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chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 28 2011 10:49 GMT
#1
In 1999, german soccer player Thorsten Legat was fired by his team, multiple Bundesliga champion VfB Stuttgart, for what he claimed was a joke in the team cabines about "nigger juice" (regarding a photo of a black player of the VfB holding a water bottle).
That is only one of many cases where professional athletes faced grave consequences for intolerable behaviour, I'm sure every fan of any sport can think of some.

Just yesterday ClouD from team Alternate Attax posted this in the "Bulgarian Riots" thread here on TL:
On September 27 2011 21:26 aTnClouD wrote:
tbh the only way of dealing with the gypsies problem is becoming a terrorist and kill as many as you can. if you drive them out of your country they will inevitably plague another place and it's a culture that is not really fit for living along with any other.

User was temp banned for this post.

On September 27 2011 21:32 aTnClouD wrote:
dude you have no idea how wicked gypsies are. they are a true plague to humanity and only the people living in countries who have them understand. ask bulgarians, romanians, french or italian people they will all tell you the same.

On September 27 2011 21:52 aTnClouD wrote:
I am amazed at how stupid people can pull out the nazi card whenever they feel like. Like it or not the gypsy problem is there and it can't be solved through conventional methods cause they refuse integration more than anyone else. They litteraly live off criminality and that's pretty much all they can do.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269692

Now I wonder, will his team do the right thing and at least release a statement about this incident?
Do you guys think mailing them would help?
What is your opinion in general?

Please do NOT discuss the topic of the so called "gypsies problem" in this thread. I'd like to keep eSports unpolitical and have a good time with everyone, but there has to be a line where things that players say and write are not tolerated. I am nothing but disgusted by those posts and would like to never see him in a tournament again.

At least the mods did a good job, a big thank you for not tolerating racism on TL!
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
September 28 2011 10:51 GMT
#2
cloud technically has *some* talent in sc/sc2 but he will never become anything big. so who cares.
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Deadstrider
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands258 Posts
September 28 2011 10:52 GMT
#3
ClouD was wrong and TL did the right thing, aTn should talk this over with ClouD and ensure this will not happen again.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
September 28 2011 10:53 GMT
#4
I wonder which part of Italy Cloud is from. Here in the north, sadly lots of people are borderline racist (lega nord is the worst political part every)
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
September 28 2011 10:53 GMT
#5
Idra calls everyone a retard..Discuss?

User was warned for this post
Holy check.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:54:12
September 28 2011 10:53 GMT
#6
I think we can discuss this in the ABL and be done with it. Saying who cares is an understatement but an entire thread devoted to one players politically incorrect statements seems like a bit much.

edited out the long bit: See post directly above me^^^
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 10:54 GMT
#7
I think we should become terrorists and kill as many Italians as we can.

User was temp banned for this post.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
clazerxsniper
Profile Joined August 2011
36 Posts
September 28 2011 10:54 GMT
#8
unless you've had gypsies steal from and met them face to face, i would recommend not giving your opinion on this.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
September 28 2011 10:54 GMT
#9
On September 28 2011 19:49 chocopaw wrote:


Please do NOT discuss the topic of the so called "gypsies problem" in this thread. I'd like to keep eSports unpolitical...


well.. then dont start useless threads like that


User was warned for this post
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 28 2011 10:55 GMT
#10
Oh Carlo T_T
I dont think the last two posts are all that terrible, the terrorist one is really bad though :/
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 28 2011 10:55 GMT
#11
It has nothing to do with Sc2, why are you making this thread if you want "to keep eSports unpolitical" ?
You are making a thread to get him banned from all tournaments ? Really ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
September 28 2011 10:55 GMT
#12
the right thing to do from aTn's point of view would be to immediately release him from the team. But we all know that this won't happen..
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:58:18
September 28 2011 10:55 GMT
#13
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
September 28 2011 10:56 GMT
#14
aTn-who?
didnt this happen with someone else and they apologized for it?

pros should srsly think before they post anything....
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
September 28 2011 10:56 GMT
#15
Special thread for this... it's like asking for drama...
And yes, ClouD has a point that most Gypsies do NOT work and depend on social help from the government.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 28 2011 10:56 GMT
#16
I guess maybe he should at least apologise...
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RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
September 28 2011 10:56 GMT
#17
When did gypsies become a race? I think the word you're looking for is prejudice. Anyways I don't live in Europe so who knows he could be right about gypsies
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 10:56 GMT
#18
On September 28 2011 19:55 Sated wrote:
Gypsy isn't a race. Hence, the comments aren't racist.


Advocating discrimination, and genocide, against ethnicities is wrong no matter what word choice lawyering you try to do.

The Jewish ethnicity isn't a race either.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
September 28 2011 10:56 GMT
#19
i dunno man, living in America (or canada in my case), you don't have to deal with gypsies.
but when i travel to Europe, it's the worst

yes, it's not pc to make racist comments, but i can completely understand where he's coming from
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#20
On September 28 2011 19:53 KinQuh wrote:
Idra calls everyone a retard..Discuss?


Well surely that is fine then... he hates everyone equally.

Seriously though, that is not on, i am half spanish and spain is comprised of a HUGE gypsy population, and saying that they cannot integrate is simply untrue, the entire culture of flamenco music exists from gypsy roots.
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