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[M] (2) Crux GSL Bel'Shir Beach Winter Rework

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LS
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 18:08:11
October 16 2011 16:16 GMT
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Created by LSPrime
Suggest players 2
Playable 120 x 128
Published KR (GSL2012 - 벨시르 해안 W)

http://teamcrux.tistory.com/

*Test version now
Rework again for GSL2012

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(2)Bel'shir Beach Winter Rework
Suggest players 2
Playable 120 x 128
Published KR NA EU SEA

Created by LSPrime

http://teamcrux.tistory.com/

Original Bel'Shir Beach

for next GSL

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looks whiteness?
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
October 16 2011 16:22 GMT
#2
Will it replace bel'shir beach?

Please use another name because belshir beach is already known in tournaments and it's not a beach anymore, you know
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
October 16 2011 16:23 GMT
#3
When air flies over the areas you lowered the amount that kinda much - their movement might look pretty dumb.
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monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2404 Posts
October 16 2011 16:28 GMT
#4
Nice remake! I'm concerned that the third is too hard to take for Protoss right now though. I think just choking it slightly would really help Zerg.

Also a small bridge through the middle would really help map flow and harassment in my opinion, and it would reduce the base races (because of split pathing).

Like this:

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I dislike the location of the expansion against the main, because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can't imagine it ever really being taken instead of the third in the corner since it is much more open and close to the opponent's natural. Once each player has five bases though, it is practically impossible to take since it is so close to the opponent's base.

This is what I mean:

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I might actually redesign the side expansions so there are only 10 expos on the map. Maybe a gold expansion to encourage splitting the map in different directions?

Here's an idea (might not be a good idea):

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chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
October 16 2011 17:20 GMT
#5
I'm all for winter maps, but why would you remake the most beautiful map of all time? ._.
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 17:36:20
October 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#6
On October 17 2011 02:20 chocopaw wrote:
I'm all for winter maps, but why would you remake the most beautiful map of all time? ._.

On low graphics (like many pros use) you can't see through the water so you can't see the edge of creep, etc. It's pretty but isn't very playable all in all.
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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
October 16 2011 17:39 GMT
#7
On October 17 2011 02:20 chocopaw wrote:
I'm all for winter maps, but why would you remake the most beautiful map of all time? ._.

Because it's winter! :D
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
October 16 2011 17:43 GMT
#8
I wish Blizz put more of your maps on ladder. I hate Ladder maps T_T.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
October 16 2011 18:15 GMT
#9
I actually like the winter setting!
Airestyx
Profile Joined October 2011
United States44 Posts
October 16 2011 19:02 GMT
#10
Looks awesome can't wait to either try it out or to have it seen in GSL.
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IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
October 16 2011 19:20 GMT
#11
I don't like monitor's suggestion with repositioning the bases. It reminds me of my map, TPW Ohana where there is a base near the main, but it is in such a position that neither player is more prone to taking that base. It becomes a "nobody wants that" type of a base. I would leave the middle bases the same.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
October 16 2011 19:40 GMT
#12
Analyzer images ?
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
October 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#13
On October 17 2011 02:43 GinDo wrote:
I wish Blizz put more of your maps on ladder. I hate Ladder maps T_T.


Yeah I totally second this! I really wish blizzard would take active roles in teaming up with a professional mapping team like Crux, TPW, Iccup, etc.

As for the map, I really like how winter maps look, and it will be neat to see this showcased in an upcoming GSL. Goodjob!
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2404 Posts
October 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#14
On October 17 2011 04:20 IronManSC wrote:
I don't like monitor's suggestion with repositioning the bases. It reminds me of my map, TPW Ohana where there is a base near the main, but it is in such a position that neither player is more prone to taking that base. It becomes a "nobody wants that" type of a base. I would leave the middle bases the same.


There are already 2 bases that are "nobody wants that" on this map, even without my change. I think these golds are more viable for both players, but you are right that they could be just as bad as before. I'm sure the expansions will play out fine, but I dislike the one against the main since it isn't very viable as a 3rd or 6th.
Mapmaker & TLMC Judge. Amygdala, Frostline, Crimson Court, and Korhal Compound (WoL).
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
October 16 2011 21:40 GMT
#15
just a short question: where do u get those snowtrees from?
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LS
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)145 Posts
October 16 2011 21:44 GMT
#16
On October 17 2011 06:40 Mereel wrote:
just a short question: where do u get those snowtrees from?

I got in sc2mapster - wow model
LunaticSounds KeSPA/GSL Map Creator TeamCrux [Twitter @LunaticSound]
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
October 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#17
On October 17 2011 05:10 eXigent. wrote:
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On October 17 2011 02:43 GinDo wrote:
I wish Blizz put more of your maps on ladder. I hate Ladder maps T_T.


Yeah I totally second this! I really wish blizzard would take active roles in teaming up with a professional mapping team like Crux, TPW, Iccup, etc.

As for the map, I really like how winter maps look, and it will be neat to see this showcased in an upcoming GSL. Goodjob!

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PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
October 16 2011 22:46 GMT
#18
Instead of having solid ground, why not change the shallow water from the original into FROZEN shallow water?

Also, penguins.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10182 Posts
October 17 2011 00:32 GMT
#19
wow very nice remake. looks pretty
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
October 17 2011 00:37 GMT
#20
Nice!

May I ask what your reasoning is about the removal of the gold expansions?
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