead <3 Otherwise I'll enjoy beasting along in games with the unclocked system we got in mind.
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i have a 1055t at 3.6 and a hd5770. runs sc2 at ultra at 60 fps
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Hello OP,
Depending on whether you want to be streaming, your CPU will not be so relevant for gaming. Gaming is primarily GPU dependent, making it semi redundant for a good gaming pc. Any modern CPU will run SC2 well.
Good luck!
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On June 06 2012 02:58 meelmutsTL wrote:
Hello OP,
Depending on whether you want to be streaming, your CPU will not be so relevant for gaming. Gaming is primarily GPU dependent, making it semi redundant for a good gaming pc. Any modern CPU will run SC2 well.
Good luck!
You're wrong, sc2 is heavily CPU dependent. When you hit later stages of a game, it will start feeling more sluggish than it would at the beginning.
Forgot to mention that it usually depends on what race you play, if you're zerg, you will have a lot of units in your vision range the entire time and the game will have to keep the models of the lings there until they die or the game ends, and this builds up over time, especially if you're playing on high settings.
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Not every processor is heat limited. You should test out overclocking before buying a new heatsink, as the overwhelming majority of motherboard blow-ups occur because people change from stock heatsinks to tower heatsinks. Motherboards are rated for stock, radial heatsinks that apply cooling to not just the CPU, but the whole board, while tower heatsinks ONLY cool the CPU, so you will get a rise (often deadly rise) in the CPU NB, RAM, and most importantly, the VRM.
I have a GTX 460, 4GB RAM, and Athlon II X3 3.2ghz (overclocked/unlocked to x4 3.4 ghz). I'm able to stream medium graphics SC2 just fine (check my recordings at justin.tv/belial88), and I could probably stream ultra but just haven't tested that yet. I can play on Ultra settings just fine as well. My resolution is 1280x768.
sc2 is cpu dependent, but the graphics are gpu dependent. As in, it's mostly your GPU that determines if your system that can play on medium, can play on Ultra. But CPU allows an increase in fps no matter what graphics setting you are at, as sc2 is extremely cpu dependent. Put simply, SC2 is very cpu dependent and always appreciates more processing, but things like shaders, lighting, texturing... that's all done by the GPU.
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On June 06 2012 02:25 EneMecH wrote:Well guys, thanks for your input. I think I'm going to sell my ps3 and games and wait longer and try to get a PC from scratch with an i5 3450 and a GTX 560 TI What do you think? If it's possible to get an overclockable system for not much more, might go with the 2500k and the Radeon 7850 instead <3 Otherwise I'll enjoy beasting along in games with the unclocked system we got in mind.
I'm not sure why you'd wait on purchasing the graphics card if you have the money now and want to play games at higher settings / frame rates. It can easily be moved into the new build.
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On June 05 2012 23:13 Nancial wrote:
why's everyone buying 560Ti now, almost 2 years after its release ;].
get GTX660 ?
The 660 is costs nearly twice a much as the 560Ti, and the 560Ti is probably one of the best budget gpu's still.
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On June 06 2012 05:58 deathtrance wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 23:13 Nancial wrote:
why's everyone buying 560Ti now, almost 2 years after its release ;].
get GTX660 ? The 660 is costs nearly twice a much as the 560Ti, and the 560Ti is probably one of the best budget gpu's still.
doesnt the 6870 cost less and yield around the same performance?
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On June 06 2012 09:59 Zushen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 05:58 deathtrance wrote:On June 05 2012 23:13 Nancial wrote:
why's everyone buying 560Ti now, almost 2 years after its release ;].
get GTX660 ? The 660 is costs nearly twice a much as the 560Ti, and the 560Ti is probably one of the best budget gpu's still. doesnt the 6870 cost less and yield around the same performance?
The 560 is similar in performance to the 6870. The 560ti is closer to the 6950, and when both are overclocked (560ti overclocks a little better), they're basically the same performance tier.
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Hey everyone!
Right now we're having the PC installed with a new motherboard, case, PSU, cooler and an AMD Radeon 7850
We're going to bus clock it as much as we can and im looking forward to gaming on the system with the 7850.
When the piledriver comes out in the future, we'll be replacing the Phenom II.
Until then, I think that this was the best build for upgrading the PC, do you agree? Since we are sticking with the same processor, we decided to spend the small amount extra on the 7850 over the gtx 560 TI and it should handle sc2 great and at lower temps especially on my 1368x760 or something monitor
Thanks for your input everyone
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