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My second published map Trichite
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eOPiP.jpg)
Description:
- 3 spawn 1v1 map.
- Natural is easy to take.
- Option of 3rd's! Low money high ground with rocks defending, or normal money mid-ground third that opens up a wider ramp.
- 3 Xel'naga towers on the low ground attack paths, a longer attack path is availuable if your opponent owns the tower between you.
- 15 bases, 3 of them being 6 mineral 1 gas bases. No golds.
Tileset:
- Shakuras Bricks
- Shakuras Hextiles
- Zakul'das Mercury Cracks
- Zakul'das Dark Rock
- Avernus Dirt
- Ulnar Hull 1, 2, and 3.
Theme:
Definetly intended to be a dark map. Colors that stick out are black and neon green. Lighting is also dark green, with bloom to accentuate the green flames found around the map.
Both the tileset and the doodads involve the Xel'Naga.
Lots of obelisks with flames on them :D
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Making of the Map:
Sadly I neglected taking screenshots at the begining stages of the map, but at first it looked nothing like this, trust me. Actaully, when i first was designing the layout, I only realized as i was making each players third base that the map scale was ridiculusly huge, and had to start over.
For a good guide on 3 way symetry: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=193415
Origin of Name:
For future reference, it is pronounced Tri-Kite not Tri-Chite. Meaning: any of various needle-shaped crystals that occur in some glassy volcanic rocks , I thought it fit.
Full view, slanted, and 1/3 of map:
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/i8sJp.jpg) Slanted view, for the record large circles will create headaches while maping. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OrU6b.jpg) Full 90 view, do you think theres too much water? Kinda jumps out at me. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dVzvA.jpg) Top 1/3 of the map, The main in the top, natural on mid-ground between the two possible thirds. Third base on the low ground blocked by rocks, destroying them will open the attack path. Also visable is the low ground, where you can see 2 of 3 xel'naga watchtowers.
Wall off (protoss):
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RJJEw.jpg) Same wall off is viable on all spawn locations.
Some pretty pic's:
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/doIwU.jpg) Center of the map, kinduv a floaty obelisk thing with some glowy hexagons :D. Fun fact: Hexagons are perfect for 3 way symetry. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xS7Nw.jpg) Low ground fourth base, creepy fog with glowy crystals.
Analyzer:
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RJVgc.jpg) There is a set of rocks in the north, didnt pick up on it though.
Im looking for feedback! Posting "cool map bro" is NOT what im looking for! The map will be uploaded to Battle.net under the name "Trichite". Search for it in game and play against your friends, or message me in-game to play on it against me, Glitch.609. Im currently demoted to high diamond, but was a low masters player in season 2.
Whether you have played the map or not, if you have suggestions on ballance or anything:
- Post it here,
- Email it to Sc2Glitch@gmail.com
- Message me in game, again Glitch.609
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
I don't like how u placed the mineral lines - there needs to be space behind for turrents / mobile AA (and to prevent f.e. a MULE getting stucked) and this also helps against drops behind the mineral line. Main minerals with the back to the mid leaves the base kinda vulnerable. Will be very very hard to defend vs early tank pushes / bunkers there with reapers jumping up and down. As whole some of the expos feel a little cramped. Other than this proportions are kinda ok but i don't if you can fix the space issue within ur current map bounds.
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Holy 4-base turtleopolis!
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Some extra space behind the minerals can definetly be done. Having the main bases minerals facing the middle just kinda happend, i have to agree that leaves your workers ridiculusly open to... anything really.
Ty ty :D
Edit: @IronMan, do you think? i tried to make it so holding all 4 of those would be pretty tough, as there would be 3 attack paths. albiet one with rocks.
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I would do something about the expo's they're SUPER easy to take, imgaine a protoss, sitting on 4 basses then pushing out?
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Thanks for pointing out the "turtlyness" :D. Im new to map-making, so i definetly value the feedback. In my attempt to make the map very macro orientated, i seem to have made the expansions to easily defended.
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
Don't get me wrong - for your 2nd map it's pretty good but has for sure some issues. You'll improve with further maps/reworks 
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First revision:
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-Rotated Minerals in main and moved farther back from center.
-Made small ramp leading to center wider (taking the 8 mineral third harder)
-Put High ground 6 mineral third on the low ground, now destroying the rocks to place a cc/nex/hatch will also open the attack path.
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get rid of the High ground 3rd next to the natural and make it into an island much farther to the edge(that will get rid of some of the water) or you can make it into a semisland, but make sure its far away enuf so that tank drops wont do anything
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This is sort of how I would change it. I'm by no means a pro map maker, so if someone calls me out on something you should probably listen to them.
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Unfortunately, this would make the middle very narrow...
Hmmmm...
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Second Revision:
- Mid-Ground third now put on low ground and in the center.
This took some thought, even after placing the high ground third on low ground and adding rocks, this third was still to easy to defend. Putting it on the low ground pretty much makes it a fourth base, and mixes up the spawn locations in a bit. What i mean by that is that if you spawn with your enemy to your left, taking the low ground base in the middle will be alot harder then taking the 6 mineral low ground base with the rocks. Whearas the player on your left will have a slightly harder time holding his 6 mineral base. The unltamate downfall of rotational symetry.
Heres a new 90 degree view for clarification: + Show Spoiler +
- The second, and more simple change, was taking the Xel'naga towers off of that high ground spot. It was to large of an obstruction to that attack path, and created a very narrow choke between it and the high ground north of it. Now its on the ground, surrounded by LOS blockers.
As for making the third an island to block out some of that excess water, im all for island expansions, but dont think a third base should be one. IMO island's are meant for the late game, where taking an extra safe base is important. Early game i forsee difficulty's with players (particularly protoss and somewhat zerg) not having gone down the tech path to get drops and get that third.
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Looks interesting. Nice symmetry. I'd like to see a closer zoom in so I can take a better look at the details.
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Lol makes me think of razer looking at this map. Good overall architecture.
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On August 13 2011 10:59 t1mid wrote:
Lol makes me think of razer looking at this map. Good overall architecture.
The Razer logo would make quite the interesting 3 player map... perhaps another day...
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i don't like how all bases needed are positioned close to your base. it is like a fortress, you do not have to move out to take more bases.
i do not understand why you created a positional imbalance with different ramp sizes in clockwise and ccw direction.
please add an analyzer image to help us read your layout. textures are rather dark.
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i don't like how all bases needed are positioned close to your base. it is like a fortress, you do not have to move out to take more bases.
Hopefully i fixed this somewhat in the revisions.
please add an analyzer image to help us read your layout. textures are rather dark.
I would, but for the life of me i cant figure out the thing. Is there a guide on how to use it? i have downloaded it, but have no clue.
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Heres a space image, working on shortest paths (seriusly this analyzer is confuzing  )
ignore that there are no rocks in the north, there realy are  trust me.
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ok, quick analysis of problems in your layout:
- bases in centre are in very close distance and because of the map's small size are almost impossible to take at the same time. a tank standing at one cc could almost reach the other cc. maybe a pf has a chance though...
- main, nat and third can be defended from one position
- rotational imbalance due too different ramp sizes
- ccw expansion almost impossible, bad for zerg wanting to expand away and bad for terran to be forced to expand away when in cw position.
- the clockwise fourth might be siegable from the main?
nice that you are brave enough to take a shot at a 3player map, but there is a lot of problems to be solved in my opinion.
btw: please fix your mineral lines!
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I understand all of what you said except for:
•rotational imbalance due too different ramp sizes
Each base has 2 ramps to the low ground, one close to the natural that is 2width and one leading to the outer regions of the map that is 4 width. Im pretty sure that the closest attack path is from a 2width ramp to your oponents 2width ramp (all the ones closest to the center)
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