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"I'm to old to get any good at this game"
"The younger you are, the more able you are to pick things up"
"I wish I had started earlier"
"I've played for too long"
"I use to be really good"
"If I hadn't lost the spark.."
Although I'm mainly referring to the older group of gamers and such, y"all can't stay young forever ~~~
People tend to do things better when they can relate certain things to themselves, so I wanted to motivate you guy's who blame your age when it comes to improving.
Slayer Boxer- A man we all respect for his creativity, innovation, and the way he turns a game around when all hope was lost.
Did you know during the time he won the World Cyber Game's he was 21 years. The game came out in 98, that means he started sc at age 18.
Nestea- Currently probably the best sc2 player in the world. He's 28 and kicking butt.
Shinichi Suzuki- The world class violinist and teacher who created his own method which is almost the staple way to learn violin across the world. He was self taught starting at age 17 only listening to records and at age 22 when he started to take lessons, his teacher was surprised Suzuki had learned so much by himself.
Allen Doyle- Professional golfer, now a senior professional golfer. He became pro at age 45, he's won the 2006 senior open making him the oldest pro golfer to had done that.
Steve Harris "Iron Maiden's bass player"- He started playing bass at age 17.
*Write below some famous people who started late as well
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tbh none of your examples carry weight, and when they are relevant they are the exception.
as far as sc2, boxer has honed his mechanics for 10+ years, nestea similarly.
pointing out a prodigies to use for your example alienates the average guy and is evidence for your counter argument
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boxer won broodwar's wcg in 3 years of release of the game
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thats very nice and great and impressive during his early 20s but isnt your point that old people can pick up and become competitive at rts games?
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Surprised no one has mentioned White-Ra? He's the oldest SC2 pro player, iirc.
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Why ya gotta be like that, Kokujin? I think this is a great thread providing motivation for people who may be disheartened to put effort into something because it seems like everybody else has such a huge head start. I know as a drummer who got into it pretty late (age 16) it was pretty tough for me to play next to all the guys who had been drumming since they could walk. However, it's things like the information above that kept me motivated to practice more and more, and now I'm an actively gigging music major. TIME DOES NOT INDICATE YOUR SKILL LEVEL. It's simply dedication. A person halfheartedly practicing for 10 years is most likely less skilled than someone who put in a serious effort for just one year. You can get freakishly good at something in quite a short period of time (relatively), it's all about how much you dedicate yourself. Does it happen often? No. Because it's friggin hard. But anybody can potentially do it.
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Most of those examples aren't really starting late besides the golfer. Those are people who started reasonably early but are still going today.
I'd consider myself more of a late starter. 29 years old, never really played RTS games until sc2 was released. Learning and having fun to boot.
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On September 13 2011 12:34 Jaxtyk wrote:
Nestea is 30 i thought
in Korean age yes. 28 by foreign standards.
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Umm I think you are arguing against your point with those examples. They were all quite young when they started playing w/e they do. Yes they are old NOW but have been playing and learning for 10+ years.
A better example for your point would be someone who had no previous experience in a field, started at the age of 30 and was able to catch up to people who have 10+ years of experience.
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it makes me sad you forgot the "granddaddy toss" white-ra, 31 i believe? And he just won IPL season 2
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I don't think age affects very much in SC2, except at the pro level. SC1 was a different story because of the high apm requirements.
I think its more about how *intense* you've played RTS in your lifetime. It seems like its carpal tunnel that forces players to retire from competitive gaming, not necessarily age. It just so happens the older you get, the more vulnerable you get to it.
If there were more 30+ year olds picking up the game out of the blue then I'm sure they'd do fine against a kid with an equal amount of experience. It just so happens that most serious players are in the 15-25 age group who grew up on BW/War3.
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FDR didn't start being President until 51, and he was the first President Bonjwa. The only time he didn't defend his presidency (I believe it was the Shinhan Bank Presidency), was because he DIED.
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hahaha
User was warned for this post
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On September 13 2011 12:50 Datum wrote:
FDR didn't start being President until 51, and he was the first President Bonjwa. The only time he didn't defend his presidency (I believe it was the Shinhan Bank Presidency), was because he DIED.
That shit is intense.
Old people hwaiting!
(On-topic - Practice equals results, and your mindset or approach to learning -should- be more important than your age. Where younger people theoretically have giant sponges for brains, dem aging people should have the wisdom of the ages, which grants a +5 to kickass and +3 to willpower)
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Boxer and Nestea are horrible examples. Nestea has been playing for ages and just understands the game better than most others. Boxer had been playing for 3 years because the game had only been out of such a short time and thus was so volatile (he was just ahead of the curve, much like nestea generally is right now, especially in ZvZ)
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makes me sad when you are calling people who are 17-22 old..... =(
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Old guys like me have jobs, kids, and wives. We can still get pretty good, but we're at a huge disadvantage in comparison to someone in their teens or in college. It really comes down to time, priorities, and readily available practice partners/coaches.
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On September 13 2011 12:52 retRed wrote:
hahaha
Did we all just get trolled or is this guy just stupid?
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On September 13 2011 13:07 vol_ wrote:Did we all just get trolled or is this guy just stupid?
Both is my thought
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