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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2011 22:23 GMT
#32
/in

I'm in no other games and I'll have plenty of time to devote to this game until well into next year.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 19 2011 07:02 GMT
#105
Just a little pre-alignment disclaimer: I'll possibly be somewhat unavailable during parts of December 24th and December 26th because of birthday parties.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 21:24:17
December 19 2011 21:15 GMT
#121
Feel free to put in OP.

Ver's filter
ZBot's filter
  1. Foolishness's filter
  2. RebirthOfLeGenD's filter
  3. wherebugsgo's filter
  4. kitaman27's filter
  5. syllogism's filter
  6. SamuelLJackson's filter
  7. Jackal58's filter
  8. Liquid`Sheth's filter
  9. GMarshal's filter
  10. Meapak_Ziphh's filter
  11. Mr. Wiggles's filter
  12. Palmar's filter
  13. Chezinu's filter
  14. chaoser's filter
  15. bumatlarge's filter
  16. BloodyC0bbler's filter
  17. LSB's filter
  18. GGQ's filter
  19. prplhz's filter
  20. VisceraEyes's filter

RebirthOfLeGenD's filter works alright, it's just that he hasn't posted in this thread yet.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 20 2011 03:07 GMT
#154
I think the game starts in 53 minutes?

Who, if anybody, is replacing Meapak_Ziphh and RebirthOfLeGenD?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 20 2011 05:54 GMT
#179
Hey look, I RNG'd VisceraEyes!

##Vote VisceraEyes

@bumatlarge

I have a hard time making sense of this post. First, I think it is badly worded. Next, what the hell are "responsibility points"? Why did you get some for proposing RNG while VisceraEyes got some for saying that he doesn't understand the point of RNG? Why are you blindly setup speculating about a Captain Obvious role, and what would he have to do with these responsibility points? What are responsibility points used for?

How much is "a tiny bit" compared to "very little"?

I also don't get this post. What did you trigger? Is there ever any point in being too anything? Are you Captain Tautology?

How did you try to start discussion?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 20 2011 06:02 GMT
#181
@chaoser Blatantly bating? I am not impressed. My experience tells me that scum are more likely to do that than town.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 21 2011 00:43 GMT
#299
I think you might have a point about him saying that his meta with Chezinu is useless.

I think you have a point about how he has to do something entirely different if he has any aspirations of getting hit by scum night1.

I think your points about the RNG question, the SK, and the misunderstandings are weak.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 21 2011 03:16 GMT
#326
I'll talk to you VisceraEyes! If you want to talk to me...

Why are you voting Palmar and not Foolishness? Foolishness has provided even less reason to vote for L than Palmar has. Palmar also lives in Iceland where it is 3AM right now, so he has a very valid excuse for not being around. I don't know exactly what timezone Foolishness lives in, but I think it's much more likely that he should be around!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 21 2011 03:39 GMT
#331
@VisceraEyes

Uh, that might have come out wrong, I don't really condone voting for either Foolishness or Palmar right now.

So why are you voting for Foolishness?

I don't get why you think L has contributed a ton.

His first post was generic advice.
His second post didn't follow this generic advice, instead he rambles on about RNG for ages, concluding that it is bad even though it has evidently spurred discussion.
His third post, he concludes that LSB is either red or blue then just leaves it there. In the second part of his post he displays excellent logic I think, but then he kinda outs bumatlarge as blue. Why would a town aligned player ever give his blue reads like this?

@LSB

You want lynch between Liquid`Sheth, VisceraEyes and me? Can you list the vets who get to freeload day1 if they want to?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 21 2011 18:30 GMT
#411
@chaoser Radfield had the same concern about my meta in XLVIII, he made a case supported by the idea that my town meta was tunneling people as hard as I could and then he voted me. We were both town in that game. My meta has changed, I don't tunnel anymore (at least not that much).


I think VisceraEyes needs to get off Palmar's back. Right now the town is in a state where I don't think we're likely to catch scum. A lot of people are lurking instead of trying to establish themselves as scum. I think VisceraEyes has a valid point that a lot of the veterans here play like Radfield plays, he likes to sit back and watch the show and then get his reads from unsuspecting scum who think they're doing all fine. We can't all do that though, for obvious reasons.

I think what a scum would do in this situation is not post a lot. Scum is very happy with the current state of the town so they don't want to disturb it and the amount of lurkers make it easy for them to hide in there. This is why I don't think that lynching Palmar or VisceraEyes for that matter is a good idea, they're both townies trying to make the atmosphere better. One does it better than the other but that's besides the point.


I think GMarshal can do a lot better, I have only played with him in one game but in that game he made outrageous posts like this one. This isn't a meta behavioral argument, this is an argument about how much GMarshal contributes when he finally signs up, and this is an argument about how skilled GMarshal really is, even though the case was wrong I think it took significant skill just to come up with it!

I don't like this post:

On December 22 2011 02:12 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 02:01 Palmar wrote:
On December 22 2011 01:58 GMarshal wrote:
So, I'm not even caught up with the thread at this point, (I'm on like page 16), I just wanted to say that I've been occupied with other things and haven't had a chance to really do anything yet. I'll be trying to give the town something to work with when I get out of work in about 4 hours. Until then I have spreadsheets to sort and other such lovely joys.

Sorry people, I hate to lurk, I'll do my best to make it up to you guys when I get back, but yesterday I was incredibly busy.


Can you at least stop long enough to tell us if you actually intend to continue pushing a policy lynch on sandroba/curu?

No idea, haven't caught up with the thread, not if there are any real candidates to lynch though (or if I can peg any, really). I'm curious to see who jumped on my hydra wagon, too. The thing with policy lynches is they are good and dandy as an initial point of discussion, but they suck from an information perspective. Its always interesting to see who jumps on it though.

Now, I need to eat food and then do work.

He doesn't know if he'll continue pushing SamuelLJackson, even though it seems like it was actually just a plan to see who would jump on his hydra wagon. I don't think anybody jumped on it though, and it seems rather optimistic with such a plan in a game full of veterans like this. How would you rate that plan Mr. Wiggles?

That said, I think there are better lynches than GMarshal today. I don't doubt that GMarshal is actually busy because he seems like a nice guy and nice guys don't lie. Just like Liquid`Sheth, he seems like a nice guy too so he wouldn't lie about a sinus infection keeping him away from mafia. I'm on a train and my internet goes out in 5 kilometers (screw you imperials) but I'll have more time when I get home, maybe someone can point out a couple of people I could look into? Preferably lurkers like GGQ.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 21 2011 18:32 GMT
#412
establish themselves as town*

duh
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 03:32 GMT
#634
Hey guys it's 4:30AM here and I set my alarm so I could be part of the lynch, trying frantically to read up on the thread (at page 26) but it appears that a ton of people are on LSB's back. I'm not sure about the meta-behavioral analysis, anybody would lack confidence in a town like this, and the "bus" thing is also weird, the case on LSB by wherebugsgo wasn't good enough for LSB to just throw himself under a fictional bus to discredit wherebugsgo.

That being said there's a ton of people on LSB right now so I think he's likely the best lynch. I'll be around until deadline reading up on the thread and then it's back to bed.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 03:32 GMT
#635
Also,

##Unvote VisceraEyes
##Vote LSB
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 04:16 GMT
#647
It's not like this game at any point has been impressive in terms of activity.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 04:27 GMT
#649
One of the concerns I have with this is that LSB seems to be up for lynch because of misplaced bus comments and lack of confidence. I lack confidence in this game too, it's full of people considered to be among the very best teamliquid has to offer, and I don't really buy into the misplaced bus comments.

About the roles, town should never conclude anything from roles in a closed setup. I think this could very well be a point in this game, there's been some talk about roles and alignment and breadcrumbing and stuff like that lately, but that's purely speculation. What isn't speculation is that town should never conclude anything from roles in a closed setup. Because it's a closed setup. We can use roles to direct attention to people, but not to conclude that at least one of these guys has to be scum.

I would much rather lynch BloodyC0bbler because it looks to me like he's just sitting back and enjoying the fireworks, I know that's not going to happen though.

What do people think of these thoughts? Namely that the case on LSB is still weak, and that we shouldn't conclude anything from all these claims but only use them to exert pressure on LSB/GM?

@VisceraEyes No but that was kinda 5 posts into the game, I was trying to prod you since you were all pissed at RNG. I think RNGs are alright because they prod and they spur discussion (look at half the discussion in this game has been about RNG, that sucks but that's because people didn't move on, and not because RNG is bad at starting discussion). My thoughts are up there, just F5'd before I posted.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 04:36 GMT
#653
I'm going to venture asking Foolishness a question.

Is LSB town?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 04:41 GMT
#661
On December 22 2011 13:37 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 13:36 prplhz wrote:
I'm going to venture asking Foolishness a question.
Is LSB town?

I don't know. What I do know is that LSB is being responsible, and GMarshal is not.

  1. You don't buy into the idea that GMarshal would never claim to be busy when he's actually just lurking because he doesn't want to say anything because he's scum?
  2. By "being responsible" I hope you're not talking about "responsibility points", but about how LSB is actually around to defend himself while GMarshal is not?

I numbered my question so it would be very easy for you to answer!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 04:46 GMT
#664
On December 22 2011 13:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 13:16 prplhz wrote:
It's not like this game at any point has been impressive in terms of activity.


wow, this is ironic coming from you.

What have you done all game? RNG VE?

You have no room to talk when it comes to activity.

Why are you assuming there are 3 scum, wiggles, when the total mafia number is listed at 4?

Hey, I don't have to take that. I've been busy, but I've still been reasonably active, I've tried to contribute and I've tried to be transparent. There are a ton of people in this thread who have been less active than me, your case that no one bought into because it wasn't really that good doesn't make you the Emperor of Activityville. I'm up to date on the thread, I have a ton of notes and I have been around sporadically to comment on things, I didn't just post a single post and then left.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 04:53 GMT
#670
Yes.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 22 2011 17:40 GMT
#700
On December 23 2011 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
What about my Traitor theory guys? Hey! Hey! What about my Traitor theory? Everyone's ignoring it!

As I understand it, your traitor theory is that GMarshal is the traitor. I don't see why you think this. Only a lunatic would claim to be a vig who can only hit scum, when he's scum aligned. It could only get crazier if he also claimed that he is compulsive.
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