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On June 28 2011 13:46 youngminii wrote: Varpulis, you're a GMarshal clone, your post is exactly like his opening post. Which is pretty ironic if you put it that way. Anyway, I find myself really not understanding these early days. A few players like to make big posts about how town should play, what down should watch out for, pro-town environment etc but they pretty much all say the same thing. They all seem to have more purpose than content-- that is, they're supposed to establish the posters as big names for people to pay attention to or follow throughout the game. And to be honest, the showiness puts me off a bit. If you're just going to say what everyone's heard before, why do it so loudly? I promised myself I'd post my thoughts more, so there they are :B Lists are whatever, they just let blues who don't know what's going on fall into the hands of a) mafia or b) some nice green dude. | ||
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On June 28 2011 14:15 Sinani201 wrote: Sorry, bad formatting. Please change my name on the player list to "Nisani201 (Sinani201)" as that is what I should be known as throughout the game Also I'm probably just going to call you 201 because that other name is hard to remember and not at the top of all your posts! | ||
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On June 28 2011 17:04 GMarshal wrote: Hint mafia *isn't* spamming, they are making simple posts that aren't quite lurking, but that serve no purpose, fluffy posts to be clear. Isn't this exactly what he's accusing hiro of doing? The guy has ~7 posts in the thread, and as TAA points out most aren't stellar contributions. | ||
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On June 29 2011 22:55 DropBear wrote: WHY EIII IS MAFIA Eiii has a grand total of 5 posts in the thread to date. He is a member of the alarmingly fast bandwagon on Drazerk. He starts off with a bang! :D Wasn't that inspirational? I still don't understand why throwaway joke posts are included in these at all. Especially ones done right after the game starts, when a lot of people are generally just hanging out to read the first day post. If this is a significant piece of your case against me, then I think you need to reevaluate it entirely. If it's not, then why put in in the analysis? Anyway: On June 29 2011 22:55 DropBear wrote: Next is a brief attempt to get people to ignore Marshal. Don't worry about him at all! No, I'm not trying to get people to ignore what GM's saying, I'm calling him out on his BS insta-claim of vig or whatever while expressing my dislike for posts like that. Which leads into this next post... On June 29 2011 22:55 DropBear wrote: Everyone who has been accusing others of making contentless posts, I give you Fluff 101 by it's Honorary Professor, Eiii! He brings up "pro-town play", lists and flashy posters yet fails to give any opinion on whether he likes or dislikes them other than "puts me off a bit". You don't seem to want to tell us what you think Eiii! Your thoughts you promise are simply a list of all possible outcomes! This one's a piece of work. First you mention that I bring up 'pro-town play'-- you know, like some kind of scum who wants to fit in and look like they're contributing, so they talk about how everyone should be pro-town and whatever other shit. Except... I'm just paraphrasing others' posts when I use the phrase 'pro-town play'. This is just a post about other people's posts. And come on, you think I'm not taking a stance on this topic? The entire paragraph has a negative tone. I suppose next time I'll try for stronger language than 'puts me off a bit' so that anyone who just skims my posts looking for easy-to-jump on phrases has a bit of a harder time, eh? And yeah, that last bit just lists what lists *can* do. That was my point, and I should have made it better-- lists can help as much as they hurt, but as long as you have strong blues I don't think they'll do much of anything at all. I did! TAA accused hiro of making a few posts that didn't amount to anything, GM responded by saying 'mafia won't be spamming, they'll be making a few posts that don't amount to anything', so I figured I'd be helpful and let them know they were both on the same page ;3 On June 29 2011 22:55 DropBear wrote: I covered this in my analysis of the voting on Drazerk. His reason for voting Drazerk is completely contradictory to what is actually happening! I disagree! Just as I thought the draz voting was starting to warm up, I see sandroba and hiro pretty much back-to-back start really arguing for 206 and syll, respectively, instead of arguing for/against the draz lynch. That looked to me like it could me scum trying to pull people to vote for someone else. I honestly don't know what to think about draz/VE/206 atm. I feel like draz has mostly fallen off the table, and people make good arguments as to why he's not scum. VE was not on my radar at all before this wagon started on him, but maybe that just means he was doing a good job lurking. 206 looked like a spammy/disinterested town to me. I'll change my vote in an hour or two, or explain why I haven't if I think draz is still the best candidate. | ||
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206 still looks like a spammy/disinterested town. VE, on the other hand, manages to argue with people and comment on happenings without ever saying a word. I'm sold, he's got my vote for today. | ||
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I'd rather look at the plausability of VE's DT claim-- he said he wrote the draz post as soon as he got the result back, and the post went up at 2:37. So he probably sent the investigation in at about 14:00 the previous day. His only posts that day, though, are at about 9:30... so if he actually sent the investigation in then, it would come back at 21:30. His first post today was at 1:30, promising an analysis that came at 2:30. ...so it looks like that part of the story checks out. | ||
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Why do dropbear and draz simultaneously start calling 206 and 201 Henry VI and Edward the First? I never really got it in the first place, but both nicknames happen within four posts of each other (as far as I can tell). | ||
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Chaos13 and hiro's behavior around the time when the draz wagon was picking up is what stood out to me the most during the last readthrough. Like I said before, I feel like people were trying to focus attention elsewhere as draz started to get some votes; One of them was hiro, with his sudden pressure on syll. He doesn't talk about draz at all, until: On June 29 2011 08:20 hiro protagonist wrote: unvote syllogism OK, thanks for the input. I look forward to hearing your reasons for your vote. As for Drazerk, he has not been my radar. I will go back though his post and let you know what I think. Of course, his thoughts never show up in the thread. After TAA dies, he sticks his vote on Draz and then just disappears. That's all for hiro, really, but between his low profile and his behavior around this lynch, I definitely think he's someone we should keep an eye on. Chaos does some pressuring, but it looks pretty normal and he backs off after getting a response. He refuses to mention draz as well, until things are well underway: On June 29 2011 11:56 chaos13 wrote: He's starting to agree with the lynch, so he's on everyone else's side but... oh man, look at all these weaknesses in the bandwagon! Is this really a good idea?I'm beginning to agree about Drazerk, but there are a few questions I have regarding that: 1. How do we know he is just not noob town? Has he played much before? 2. Why is there no resistance to his lynch party? 3. If he is mafia, you would think his scumbuddies would be helping him improve his posting. Ironically, by putting it out there that there's no resistance to the lynch in such a sneaky way he's trying to provide exactly the resistance that he says is lacking. Chaos later goes on to vote for VE. He even makes this post about how he wants to avoid lynching a dt... but he keeps his vote on VE anyway, even though his logic seems to assuming that VE actually *is* DT. Neither hiro nor chaos look good to me right now, but after researching this and writing it all up I'm most confident in saying that chaos13 is scum. Bedtime! | ||
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Anyway, town seems to have lost focus between the GM ordeal and everything else. I think all that needs to be said is that he's used the pressure as an excuse to completely stop contributing analysis or anything at all apart from 'shoot me', which is extremely scummy in my eyes. We can lynch him today, but I'd rather just pretend that every non-useful post of his in the thread doesn't exist so we can focus on more interesting targets. I'm still curious to see what other people have to say about chaos/hiro. I don't think the case against 206 is too strong, he just feels like bad town to me. | ||
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I still don't see the 201 reasoning. Yes, people have accused him, but I feel he got pressure put on him more because he's a spammy player that doesn't really do anything than that he had done anything particularly scummy (which I don't think he has). YM seems to have an aggressive style that might be easy to make look scummy in an analysis, so for me the jury's out on him for the time being. I'm going to stick to hiro, because he's someone I looked into a lot. I think he's a good lynch. ##vote hiro | ||
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I'm totally down for 24h days, and am just gonna vote for hiro again. | ||
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On July 02 2011 18:40 Palmar wrote: I don't know. Maybe you should give this some more thought Eiii, do you really think Wiggles would be pushing the hiro alternative if they're the two remaining scum? But then again, maybe you're a good lynch. can you really say that the scum team has made a bunch of reasonable, non-super-risky plays this game? Would a scum team that's completely fucked do anything in their power to make their remaining team member look town? I'm going to just ignore the wifom and vote for hiro (for now), who I was on before. ...I'm voting so early because I've gotten killed like a million times for not voting on the last day of the game. I'm not letting that happen again >:| but my vote is subject to change depending on what shit goes down. | ||
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