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rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#21
i honestly think you are making unnecessary fuss. cloud crossed a line he shouldn't have crossed and got banned for it. I'm positive he will learn his lesson as he is actually a pretty nice guy (i always thought).
pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#22
It's a political view, hardly a polarizing one either. Waste of time topic.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9036 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#23
He's already temp banned from TL. That's enough imo.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#24
Someone said something that wasn't PC on the internet! SOUND THE ALARMS! ALERT THE WORLD LEADERS! DOOMSDAY IS COMING!

Seriously? I can't believe in this day and age that people would get so worked up about something someone said on the internet. Especially something like that. Should he probably keep that kind of stuff to himself to help with his own professional image and team's image? Definitely, but I don't see how it's any different than any other stupid bull shit that's been happening on the internet since it's inception.
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
September 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#25
This thread only gives a bad image of Cloud and should be closed. I really think things like this are unnecessary. You should not start a crusade against him like this.

However, the only fault of Cloud is to express his opinion under the tag of his team.
Towni
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria144 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#26
i like em. i especially like all kind of people on this planet btw. gypsies ftw:

[image loading]

Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#27
On September 28 2011 19:56 RmoteCntrld wrote:
When did gypsies become a race? I think the word you're looking for is prejudice. Anyways I don't live in Europe so who knows he could be right about gypsies


...

so if you've never met a particular ethnicity of humans, but someone tells you we should kill them all indiscriminately, you'd believe him?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#28
On September 28 2011 19:57 Allwars wrote:
This thread only gives a bad image of Cloud and should be closed. I really think things like this are unnecessary. You should not start a crusade against him like this.

However, the only fault of Cloud is to express his opinion under the tag of his team.


yepyep

how dare we call out people who espouse genocide

do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 11:03:50
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#29
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Thug[ro]
Profile Joined October 2005
Romania340 Posts
September 28 2011 10:58 GMT
#30
this cloud guy is a morron
well i guess i can say let's all be terrorists and kill italians cuz they suck at driving cars!

User was warned for this post
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
September 28 2011 10:59 GMT
#31
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BearDK
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark101 Posts
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#32
If he wants to be a dick, let him be a dick. It's not like the gypsies care about what he says.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 11:03:23
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#33
On September 28 2011 19:55 Tofugrinder wrote:
the right thing to do from aTn's point of view would be to immediately release him from the team. But we all know that this won't happen..


cloud lives with the teammanager in same house ^^

cloud has a big .... temperament. you should not take him to serious

... well theres a reason such things should stay out of esport forums.... all kinds of persons play sc2 also some that feels rly different then others and such aereas about politic etc should not be in the same forum then esports stuff
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#34
On September 28 2011 19:59 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:56 Kraznaya wrote:
On September 28 2011 19:55 Sated wrote:
Gypsy isn't a race. Hence, the comments aren't racist.


Advocating discrimination, and genocide, against ethnicities is wrong no matter what word choice lawyering you try to do.

The Jewish ethnicity isn't a race either.

I didn't say it was right, I said it wasn't racist.


so what's the purpose of your post? discrimination against ethnicities is just as wrong as discrimination against races. there's nothing wrong with racism being conflicted with discrimination against ethnicities, because they amount to the same thing
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 11:02:27
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#35
If you want pros to reply on forums like this, you should not single out their posts when they voice their opinion on non game related stuff.

You can agree/disagree with him in that particular topic, but making a topic about it is just lame.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
September 28 2011 11:00 GMT
#36
On September 28 2011 19:54 clazerxsniper wrote:
unless you've had gypsies steal from and met them face to face, i would recommend not giving your opinion on this.


My ex girlfriend is a gypsy. Clouds comments are bollocks.

Ironic how he scoffs at people bringing out the 'nazi card' when he says above that the 'solution' is to kill as many as you can. He could claim that was a (really awful?) joke, but combined with the 'plague on humanity' stuff it starts to look like straight up racism.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#37
On September 28 2011 19:57 Allwars wrote:
This thread only gives a bad image of Cloud and should be closed. I really think things like this are unnecessary. You should not start a crusade against him like this.

However, the only fault of Cloud is to express his opinion under the tag of his team.

of course he gets bad image. I really hope so - if he's making that kind of racist comments at least I hope he looses lots of his fans. On TL he only got a 2 day ban so that won't effect him at all

This should made public (e.g. this thread) so that people know who Cloud really is
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#38
On September 28 2011 20:00 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:59 Sated wrote:
On September 28 2011 19:56 Kraznaya wrote:
On September 28 2011 19:55 Sated wrote:
Gypsy isn't a race. Hence, the comments aren't racist.


Advocating discrimination, and genocide, against ethnicities is wrong no matter what word choice lawyering you try to do.

The Jewish ethnicity isn't a race either.

I didn't say it was right, I said it wasn't racist.


so what's the purpose of your post? discrimination against ethnicities is just as wrong as discrimination against races. there's nothing wrong with racism being conflicted with discrimination against ethnicities, because they amount to the same thing


he just called him out on a wrong usage of terms, he didnt judge whether it made it better or worse at all, calm down
beep boop
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#39
On September 28 2011 19:55 Boblion wrote:
It has nothing to do with Sc2, why are you making this thread if you want "to keep eSports unpolitical" ?
You are making a thread to get him banned from all tournaments ? Really ?


What I meant with that is that I have my own political opinions and might express them in discussions on TL, but I don't want to generally politicize eSports.
But should players be allowed to publicly state blatently racist things? In EVERY other sport that would not be tolerated for one minute by a professional team, but hey, this is the internet, so what right?
So of course this does matter, so long as eSports matter.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 28 2011 11:01 GMT
#40
On September 28 2011 19:54 clazerxsniper wrote:
unless you've had gypsies steal from and met them face to face, i would recommend not giving your opinion on this.

That thing happens all day every day in my hometown and I know what it looks like. I won't give that much of a detailed comment on the issue itself, but what cloud says is damn true. There might be some issues with his wording of choice, but what he says is true. They literally make a living off criminal act.
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