EPTDiet Soda ok or bad?
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Tiamat
United States498 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20176 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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Autofire2
Pakistan290 Posts
I dunno, there seems to be a belief that it MUST be bad but no actual evidence? I've been confused about this issue for awhile. | ||
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StaticIce
Australia9 Posts
The carcinogenic effects of the artificial sweeteners is a far lower risk of harming you then the potential of diabetes or heart disease caused by the sugar which is far more common. There been some studies conducted by the University of Sydney in Australia which there were a few thesis is on this topic. | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
i made the switch to flavored sparkling water and ice tea instead and wow. what a difference. once you get used to it you won't in back to anything else. feel like a new person. | ||
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
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lowallyn
Canada84 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On November 07 2011 18:08 StaticIce wrote: Most of the Medical student that iv talked to about this say that the sugar to soda is far worse for you then the artificial sweetener in the diet soda. The carcinogenic effects of the artificial sweeteners is a far lower risk of harming you then the potential of diabetes or heart disease caused by the sugar which is far more common. There been some studies conducted by the University of Sydney in Australia which there were a few thesis is on this topic. The problem with hearsay is that you can't tell which is really reliable. I heard the complete opposite, that the sugar is way better than artificial sweeteners. Personally I try to avoid artificial sweeteners. I dunno why, just feel better about it. | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
Also I actually prefer the taste of Diet Coke than Classic because Classic leaves a nasty acidic after-taste which I really dislike. That said, apparently Coke Zero is really bad but Diet Coke is alright. Something to do with brain function or something in Zero. | ||
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
Diet Pepsi, has chloride molycules attached to the sugar, chloride is known to give you cancer and other bad stuff. Not drinking that either. Sugar in normal cola / soda. Makes you fat, and if drank in absurd large amounts, but better small amounts of sugar than the other things.. But if you really think of stuff like that, don't drink soda! | ||
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Atreides
United States2393 Posts
 Also, I am pretty sure that Diet soda is very bad for your teeth if you care about that lol. TLDR: Soda habit hard to kick because substitutes are not particularly healthy either. Pretty much should try to drink water, but there are many reasons why this is hard. | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
That's kind of how I quit all other unhealthy drinks. Coffee when I wake up and green tea for the rest of the day is very enjoyable for me. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On November 07 2011 21:16 windzor wrote: So, Diet Coca cola has Aspartame which in the body chemistry is decomposted into methanol, which is the really dangoures part. 10 mL of that makes you blind, yeah i'm not drinking that. Diet Pepsi, has chloride molycules attached to the sugar, chloride is known to give you cancer and other bad stuff. Not drinking that either. Sugar in normal cola / soda. Makes you fat, and if drank in absurd large amounts, but better small amounts of sugar than the other things.. But if you really think of stuff like that, don't drink soda! If you don't cite a study, this kind of comes off as tin foil hattish. For all those suggesting coffee take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_coffee#Risks ok, so it's maybe not a big deal, just interesting and here is the deal with aspartame nicely summarized by wiki shit's safe unless you inject grams of it into a rat and a quick summary on diet sodas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_soda#Health_concerns Looks to me like having some diet soda isn't a big deal, but that people who tend to drink diet soda tend to make other bad choices for themselves, but I guess you would know if you are or aren't. Also, having all of that caffeine is not good for you for sure. Maybe try getting down to just 2 a day. It seems that there is not really any problem with it. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
at least reduce the amount of soda you drink, because even if you like the taste, it doesnt mean you have to completely binge the fuck out and only drink it for every meal and every hydration of your day. | ||
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dymlos
United States19 Posts
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dtvu
Australia687 Posts
On November 07 2011 22:45 Orpheos wrote: really I think you should try just try switching to drinking water. its more natural and saves you alot of money. at least reduce the amount of soda you drink, because even if you like the taste, it doesnt mean you have to completely binge the fuck out and only drink it for every meal and every hydration of your day. Agree Water is more natural and ironically people buys bottled water nowadays - I still find this hilarious. But on topic, drinking one or two diet soda instead of the real soda is probable better for you in the long run. However, if you are gonna drink it as a replacement for water, then that gets a bit unhealthy (8 is practically replacing water since you only need to drink 8 glasses of water a day). | ||
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On November 07 2011 21:16 windzor wrote: So, Diet Coca cola has Aspartame which in the body chemistry is decomposted into methanol, which is the really dangoures part. 10 mL of that makes you blind, yeah i'm not drinking that. Diet Pepsi, has chloride molycules attached to the sugar, chloride is known to give you cancer and other bad stuff. Not drinking that either. Sugar in normal cola / soda. Makes you fat, and if drank in absurd large amounts, but better small amounts of sugar than the other things.. But if you really think of stuff like that, don't drink soda! While methanol is one of the byproducts in the digestion and 10 mL of *PURE* methanol can cause blindless please dont quote everything you see on wikipedia as true. There is a reason you cant just cite wikipedia for university research lmao. Free methanol is created when the temperatures are much higher than you would have in a normal environment. So unless you are nuking your can of diet soda in the microwave this wont be an issue. Although improper storage could cause this as well. To the OP... I would just all together stop drinking any forms of soda.. esp 8 cans a day. There are much more harmful things in diet soda than just aspartame. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2598 Posts
On November 07 2011 21:16 windzor wrote: So, Diet Coca cola has Aspartame which in the body chemistry is decomposted into methanol, which is the really dangoures part. 10 mL of that makes you blind, yeah i'm not drinking that. Diet Pepsi, has chloride molycules attached to the sugar, chloride is known to give you cancer and other bad stuff. Not drinking that either. Sugar in normal cola / soda. Makes you fat, and if drank in absurd large amounts, but better small amounts of sugar than the other things.. But if you really think of stuff like that, don't drink soda! Contrary to the poster above, there's not a lot you can do to make this statement not sound tin foil hattish. Methanol is a naturally occurring substance that is found in all kinds of things, including fruit. A very large dose of it will in fact make you go blind, and more of it will kill you, but a massive dose of water will also make you die, and no one is worried that diet sodas' high water content is deleterious to their health. http://www.ajcn.org/content/46/1/204.abstract <-- A paper describing the blood concentrations of aspartate, phenylalanine and methanol produced by injesting aspartame. The abstract reads: Toxicology is based on the premise that all compounds are toxic at some dose. Thus, it is not surprising that very large doses of aspartame (or its components--aspartate, phenylalanine, and methanol) produce deleterious effects in sensitive animal species. The critical question is whether aspartame ingestion is potentially harmful to humans at normal use and potential abuse levels. This paper reviews clinical studies testing the effects of various doses of aspartame upon blood levels of aspartate, phenylalanine, and methanol. These studies demonstrate that blood levels of these compounds are well below levels associated with adverse effects in sensitive animal species. Moving on to your "chloride molycules." I'm not sure where this is coming from. Pepsi is sweetened using aspartame, as far as I can find, which doesn't contain chloride. It used to contain saccharin, but that also doesn't contain any chloride. Are you thinking of sucralose (Splenda)? It contains chloride, but as far as I can find the only diet soda that uses it is one I've never heard of called Diet Rite. And assuming I'm missing something about the ingredients of a Diet Pepsi, why would the presence of molecules containing chloride in your food scare you so much? You know it's the non-sodium half of a table salt molecule, right? | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
i dont know antyhing but since you said it has caffeine in...? i drink only milk/water unless i am bumming out (in which case ill have coca cola with ice, or fruit juice, or fruit smoothies, and reeeeally enjoy it all) but when i have energy drink, the 30mg caffine stuff, it has a pretty profound affect on me. ill slowly drink a litre bottle of it over a few hours and be buzzing , pretty much a substitute for alcohol. but if i drink anymore than 1 litre or 900ml then i start to feel very nauseous/sick, and get racing thoughts/have trouble getting to sleep later. i havent read any info on it but just saying it has a pretty powerful affect on me (someone who ddrinks it very irregularly and barely drinks coffee) so maybe it is bad for you too. i actually dont drink coffee sometimes too when offered incase it makes my heart race and makes me become anxious as decaf said the cost of your drink sound crazy but thats not something we can really judge ourselves :D i would probably wanna try drinking fruit smoothies every day if they werent like £2 a litre or whatever! i know you dont want anecdotal info but meh :D | ||
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