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kitaman27
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On May 25 2012 16:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Also me kita and VE are the templar bros lol Deformed Archon GoGo! | ||
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On May 27 2012 11:20 GreYMisT wrote: I would like to give a big thanks to my friend and fellow Grubby mod "astroorion" for helping me send the PMs I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU! I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself. Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_- Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet. ##Vote Hyaach. You got this. | ||
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kitaman27
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On May 28 2012 01:02 VisceraEyes wrote: "Hey guys no scum candidate is up for elections so I'm gonna put one up now." Do you disagree with my assessment or do you just really want to get elected? :p On May 28 2012 02:03 GambitX32 wrote: @kitaman: elect someone who isn't running? This doesn't make sense to me, would if they are bad at reading people or turn out to be a lurker? Lyncher is likely to run for mayor. Picking someone who isn't running reduces the odds of electing a lyncher. It doesn't really matter if we elect a lurker or less skilled player as long as they are town. Mayor isn't really a town leader in this setup without the bodyguards. On May 28 2012 02:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: rofl kita aren't you copying foolishness with that one? Lies. Foolishness put much more effort in endorsing his candidate. On May 28 2012 02:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Lastly, Kitaman, I don't think anyone's going to take your suggestion seriously. However, I'm interested, why did you choose Hyaach? What made you want to suggest him as the random mayor? Because he is a newer player and I want to hear more from him. Do you agree that it is more likely that a lyncher will be running for mayor? Lets lynch meeple. | ||
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As much as I'd like to see a town role elected, we can't automatically assume toad is town. | ||
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Toad is our pardoner. It's the best of both worlds. It ensures we don't have a scum pardoner, which is the more dangerous of the two roles and it protects us from a mayor lyncher. If you're town toad, then great we denied the role. If not, then we don't really care if you would prefer mayor. | ||
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On May 28 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Why would Kitaman care about keeping the Leader position out of the hands of the Lyncher? -_- On May 28 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: My point is, this is the sole purpose of Kita's post endorsing "someone random". By that logic also, it seems Kitaman isn't concerned about electing a TOWNIE into the position, it seems his only inspiration is to "avoid electing the Lyncher". lol I random voted Hyaach with the hope that he would post. I still feel its optimal to elect someone who didn't declare their candidacy in the first 24 hours, but Hyaach doesn't have nearly enough posts to warrent being elected. I'll have to decide tomorrow between the candidates. You mentioned earlier that I'm not interested in being elected, which is untrue. I would be perfectly content with being mayor. On May 28 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Again...something I found odd was Kita's insistence that we end discussion on the topic of Toad being elected Vice Leader. First of all, if anything was distracting it was whether the role is useless or not. But that's not the point that Kitaman chose to end on...he wanted the discussion of who is Vice-Leader to be over, and he wanted the conclusion to be that Toad is elected. Odd or scummy? I'm not sure what is so strange to you. Toad role claims mason, which means he is either a lyncher or a mason. Therefore, we elect him as pardoner where he can do no harm and benefit town by denying the role that shortens the game by one cycle. Seems like a completely reasonable conclusion to me. Do you disagree that Toad should be elected? On May 28 2012 15:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah VE I'd be down for a sinensis lynch. If we went for him I'd write up a proper analysis and shit but I think it's fairly obvious from the past several pages why he has to go. Humor us? Too tired to re-read the thread tonight. Tomorrow I'll have to give my thoughts about the lynch. | ||
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On May 28 2012 15:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm watching KHAN v STX (KHAN HWAITING), <3 <3 <3 On May 28 2012 15:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes Kita, I vehemently disagree with electing Toad to do anything...not that you.care since you're leaving... I'm going to bed so you can't explain your reasoning for not wanting the claimed mason elected as pardoner? I'll do you a favor and stick around a bit longer (not really) so you can tell us why. | ||
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On May 28 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote: You're a gracious lord Kita. I'm not interested in electing a pardoner who could be convinced in PMs by some unsavory influence to affect a lynch I had a hand in voting for. Period. His mason claim made it really simple for me. Say Nope To Dope. And Toad. On May 28 2012 07:11 Toadesstern wrote: If I get pardoner I will NEVER EVER use it. Simple as that and there's no need to talk about this because every townie should treat it as that, unless maybe you're getting lynched yourself. So no manipulation there either. Either A) Toad is a mafia who fake claimed mason to get elected and procede to get lynched day two. B) Toad is not mafia and a compuslive liar who can't help himself. Which is the scenario that you're backing VE? Your reasoning is completely inadquate. We've been given the opportunity to elect a non-scum into office and you have openly oppossed the idea. Between the two of us, it must be tough to say that I'm the scummiest with a straight face. | ||
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On May 28 2012 16:04 VisceraEyes wrote: C) Toad has claimed mason-who-talks-to-non-mod-confirmed-town-outside-the-thread and I don't want mason-who-talks-to-non-mod-confirmed-town-outside-the-thread in office. I want a townie in office, but not Toad...Toad is one of many many townies in the game Kita. But how many players can we be so certain isn't scum? You act as if toad is a completely incompetant who will certainly be tricked into going against his word to pardon a scum player. A town player who is given the opportunity to elect a player who isn't scum jumps on it. They don't discredit their ability and risk electing a mafia pardoner. On May 28 2012 16:08 Blazinghand wrote: I find Kitaman to be utterly inscrutable. At the time he voted for Hyaach, Hyaach's sole contribution to the game was an attempt to NOT vote for the mayor. Since then, he has successfully stated that he plans to placeholder-vote, and that... he hasn't caught up in the thread. I can't possibly imagine any town motivation for pushing Hyaach for mayor. RnGing a mayor candidate, or, as Kita seems to have done, voted Hyaach... to presure him? lol Hyaach was mentioned in passing hours into the game. Is that really what you guys are going to jump on? :p He really does need to post though -_- On May 28 2012 16:08 Blazinghand wrote: Also apparently Kita is down with being mayor but hasn't voted himself or presented a candidacy. Now, I've seen some weird, weird play out of Kita in my day. But this really takes the cake. Spamming up the thread with why I'm so great and how I'm going to be active and open doesn't really do much for the game. (I am great by the way) On May 28 2012 16:08 Blazinghand wrote: He's mostly afraid of the lyncher, and quite notably NEVER mentions wiggles anywhere in his filter, except to answer a direct question, and once in passing about the Pardoner. Why doesn't he want to interact with one of the main mayoral candidates? Wiggles has made some valid points, but nothing that tells me about his alignment. The length of his posts tells me that he is putting effort into appearing town (I should probably work on that too), but again that doesn't say much about his alignment. When asked about lynch candidates, he only references toad, who clearly isn't going to be lynched tomorrow, so I don't have much to say about him until he comes up with a real target. On May 28 2012 16:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: + Show Spoiler [PL] + STORKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU GOGOGOOG KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN :D Can I switch my random vote to Meapak? Dang it VE, you cost me an hour of sleep. | ||
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On May 28 2012 16:31 Blazinghand wrote: "mentioned in passing"? you voted him >.> That's like saying that I met a girl when in fact we've been married for 5 years Naw, I didn't actually vote for him. (Not that it matters). Pretty sure I've random voted in about 80% of my games and changed once there is content in the thread. Is this suddenly scummy? | ||
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On May 28 2012 16:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol wrong thread  On May 10 2012 01:40 GreYMisT wrote:Spam: Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here.  | ||
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On May 28 2012 16:37 Blazinghand wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2012 16:35 kitaman27 wrote: Naw, I didn't actually vote for him. (Not that it matters). Pretty sure I've random voted in about 80% of my games and changed once there is content in the thread. Is this suddenly scummy? On May 28 2012 00:52 kitaman27 wrote: I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU! I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself. Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_- Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet. ##Vote Hyaach. You got this. ???? As in, a serious vote in the voting thread. | ||
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On May 28 2012 16:40 VisceraEyes wrote: You're free to go anytime my guy. I just have a couple of quick comments. First, the bolded statement. Again, you're subtly brushing against the fact that you think I'm scum. Just come out and say it, you don't have to be scared Kita. I'm not going to go apeshit and cry OMGUS, you just better have a good explanation for why me having a preference as to who gets what elected position makes me automatically scum when we get votes specifically to indicate our preference on the matter as a mechanic in the very game. I'm just arguing for what's best for town. Either you are scum or you are wrong. I won't make bold statements and say that you just claimed scum, but you're not seeing what I'm seeing, which I find scummy. On May 28 2012 16:40 VisceraEyes wrote: My question is why in the hell are you so fixated with protecting town from the Lyncher? Again, this was in my original case against you and you're failing to recognize it as a functional aspect of my argument. It's a possible role in the game sure, but do you know the full aspects of the role? Is it the Lyncher's target definitely a townie? And here's some food for thought: Toadesstern has very explicitly stated that he will NOT be using the pardoner power if elected. You know who that kinda sounds like? A lyncher. I mean yeah he claimed Mason and everything, but if you're so fixated on protecting us from the lyncher you'd risk putting someone like Toad who has very explicitly stated that he will "never use the power ever"? I think a lyncher's target is most likely town yes. From a balancing perspective, it seems harsh that a third party player was given the objective to target a mafia player for death. I'm not sure what you are saying in the second part. I'm interested in protecting the mayor position from the lyncher (and scum) because, well, they lynch their target who is likely town. It's in the lyncher pardoner's best interest to not use the pardoner role, which also happens to be the ideal use for town. Is this not the case? On May 28 2012 16:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Thirdly, sleep well scummy prince. See you in my dreams.  | ||
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On May 29 2012 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Wiggles, I'd like you to seriously SERIOUSLY consider lynching Toadesstern today...at the very least tell me what you think of the guy as completely and honestly as possible. I'm going to do the same right now. Right, lets lynch the player who has the ability to confirm his role (or implicate a scumbuddy) on night one. On May 28 2012 17:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Here's the part that really gets me about Kita's whole Lyncher fixation: it's entirely based on one huge contradiction. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Allow me to illustrate. Kita's reasoning for his Lyncher fixation, I believe, is to protect that one "townie target" from the lynch to extend the game exactly 1 cycle. Don't even worry about the fact that the Lyncher has no direct control over the lynch, because that's not the point. The point is to protect that one "townie target" from the lynch to extend the game exactly 1 cycle Kita's insisting that Toad be voted for Vice Leader of Earth on the platform of "soon I'll be 'confirmed' * Mason and I'll never ever use the power". By his estimation and repeated (ad nauseum?) insistence, it's in town's best interest to never use the pardoner power. But, by definition, the pardoner power extends the game exactly 1 cycle ....see where I'm going with this? His philosophies are completely contradictory! You can't be serious. The pardoner power doesn't extend the game in a pro-town fashion. It cancels out the town lynch, the mafia gets a round of night hits, and we likely lynch the same exact player the next day after wasting a night of discussion about whether or not the pardoner is scum. The pardoner is the equivalent to a public Prince of Darkness. Are you really trying to argue that is not in town's best interest to deny this role? You act is this is some groundbreaking scummy idea. It's been the policy in nearly ever game I've ever played. On May 28 2012 14:52 VisceraEyes wrote: YAY WE CAME TO THE EXACT SAME CONCLUSION INDEPENDENTLY! On May 28 2012 16:50 VisceraEyes wrote: MZ this shit is gold are you getting all this? On May 28 2012 17:12 VisceraEyes wrote: MZ I want your opinion: obviously in an ideal situation the town comes to a consensus on a lynch and there are no problems. But is it really in town's best interest to never use the pardoner power? On May 28 2012 17:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Once again we find ourselves in complete agreement. Buddy, buddy, buddy? In regards to Sinensis being considered for the lynch, sure focusing all his attention on a policy lynch is poor play, but is it scummy? It seems somewhat out of character for a scum player to start the game off pushing a policy that is going to be frowned upon, rather than just posting some setup speculation, jumping on a random mayoral candidate, and calling out a scummy townie. I could get behind a strongandbig lynch. His reasoning for running for pardoner was silly and then he drops out of the mayor race to avoid the spotlight. His case against supersoft seems forced. VE should also be considered. I'd like to hear Wiggles and ET's opinion on his his agenda thus far. I'd really like to hear Manason's opinion about who should be lynched. If he doesn't give his opinion, he should be considered. | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:58 supersoft wrote: What happened to kitaman? why isn't he running? can we vig him for that or is that his new townstyle? On May 30 2012 03:59 Toadesstern wrote: If you want to vig someone shoot Kita or hold your fire for today. On May 29 2012 23:07 Toadesstern wrote: Kita sounds like a nice vig target for toda On May 30 2012 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Superstar have you even looked at Kita? I think he's a better vigi target than either of wiggle or MZ if we are talking about vigging vets all of a sudden. Have any of you people even read the thread or do you all just enjoy bringing up name up as the flavor of the day? A vig shot or even considering me for a lynch would be a horrible idea. I was one of the only people to openly defend Sinensis, giving specific reasons why I believed him to be townie. I provided alternatives and was ignored. I was the only person who attempted to get the claimed mason into office. Am I missing something? On May 30 2012 03:59 VisceraEyes wrote: ¿Kita what do you think of Zealos sir? ¡I'll respond in a bit! | ||
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