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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
I have not played any forum Mafia games before, neither on TL nor on other sites. I have however played Mafia IRL to some degree, and I am closely following the Aperture Mafia thread on this forum, which is really awesome. Good Luck and Have Fun everybody! | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
If it starts tonight, I'll probably start posting tomorrow morning. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
On March 30 2012 20:45 marvellosity wrote: Did you decide whether you were going to expand the game by 2-4 players? If he expands the game, he'll probably update the OP accordingly. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
It is good for them when the thread is like this, but I believe the goal for mafia is a broader one: To make the posts with actual reads or cases less visible. This can be accomplished through simply boring town out of reading the thread, but it can also be through lowering the overall signal-to-noise ratio. If one serious post of a competent player making a case is buried under ten posts of "jokes, references to StarCraft, memes and word play", fewer people will pay attention to it than in an overall serious discussion. This does NOT mean that you should lurk until you have gathered enough evidence to accuse someone of being scum, because that is not something we want on Day 1. However, it means that after the early game when there is enough material in the thread to seriously analyse, off-topic discussion, joking and the like helps scum rather than it hurts them. So by all means, post away on Day 1, but let's get more into "real" game play after that. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
Also, I have a suspicion that FourFace and Kohbee are going to want to lynch one another soon oO | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
gl hf and gg guys | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
First, Radfield dies, then he somehow manages to post in the thread. But not only that, he also misstates something from his own OP. Conclusion: That's not Radfield, that's an impostor! We can however not vote for him because he's officially dead, and you can't vote for dead people, as per the OP. So that's where we are now: Our host is dead, and an impostor roams free, and that's not even including the scum within our game. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
Anyway, back to in-character posting. | ||
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Austria463 Posts
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I will not accept any arguments from you, impostor! And what did you do with Radfield? | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
On April 01 2012 00:50 marvellosity wrote: 6 pages in and all we've managed so far is joviality and sarcasm. This bodes well. The problem here is that it's pretty hard to identify scum when there's not a single action that has been taken yet. The only chance we have right now is suspecting people based on their posting behaviour (lurking). But even this is not very reliable. After the first night it looks a bit different because people can now analyse both the night actions and each other's posting, so this is where the game really picks up. I was following the Aperture Mafia game pretty closely from the start, and the way they "solved" this problem was a random vigshot that happened 19 minutes after the first daypost. Drazerk claimed the kill and suddenly the discussion was all over the place, giving everybody tons of leads. But without some kind of Day 1 events that could happen, I think there can't really be much substance to our posts until then, except meta-analysis like this that is ultimately useless to the game. Still, people should try to at post something so as not to be identified as lurkers. Remember: More activity also means more possibility for slip-ups by scum players. And if those scum players don't want to risk such a slip, they attract attention for lurking. That's me done for this rant, make of it what you will. [Disclaimer: Bear in mind that this is the first forum Mafia game in which I actively participate. The point I'm trying to make here stems from my considerations, not from actual play experience.] On April 01 2012 01:30 HiroPro wrote: Is there a reason that you feel the need to adopt a character? You wouldn't be trying to hide something, would you? I originally wanted to role-play at least a little bit, especially on day one. In that sense, in-character posting is considered arguing with the other players and weaving some flavour into my posts (see my glhfgg Post with the "HELP!"). Adressing the moderator directly and talking about the edit timestamp on the OP is something I would consider at least slightly out-of-character =P So that's where that comes from. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
And yes you can call me KB if you want to. Also sorry for screwing up with my posts earlier >_> I hope to redeem myself with actual town play later. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:38 Kohbee wrote: I don't like your plan because IMO none of your traits can be assigned to an alignment. I answered in spoilers each trait. I don't want to go in what we should actually be looking for or you'll try to lynch me for giving newbie advice when not asked for. You were my second scum team member. Thanks for confirming with me I like how you had two scum suspects before the first day is half over. Someone is being really "productive" here. ^^ I also want to talk a little bit about FourFace's list of traits to watch: I'd say the traits CAN tell something about alignment, but 1) only if they are intelligently analysed and 2) there is no rule which binds alignment to any of them in a straightforward fashion. So if someone has a super short reaction time to accusations, it says nothing about whether he's scum or not, it just says he keeps F5ing the thread like a maniac. But if that person then goes really quiet after a specific FoS post against him and eventually posts something that isn't a super elaborate defense, THEN you can get really suspicious/start a bandwagon. It's all a matter of how the individual factors play together. I think decoupling them and giving everyone the job to look after a specific trait for each player is counterproductive in that situation. But that does not mean that you shouldn't look for scumtells by actually keeping a close eye on how any player posts, just do it intelligently please. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
So no, I don't think this strategy will be very effective. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
I am however quite cautious in what possibilities we give scum to exploit us, and I really think "trait reports" by every player would help them more than us so I advise against it. I do however strongly advise for everybody to make up their own opinions about other players and who looks the most scummy to them. But don't tell everybody right away, because that starts bandwagoning and allows scum to bias the views of the town. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
On April 01 2012 03:30 FourFace wrote: To find out who's the right guy for which job I'd like to ask a couple of questions first: What do you prefer playing: town or scum and why? I personally like town more, because I am in this game for the thrill of the unknown, and finding out who the scum actually are is the most rewarding feeling in this game for me, even more so than deceiving the town players into lynching each other as scum. What role would you like to be in this setup and why? I would quite like to see a Paranoid Gun Owner (killing everyone visiting him) in this setup, because the role is quite easy to understand (this is a newbie game after all) and introduces little additional decision making complexity, yet can manage to turn the game around quite drastically. This can make it a quite fun role to have around, because it can make for unexpected turns of events. On April 01 2012 05:13 FourFace wrote: Have you ever seen this policy implemented before? I haven't and I thought to myself it would at least make everyone feel as if they are useful while being useful.. to me. No, I actually haven't, but I believe there is a reason why people don't bring it up, as I elaboated earlier. This is all I have seen in your posts so far that has question marks; if I have missed something, feel free to remind me. | ||
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