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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
November 02 2011 14:52 GMT
#1
Hi TL admins,
I'm referring to this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=281817 regarding someone's quest to worker rush to farm portraits.

In my opinion, this is very questionable because:
- Portrait farming is a frowned upon activity.
- There is BM in the blog, I feel that TL shouldn't condone BM.
- Ruining other people's fun in bronze.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 02 2011 15:19 GMT
#2
I agree that this isn't appropriate for the spotlight for a number of reasons. Mango removed it but I'd like to take credit because I saw this topic first.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 02 2011 15:31 GMT
#3
Although I enjoyed the blog myself (and defended the OP in what he was doing), I was surprised to see it spotlighted, and not shocked to see it un-spotlighted. Not only, as Azzur said, is it a little inappropriate for spotlight (for the reasons listed), but it a lot of people were complaining, and it wasn't going to end well.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
November 02 2011 16:20 GMT
#4
When did we get so PC that we can't enjoy a fun to read, well written blog.
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
November 02 2011 16:57 GMT
#5
I defended the OP in the thread and I'd like to do so again here. I think those that consider him BM/supporting portrait farming are somewhat misreading the blog posts. He reveals his own mistakes, and tells us why he considers them wrong now. Furthermore, we get information that would otherwise not be known to us about low MMR leagues.

On the other hand, it would have been polite to write in the thread for which "number of reasons" he was despotlighted. Someone must have thought him worthy of a spotlight, right? So this backtracking is somewhat dubious. I also doubt whether the reasons for despotlighting would stand the test of public criticism.

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Wrote this already, must have misclicked. I wonder if my comment went to some random thread on TL ><
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
November 02 2011 17:19 GMT
#6
On November 03 2011 01:20 T.O.P. wrote:
When did we get so PC that we can't enjoy a fun to read, well written blog.

I agree. I expressed my opinion on the matter in the blog, but to summarize it's basically that it's a blog about a journey with positive result. Sure the journey might have been harmful to someone at some point (e.g. the BM'd), but in the end the OP corrected his ways.

Also,
- Portrait farming is a frowned upon activity.

I wasn't really aware that was the case. I guess it is somewhat shady, but I thought the general opinion was that people play the game for different reasons.
- There is BM in the blog, I feel that TL shouldn't condone BM.

While being spotlighted makes it somewhat different, there is an entire thread on sharing BM where a lot of people post BM they initiate themselves. I thought TL's policy was that actions outside TL are rarely ever enforced on TL.
- Ruining other people's fun in bronze.

I feel like that is somewhat subjective. He shows examples of a lot of angry players, but I don't think it's necessarily the case that they were going to have fun that he just ruined. Also he's explained before that he doesn't save the majority of his replays where he lost and maybe those bronze players had a lot of fun fending off the worker rush.
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willll
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States73 Posts
November 02 2011 18:34 GMT
#7
I agree with this removal. While this is obviously subjective, reading it just made me feel bad. Bad for the guy who wrote it, bad for the people he played against, just bad. Was glad to see it was gone when I came back after lunch. Spotlight is best when it is something that is without a doubt awesome. A thread like that...well, I don't think it is the same. I think the topic is worth a blog, but spotlight is not quite the same thing. Thanks TL.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 02 2011 20:29 GMT
#8
while i loved the blog, I'll have to agree with willll. It is too subjective to be spotlighted.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 02 2011 22:04 GMT
#9
Political correctness is lame. The blog was pretty funny, don't be such sissies.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 02 2011 22:27 GMT
#10
Ehh, it's one thing not to adhere to PC for the sake of it RebirthOfLeGenD but I can see how that would actually make a lot of new players turned off by TL. Best to enjoy and not accept the behavior for everyone on the website by displaying it on front page.
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
November 07 2011 00:42 GMT
#11
It's spotlighted again, what has changed now? It's still a blog about tanking ones rating to play in Bronze which is a bannable offense for blizz, and it's still about making fun about bad players. I think a lot of new players come here to get better, not to be made fun of.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
November 07 2011 00:50 GMT
#12
Hot_Bid thought this was appropriate since it has no BM.
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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
November 07 2011 01:31 GMT
#13
Why is everyone so when the blog is so

Clearly the guy doesn't care. He even tells people how to defend it. Hell he is providing a service in training the newbies. In this particular case, PC = pointless crap.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 07 2011 02:24 GMT
#14
Thanks for the spotlight, the blog is SirJolt good.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 07 2011 11:24 GMT
#15
I remember Hot_Bids BOSS cannon rush guide being featured and I don't see how that is any better than worker rushing hahah.
But all in all both were fun blogs and nothing to take too serious.Don't see what the fuss is all about.
Cackle™
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 12:15:38
November 07 2011 12:15 GMT
#16
On November 07 2011 20:24 TheKefka wrote:
I remember Hot_Bids BOSS cannon rush guide being featured and I don't see how that is any better than worker rushing hahah.
But all in all both were fun blogs and nothing to take too serious.Don't see what the fuss is all about.

The difference is, this guy is not writing a guide, he's making fun of newbies. But since it has pictures in it it's "well written" so it seems like that is cool now.
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