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Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 03:00:30
January 31 2012 01:42 GMT
#1
As there is a lot of posts about Stephano's action in forfeiting in ONOG, I can't seem to find (or perhaps the information is spread throughout) anything about what Tyler did?

I think I got that Tyler lost a game to Catz and forfeited in the group stage? Can anyone else elaborate on the reasons/what happened?

Thanks.



Mod edit:
On January 31 2012 11:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Medical reasons unrelated to depression. Apologies to ONOG for not providing any explanation of my absence. That kind of behavior is extremely unprofessional and I regret it. I'll make sure it's the last time.

You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
January 31 2012 01:44 GMT
#2
As far as I can tell, nobody knows why. Maybe you can send him a PM or ask in his fan club?
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 31 2012 01:45 GMT
#3
Might be covered on SOTG, who knows.
Try asking yeah.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
January 31 2012 01:46 GMT
#4
a kick in the nackers if I ever saw one.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
January 31 2012 01:46 GMT
#5
Tyler's actions haven't really been followed up on because it was group play and it didn't affect anyone's standings in the tourney. It's probably just anger at himself for losing and not wanting to show a 0-4 result in that group (likely). It's a shame...IDK why nony can't shine like he did in BW..big shame.
aka SethN
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 31 2012 01:48 GMT
#6
I heard he was sick.. can't remember, but I think one of the TL staff posted it on twitter/reddit.
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NoCatsCradle
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
January 31 2012 01:48 GMT
#7
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.
No cat. No cradle.
NoCatsCradle
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
January 31 2012 01:49 GMT
#8
On January 31 2012 10:46 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Tyler's actions haven't really been followed up on because it was group play and it didn't affect anyone's standings in the tourney. It's probably just anger at himself for losing and not wanting to show a 0-4 result in that group (likely). It's a shame...IDK why nony can't shine like he did in BW..big shame.


It was a bit unfair to Catz who had to risk losing to him whereas Stephano and Rotterdam were given free wins.
No cat. No cradle.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
January 31 2012 01:49 GMT
#9
On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.



Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match.

Community starting unneeded drama as always.
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 01:53:00
January 31 2012 01:51 GMT
#10
On January 31 2012 10:42 Eventine wrote:
I think I got that Tyler lost a game to Catz and forfeited in the group stage? Can anyone else elaborate on the reasons/what happened?

Thanks.


That is pretty much the jist of it. This was a non-live streamed, pool play match. Much different situation than the Stephano kerfuffle. He showed up on time, played his match and forfeited the other two games to Catz. Unfortunate but, in my mind, acceptable.

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Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
January 31 2012 01:54 GMT
#11
Tyler does this every now and then, I imagine he might make an excuse on sotg but more like than not it was a rage (depression?) quit.
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Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 01:55:48
January 31 2012 01:55 GMT
#12
On January 31 2012 10:51 moge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:42 Eventine wrote:
I think I got that Tyler lost a game to Catz and forfeited in the group stage? Can anyone else elaborate on the reasons/what happened?

Thanks.


That is pretty much the jist of it. This was a non-live streamed, pool play match. Much different situation than the Stephano kerfuffle. He showed up on time, played his match and forfeited the other two games to Catz. Unfortunate but, in my mind, acceptable.

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Thanks.

I'm sort of curious what everyone else thinks about why TL forums threat this situation different from the only other time I can think about someone [essentially] forfeiting in the group stage, that being Naniwa. I can understand that ONOG is a smaller tournament, but it seems to me that we should hold all professional players in tournaments to the same standard.

(I can understand if they forfeit for good reasons though)
You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
January 31 2012 01:55 GMT
#13
On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.



Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match.

Community starting unneeded drama as always.


I have to agree with you. hmm got nothing to say o_o
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memcpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
January 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#14
On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.



Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match.

Community starting unneeded drama as always.


At what point exactly does it become ok to forfeit? Group play, ro16, ro8, ro4, finals?
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 31 2012 01:58 GMT
#15
I didn't even know that Nony forfeited, and to whoever asked why he isn't as good in SC2 as he was in BW, he will be once the game develops more. He has an amazing ability to learn, which is his best attribute.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 01:58:56
January 31 2012 01:58 GMT
#16
On January 31 2012 10:56 memcpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:
On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.



Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match.

Community starting unneeded drama as always.


At what point exactly does it become ok to forfeit? Group play, ro16, ro8, ro4, finals?



When you don't want to play anymore.

*shrug* I think a player can do whatever he likes. He's just got to be prepared for consequences.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 31 2012 01:59 GMT
#17
On January 31 2012 10:56 memcpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:
On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.



Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match.

Community starting unneeded drama as always.


At what point exactly does it become ok to forfeit? Group play, ro16, ro8, ro4, finals?


Pretty much ok until the finals imo

But don't forfeit if you make the tournament change its rules and make everybody wait for you
NoCatsCradle
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
January 31 2012 01:59 GMT
#18
On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.



Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match.

Community starting unneeded drama as always.


So Tyler's unprofessional behavior is justified because nobody care about his games?

(Hint: the answer is 'yes')
No cat. No cradle.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
January 31 2012 02:01 GMT
#19
On January 31 2012 10:49 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:48 NoCatsCradle wrote:
Pretty unprofessional behavior by Tyler.

I wonder if this incident will prevent tournament organizers from inviting him in the future.



Give me a fucking break, all you people who were bitching in the other thread about Tyler FF is not the same as Stephano FF a finals match.

Community starting unneeded drama as always.

Apparently that guy just registered to bitch about the TL writeup. Don't give him attention.
PikaXchU
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore379 Posts
January 31 2012 02:01 GMT
#20
Why does this thread even exist?
Carrier has arrived.
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