• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:53
CEST 14:53
KST 21:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?85Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!41Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) September World Ranking: herO leads, Serral climbs
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9]
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
F* the Children and Get Off …
TrAiDoS
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4618 users

Racist comments by aTnClouD - Page 2

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#21
i honestly think you are making unnecessary fuss. cloud crossed a line he shouldn't have crossed and got banned for it. I'm positive he will learn his lesson as he is actually a pretty nice guy (i always thought).
pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#22
It's a political view, hardly a polarizing one either. Waste of time topic.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9054 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#23
He's already temp banned from TL. That's enough imo.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#24
Someone said something that wasn't PC on the internet! SOUND THE ALARMS! ALERT THE WORLD LEADERS! DOOMSDAY IS COMING!

Seriously? I can't believe in this day and age that people would get so worked up about something someone said on the internet. Especially something like that. Should he probably keep that kind of stuff to himself to help with his own professional image and team's image? Definitely, but I don't see how it's any different than any other stupid bull shit that's been happening on the internet since it's inception.
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#25
This thread only gives a bad image of Cloud and should be closed. I really think things like this are unnecessary. You should not start a crusade against him like this.

However, the only fault of Cloud is to express his opinion under the tag of his team.
Towni
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria144 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#26
i like em. i especially like all kind of people on this planet btw. gypsies ftw:

[image loading]

Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#27
On September 28 2011 19:56 RmoteCntrld wrote:
When did gypsies become a race? I think the word you're looking for is prejudice. Anyways I don't live in Europe so who knows he could be right about gypsies


...

so if you've never met a particular ethnicity of humans, but someone tells you we should kill them all indiscriminately, you'd believe him?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#28
On September 28 2011 19:57 Allwars wrote:
This thread only gives a bad image of Cloud and should be closed. I really think things like this are unnecessary. You should not start a crusade against him like this.

However, the only fault of Cloud is to express his opinion under the tag of his team.


yepyep

how dare we call out people who espouse genocide

do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 11:03:50
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#29
--- Nuked ---
Thug[ro]
Profile Joined October 2005
Romania340 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#30
this cloud guy is a morron
well i guess i can say let's all be terrorists and kill italians cuz they suck at driving cars!

User was warned for this post
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
September 28 2011 10:59 GMT
#31
--- Nuked ---
BearDK
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark101 Posts
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#32
If he wants to be a dick, let him be a dick. It's not like the gypsies care about what he says.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 11:03:23
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#33
On September 28 2011 19:55 Tofugrinder wrote:
the right thing to do from aTn's point of view would be to immediately release him from the team. But we all know that this won't happen..


cloud lives with the teammanager in same house ^^

cloud has a big .... temperament. you should not take him to serious

... well theres a reason such things should stay out of esport forums.... all kinds of persons play sc2 also some that feels rly different then others and such aereas about politic etc should not be in the same forum then esports stuff
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#34
On September 28 2011 19:59 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:56 Kraznaya wrote:
On September 28 2011 19:55 Sated wrote:
Gypsy isn't a race. Hence, the comments aren't racist.


Advocating discrimination, and genocide, against ethnicities is wrong no matter what word choice lawyering you try to do.

The Jewish ethnicity isn't a race either.

I didn't say it was right, I said it wasn't racist.


so what's the purpose of your post? discrimination against ethnicities is just as wrong as discrimination against races. there's nothing wrong with racism being conflicted with discrimination against ethnicities, because they amount to the same thing
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 11:02:27
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#35
If you want pros to reply on forums like this, you should not single out their posts when they voice their opinion on non game related stuff.

You can agree/disagree with him in that particular topic, but making a topic about it is just lame.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#36
On September 28 2011 19:54 clazerxsniper wrote:
unless you've had gypsies steal from and met them face to face, i would recommend not giving your opinion on this.


My ex girlfriend is a gypsy. Clouds comments are bollocks.

Ironic how he scoffs at people bringing out the 'nazi card' when he says above that the 'solution' is to kill as many as you can. He could claim that was a (really awful?) joke, but combined with the 'plague on humanity' stuff it starts to look like straight up racism.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#37
On September 28 2011 19:57 Allwars wrote:
This thread only gives a bad image of Cloud and should be closed. I really think things like this are unnecessary. You should not start a crusade against him like this.

However, the only fault of Cloud is to express his opinion under the tag of his team.

of course he gets bad image. I really hope so - if he's making that kind of racist comments at least I hope he looses lots of his fans. On TL he only got a 2 day ban so that won't effect him at all

This should made public (e.g. this thread) so that people know who Cloud really is
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#38
On September 28 2011 20:00 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:59 Sated wrote:
On September 28 2011 19:56 Kraznaya wrote:
On September 28 2011 19:55 Sated wrote:
Gypsy isn't a race. Hence, the comments aren't racist.


Advocating discrimination, and genocide, against ethnicities is wrong no matter what word choice lawyering you try to do.

The Jewish ethnicity isn't a race either.

I didn't say it was right, I said it wasn't racist.


so what's the purpose of your post? discrimination against ethnicities is just as wrong as discrimination against races. there's nothing wrong with racism being conflicted with discrimination against ethnicities, because they amount to the same thing


he just called him out on a wrong usage of terms, he didnt judge whether it made it better or worse at all, calm down
beep boop
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#39
On September 28 2011 19:55 Boblion wrote:
It has nothing to do with Sc2, why are you making this thread if you want "to keep eSports unpolitical" ?
You are making a thread to get him banned from all tournaments ? Really ?


What I meant with that is that I have my own political opinions and might express them in discussions on TL, but I don't want to generally politicize eSports.
But should players be allowed to publicly state blatently racist things? In EVERY other sport that would not be tolerated for one minute by a professional team, but hey, this is the internet, so what right?
So of course this does matter, so long as eSports matter.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#40
On September 28 2011 19:54 clazerxsniper wrote:
unless you've had gypsies steal from and met them face to face, i would recommend not giving your opinion on this.

That thing happens all day every day in my hometown and I know what it looks like. I won't give that much of a detailed comment on the issue itself, but what cloud says is damn true. There might be some issues with his wording of choice, but what he says is true. They literally make a living off criminal act.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
Masters Cup 151 Open Qualifier
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #145
herO vs ByuNLIVE!
ByuN472
CranKy Ducklings355
CranKy Ducklings SOOP75
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 490
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 56194
Shuttle 1591
Zeus 1142
actioN 767
Mini 500
firebathero 376
Hyuk 346
Soulkey 283
Hyun 149
Pusan 142
[ Show more ]
Killer 119
hero 84
910 59
JYJ 53
NaDa 45
Sharp 36
Barracks 31
soO 23
Hm[arnc] 22
HiyA 21
Free 12
SilentControl 11
Icarus 7
Dota 2
Gorgc3740
qojqva1549
resolut1ontv 155
Pyrionflax150
Counter-Strike
x6flipin907
kRYSTAL_69
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King67
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor283
Other Games
singsing2368
B2W.Neo960
XaKoH 199
Hui .39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1177
BasetradeTV81
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1780
• Nemesis1131
Upcoming Events
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2h 7m
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Patches Events
3h 7m
OSC
11h 7m
Afreeca Starleague
21h 7m
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
22h 7m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 3h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
1d 22h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Escore
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.