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On June 07 2012 03:12 EneMecH wrote:Hey everyone! Right now we're having the PC installed with a new motherboard, case, PSU, cooler and an AMD Radeon 7850  We're going to bus clock it as much as we can and im looking forward to gaming on the system with the 7850. When the piledriver comes out in the future, we'll be replacing the Phenom II. Until then, I think that this was the best build for upgrading the PC, do you agree? Since we are sticking with the same processor, we decided to spend the small amount extra on the 7850 over the gtx 560 TI and it should handle sc2 great and at lower temps especially on my 1368x760 or something monitor Thanks for your input everyone
Sandy/Ivy Bridge blows Bulldozer out of the water in anything that does not use 8 or more threads, and ties with it for anything that does, it would give you MASSIVE performance gains in sc2 (50% gains, probably more in CPU bound situations) and we have no reason to believe that Piledriver will change anything there, if you are looking for a CPU to be released in the nearish future, follow Haswell, not Piledriver, IMO
The story is similar for the vast majority of games out there
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=434&i=27.28.38.39.344.345.53.54.60.61.62.129.337.338.339.340.341.342.343
Some benchmarks between the i7 3770k and fx-8150, The i7 wins all of those (x264 and game benchmarks) but costs a chunk more, for gaming though, you can drop to i5 (which is much closer to bulldozers price and wont lose any performance in low threaded tasks compared to i7)
Piledriver/Haswell relationship should be similar, with Intel dominating, from what i have heard, AMD CPU's just not that good any more, particularly in low threaded enviroments such as almost any game on the market now or in the near future.
The upgrade you did was good, just wanted to comment on that (:
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On June 07 2012 03:12 EneMecH wrote:Hey everyone! Right now we're having the PC installed with a new motherboard, case, PSU, cooler and an AMD Radeon 7850 We're going to bus clock it as much as we can and im looking forward to gaming on the system with the 7850. When the piledriver comes out in the future, we'll be replacing the Phenom II. Until then, I think that this was the best build for upgrading the PC, do you agree? Since we are sticking with the same processor, we decided to spend the small amount extra on the 7850 over the gtx 560 TI and it should handle sc2 great and at lower temps especially on my 1368x760 or something monitor Thanks for your input everyone
A 7850 is way overkill for 1366x768 you should buy a new monitor at at least 1080p
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On June 07 2012 03:52 Zushen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 03:12 EneMecH wrote:Hey everyone! Right now we're having the PC installed with a new motherboard, case, PSU, cooler and an AMD Radeon 7850 We're going to bus clock it as much as we can and im looking forward to gaming on the system with the 7850. When the piledriver comes out in the future, we'll be replacing the Phenom II. Until then, I think that this was the best build for upgrading the PC, do you agree? Since we are sticking with the same processor, we decided to spend the small amount extra on the 7850 over the gtx 560 TI and it should handle sc2 great and at lower temps especially on my 1368x760 or something monitor Thanks for your input everyone A 7850 is way overkill for 1366x768 you should buy a new monitor at at least 1080p
In the end, framerates would probably be pretty much the same in team games or past midgame because CPU cant keep up, even with the ~doubled resolution. Any CPU will do that, just more pronounced effect with weaker ones.
(1366x768, 1.04 million pixels vs 1920x1080, 2.07 million pixels)
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Hey cyro, thanks a lot for your reply and for the PM
I think that the key reasoning behind this upgrade is that it'll make the most out of this processor and give a viable upgrade path for the future when we feel it's necessary, and the 7850 giving a really good GPU that will last better until that point, especially since it has more memory and overclocks much better.
It may not be the best, but I hope that it's justified to be happy with the idea of dropping in a compatible processor when we need to and overclocking it for gaming?
Thanks again for your input so far.
P.S: And I'm going to be purchasing other PC games in the meantime with whatever money I can now haha since I'll be switching to PC gaming,
EDIT: :/ I really do think it would have been better with an i5 but we already did al this and had a motherboard put in for the phenom... I guess I'll save up and try to get the i5 3570k + Mobo whenever I do have the money, as I doubt piledriver will compare
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UPDATE!
Was able to overclock the processor with the new motherboard and we have it running at 3.2 ghz right now so thats a NICE true 6 core processor
<3 and the 7850 I'm going to clock up to 7870 level, probably plug my HD TV into my PC haha :D
Really happy with my new gaming machine
Thanks a bunch guys
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I'm not really that bullish on Piledriver, based on laptop A10-4600M (Trinity) reviews, which show that architecture. I don't think it would be worth upgrading then, so I'm not particularly convinced by the motherboard upgrade.
But anyway, if the computer is working well enough for your purposes, that's good though.
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well im still downloading sc2 patch updates haha but I'm confident overall since my PC is now using all high quality parts, as opposed to the HP mini stock of absolute bottom pieces.
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On June 07 2012 05:54 EneMecH wrote:Hey cyro, thanks a lot for your reply and for the PM I think that the key reasoning behind this upgrade is that it'll make the most out of this processor and give a viable upgrade path for the future when we feel it's necessary, and the 7850 giving a really good GPU that will last better until that point, especially since it has more memory and overclocks much better. It may not be the best, but I hope that it's justified to be happy with the idea of dropping in a compatible processor when we need to and overclocking it for gaming? Thanks again for your input so far. P.S: And I'm going to be purchasing other PC games in the meantime with whatever money I can now haha since I'll be switching to PC gaming, EDIT: :/ I really do think it would have been better with an i5 but we already did al this and had a motherboard put in for the phenom... I guess I'll save up and try to get the i5 3570k + Mobo whenever I do have the money, as I doubt piledriver will compare
dont worry too much about upgrading, your current setup is great, better to wait a year til Haswell which will far outperform ivy bridge, i just meant to say bulldozer is really bad for a lot of stuff in comparison to intel CPU's and piledriver will probably be just as overshadowed by haswell
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Ok man thanks!
new problem with sc2 now though haha
Experiencing crashes with my new 7850 I'll post a thread on it
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