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Doz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 18:05:26
July 28 2011 02:56 GMT
#1
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A 1v1 rotationally symmetrical map with 4 starting bases. I had four goals for this map:
1) Make it my most balanced work yet
2) Make it my most detail map in terms of textures/doodads
3) Attempt to remove the typical 4-base rotational issues
4) Win MotM #8 and get it into a tournament map pool

I feel I've accomplished 1 and 2 (Thanks to monitor for your help in correcting some layout issues). Item #3 is debatable when you look at a map like Sanctuarium. Item #4, well we'll just have to wait and see how I do.

Side Note: There are a few secret messages around the map. If you can determine all 3 of them and PM me with the right answers, you'll win a nice little prize...

P.S. iGrok, I'm going to be upset if this doesn't meet next months criteria ;p

Map Info:
Size: 144x144 playable
Bases: 4 mains, 8 full expansions, 4 single gas expansions
Xel'Naga Towers: 4
Available for Play: NA
Tileset:
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Castanar Mesh
Braxis Alpha Plates
Castanar Grating
Port Zion Tiles
Castanar Metal
Monlyth Dirt
Braxis Alpha Metal Detail

Avernus Manmade Cliffs
Braxis Alpha Skybox/Parallax
Port Zion Ambience
Ulnar Lighting


Changelog:
V.4
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-Corrected several doodad issues that remained from previous terrain edits

V.3
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-removed terrain "spikes" near the middle
-moved several LOS blockers around the edges to more functional areas
-moved several other doodads.
-fixed minerals in main bases so probes can more easily move behind them.


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Overview
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Angled Overview
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Main/Nat/Third/Fourth
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Third/Fourth from Main
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Natural Choke Block
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Analyzer:
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As you can tell below, any of the small raised areas around the map that are largely covered in doodads have been no-pathed. Seige tanks on the low ground cannot hit the minerals lines of the counter-clockwise natural, but can hit just a tad bit of the wall-in at the natural choke.
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Now that I see these pictures up online, I'm disappointed with their quality. My computer is old as dirt at 4 years old and will hopefully be replaced soon. There's a lot more detail to the map than I think the pics above show.

I've gotten to play a few games of it online now and it's quite fun. I don't consider the project 100% complete as it still needs further testing, so please leave some feedback!
Check out my map thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192306
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
July 28 2011 03:13 GMT
#2
Quick iGrok, make MotM #8 require shifted symmetry!
Seriously though, nice work! My only complaint is that the main-nat-third set-up is bland and very common.
Also, the map seems pretty chokey, particularly in the center. Although it is possible that the middle setup will provide interesting battles, flanks seem very difficult and slow pushes seem very strong.
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Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
July 28 2011 03:39 GMT
#3
wow, that's a very good map
i really like it.
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
July 28 2011 05:03 GMT
#4
I won't comment on any balance issues because I'd rather play on it first before I do that (I'm on my laptop atm which doesn't have sc2 installed, so I'll probably try it out tomorrow) but I think I would like if you added some more texture variety to the map. The textures are done well but I feel like the ground itself all looks the same no matter where you go. Why not changing up the lowest ground bases to a rocky ground (think Odysses for instance) to make some certain points in this map "pop" out more to the player.

Then again, it might look amazing ingame and just the overview makes it look like it all blurs together. If that's the case, ignore this post and I'll comment on it tomorrow when I actually get some time to play on it.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
AaronJ
Profile Joined January 2011
United States90 Posts
July 28 2011 06:02 GMT
#5
Personally I'm hoping for 5 player maps this time so everyone's map will be bad and I will have a shot. Really good job though. Does seem somewhat chokey but its really well done.
Violence is never an option, unless he started it.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
July 28 2011 06:13 GMT
#6
reminds me of cybertron, good job on the textures.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 06:20:16
July 28 2011 06:19 GMT
#7
MotM #8 is 2p maps only...
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:p
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Doz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 13:34:36
July 28 2011 13:29 GMT
#8
On July 28 2011 15:19 iGrok wrote:
MotM #8 is 2p maps only...
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Crap.

WHY OH WHY?!?!
Check out my map thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192306
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
July 28 2011 14:19 GMT
#9
Don't worry, he's just trolling you. Month 8 is actually a 3p map month.

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NOPE!
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
Doz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States145 Posts
July 28 2011 14:26 GMT
#10
On July 28 2011 23:19 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Don't worry, he's just trolling you. Month 8 is actually a 3p map month.

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NOPE!



Award for most spoilers ever in a forum post.

Well done sir, well done
Check out my map thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192306
MDKnights23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States11 Posts
July 28 2011 14:28 GMT
#11
Mapmaking question. How do you create the floating islands?
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eTcetRa
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia822 Posts
July 28 2011 14:49 GMT
#12
Spoiler Pyramid ftw... NOPE!

Map looks good, buddy.

What floating islands are you referring to, MDKnights23?
Retired Mapmaker™
transience
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium74 Posts
July 28 2011 15:02 GMT
#13
Such superb use of colour! I hope you do well in MotM.
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
July 28 2011 15:53 GMT
#14
On July 28 2011 23:28 MDKnights23 wrote:
Mapmaking question. How do you create the floating islands?

Pick a tileset that has space as background (like any space platform type), remove all the terrain except for an island, there you go.
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
MDKnights23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States11 Posts
July 28 2011 17:37 GMT
#15
On July 28 2011 23:49 Holiver wrote:
Spoiler Pyramid ftw... NOPE!

Map looks good, buddy.

What floating islands are you referring to, MDKnights23?


Like areas on the edge of maps where units can't be. I'm talking about like the holes in the middle of the maps, and the edges of maps like delta quadrant. Thanks!
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Doz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States145 Posts
July 28 2011 18:07 GMT
#16
On July 29 2011 02:37 MDKnights23 wrote:
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On July 28 2011 23:49 Holiver wrote:
Spoiler Pyramid ftw... NOPE!

Map looks good, buddy.

What floating islands are you referring to, MDKnights23?


Like areas on the edge of maps where units can't be. I'm talking about like the holes in the middle of the maps, and the edges of maps like delta quadrant. Thanks!


Open a new map of either Avernus or Braxis Alpha. Under the Terrain height tab, select the "down" tool. Click anywhere on the map. Simple as that. Flop Turn had it right above
Check out my map thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192306
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 23:29:03
July 28 2011 23:28 GMT
#17
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alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
July 29 2011 00:19 GMT
#18
It's like a smaller Terminus without the free 3rd? Looks okay.
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LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
July 29 2011 02:45 GMT
#19
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^ This is how you make the floating platform type of map. Terrain Texture Sets in the data editor.


This map looks pretty nice, the spacing is really cool and I like how the combat areas change depending on spawns.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
July 29 2011 08:02 GMT
#20
That middle... a bit of a tower cluster going on there, I hope you put a lot of thought into that.

Overall solid map with nice, solid texturing. It will probably play out well. But nothing really interesting unfortunately I think since Crevasse/Tal'Darim/Terminus are so dominant in tournaments for so long now, new big 4spawn rotational maps have to do something really interesting to be worth it, like Ithaca, Green Harvest, Katrina, Othello etc
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
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