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(Nevermind my doubts, seems like others without prior games are also participating!) | ||
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 So it's required to post at least once every 48+24=72 hours? I hope this game will be active, but that I won't be decided guilty while I'm asleep or something like that  | ||
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On March 21 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote: hi I'm vanilla town Wasn't Petyr supposed to be a neutral party...? Anyways, glad the game started I hope the first day lynch won't be just a random lynch, like it usually is in the SC2 Mafia mod. At least here we have more time to "read" players and everyone has to post! | ||
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On March 21 2012 17:30 evantrees wrote: Lynch the Liar! Where other men wield swords, he prefers the dagger. Bugs are you going to be killing people on us or do you get to do something more amusing? Haha Petyr can't be lynched though... We'll just have to wait and see what he's going to do. It would be more productive to focus on finding out the Mafia players, since we can't do anything about Petyr, even if his win condition is to kill everyone else or something like that... | ||
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From my experience in SC2 Mafia, random lynchers were usually Mafia (trying to get townies killed) or trolls. However, since I guess the skill level here is a bit higher, you might be just trying to reveal Mafia players by forcing them on the defensive. In any case: if my previous experiences have any value, chaoser and risk.nuke have a higher chance of being Mafia than town. (At least we now get to see some interesting reactions, I hope! Acrofales had a quite interesting reaction, too, although it doesn't necessarily mean Mafia yet... Some people haven't said anything at all yet, and I can't wait to see what they say. At this rate there will be a huge amount of data to base lynch votes on ) | ||
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But with these rules, I don't think chaoser and risk.nuke are necessarily Mafia - it's very possible they are just aggressive town players (or trolls). risk.nuke's post at least seems more like a troll than a real accusation. Hmm.. Maybe I should also random vote. Several people are still lurking, so it would seem sensible to put the pressure on them Too bad Petyr is such a mystery, but seems like Mafia is the only possible target at this point. | ||
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On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote: Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party? We don't know his win condition, and we can't do anything to him, so I guess it would be best just to completely ignore him? The more he trolls the game, the easier time Mafia will have. The less of a presence he has, the easier it will be for town! The more I think about it, the first reaction of Acrofales is pretty suspicious... If there is no better candidate, he might be a good target. However, he could also have been just upset by the random votes as a beginner. But the reaction was a bit... strong, for a townie...? I didn't choose you for your player history or anything, gumshoe! In fact, I didn't even look at your profile I just dislike people who lurk and say nothing, and you were the first lurker I saw when I looked for lurkers - but you were just offline, so it's not really suspicious.I wonder if we should continue with the random votes...? It seems a bit counter-intuitive to me, but it seems to produce a lot of good data (reactions from the targets, and even other players!). | ||
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On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote: What does "interesting" mean? Is it scummy? Any kind of information is good (this is a game of information, after all ) - such as information that increases or decreases the chances of someone being Mafia. There can never be 100% certainty, but since we have to vote every day, we will have to go by probabilities, and without information there can be no probabilities. We have already gathered a lot of info, but many (half?) of the players have talked next to nothing. Even if we lynched Acrofales as a "somewhat likely" Mafia, we would still want to gather more reactions before Saturday. | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:29 Zealos wrote: Seems too keen to play on the confusion around WBG. Lynching him even though it is explicitly stated that he is unlynchable? One of these content-less scumesq posts imo. Lets hear some actual opinions on people? Hmm... I didn't really think too much about GreYMisT wanting to lynch Wherebugsgo, since I thought he just hadn't read the rules at first or something. But he's clearly not a beginner (hosting the Aperture Mafia and all), so I have to ask, what was your purpose to do that? To confuse the discussion, or was it just a mistake? I wouldn't say this is any real evidence of being in Mafia, but I just can't think of a reason for a townie to do that? :O That second post though, I don't it's suspicious. Isn't it reasonable to question someone who is so overzealous to hear explanations (I can't think of any way for Acrofales to prove his innocence, anyway - even his role reveal would be be more harmful than useful, if he is town...). | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:44 GreYMisT wrote: If it wasnt already apparent that the "Guys we should lynch wherebugsgo, just to be sure" was a joke, me saying later that it was should have made it quite clear. Haha, way to confuse us When I think about it, it didn't seem so serious to begin with, and I didn't think about it too much. Then someone started questioning that statement and got me to also question its meaning.gumshoe... Yeah, he doesn't seem like a bad target. I voted OriginalName earlier though, to make him react somehow, but he's still missing! | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:57 GreYMisT wrote: Can't really get someone to react to a lynch vote if we don't announce it now can we? "Voting is done in a separate thread, located here. Please keep votes there, and only vote there." I thought you can't put your vote here? It's true though, that he might not notice the lynch threat, if it's only in the voting thread. Another problem is that he probably won't make a fatal mistake anymore, since he has had time to analyze this thread...? | ||
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On March 22 2012 04:06 Curu wrote: You can announce your votes in the thread for the purpose of punctuating your point or announcing your vote, it just won't be counted unless it's in the voting thread. Thank you! Okay then, I will also type it here: ##Unvote ##Vote OriginalName Anyone with me to put more pressure on him? Although it will be useless if he doesn't post until close to the deadline. And I don't know if it's good to lynch someone without good clues, even if he is a lurker....? He might be an important town role who just went on a trip without internet.There's still a lot of time before this day ends, so be sure to vote someone you want to put pressure on, even if you aren't certain that he is Mafia. When someone is under pressure, they will make mistakes more easily | ||
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On March 22 2012 04:12 Zealos wrote: #Original Name Lets try to get him talking (By the way, fix your post in the voting thread! ) | ||
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(They might just be offline too, though...) | ||
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On March 22 2012 04:35 Risen wrote: I'm going to say we need to wait a bit more before calling people lurkers. I woke up, posted a bit and then went to class. Some people have jobs and shiz where they wouldn't be able to respond until later today (like 6-8 hours) Heh, good point I'm going to sleep in a few hours though, and if they haven't posted anything yet by the time I wake up, I'll start to get suspicious of their intentions! But it's true that most people can't come online at several points during the day, let alone while not at home. I can use my phone to check this thread, if need be, but those "lurkers" might only access internet once per day or something... | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Nicolas | ||
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Nicolas hasn't responded to my vote, but maybe he's just busy with his life or something? Also, as someone said, voting without any evidence isn't really much of a pressure. Maybe I should drop my vote on him for now, although I don't like people just avoiding contact like this... Although I'm a newbie, I'll try to give my opinion on the "main suspects" for being Mafia (I'm going to ignore WBG's accusations, since I don't know what info he has or even what his motives are): 1) Acrofales: The first person to act suspiciously, becoming very defensive and aggressive after some pressure. He hasn't been otherwise suspicious though, so maybe he was just surprised by the situation and overreacted (he isn't a veteran, after all...). I wouldn't say he is cleared by his more recent actions, but I wouldn't say he is the main suspect either. 2) gumshoe: Suggesting a role claim for Acrofales might have been a plot to abuse his newness and to make him reveal a possibly critical town role, but I'm not sure about that. He didn't understand Petyr's role either at first - perhaps he didn't quite know what he was doing in his first posts. If he was a veteran, he would be very suspicious, but since he's not, I'm not sold on lynching him yet. 3) Mattchew: He hasn't said anything truly suspicious, but he has been extremely aggressive towards Acrofales, and even accused people of being Mafia for merely considering the innocence of Acrofales... Same as with gumshoe, he might be merely playing in a confusing way (newbie/personality trait), but to me he seems slightly more suspicious than gumshoe. As for Oberyn... I don't really think he's in the same league as these three. He has certainly been cautious, but not overly defensive. He hasn't contributed that much, but then again, neither have most of the players (yet). Why lynch him now, instead of one of these three? I'm going to change my vote to Mattchew for now, but it's definitely not final. I'll wait for some sort of consensus to appear, since there's still a lot of time left. ##Unvote ##Vote Mattchew | ||
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On March 22 2012 17:48 SamuelLJackson wrote: You are going to wait for some sort of consensus to appear? How does that make sense? Overall that post is a bit wishy-washy and I'm not liking the fact you are focusing on, as you call them, "main suspects" as that suggests you are less interested in finding scum on your own and more interested in blending in. Although you are a newbie? Really? I didn't say that I would sit idle and stay with my vote on Mattchew With consensus I merely meant that before being too sure about the suspiciousness of anyone, I would wait for more analysis and reactions.As for why I talked about those three now... So far I have focused on lurkers, but without any results. So I thought to give my opinion on the ones everyone has been talking about. However, I still think the lurkers would need more pressure on them. I just don't really know how to do it, since a single vote doesn't scare anyone, and they haven't given any reads either. What would you suggest then? Opinions seem to be split: some want to focus on lurkers, some on the ones with possible Mafia reads. | ||
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