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[NASL] July awarded 2-0 victory over White-Ra

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 20:27:22
April 13 2011 20:12 GMT
#1
Source: NASL

It appears that some unfortunate scheduling problems have occurred in the April 13th NASL match between (P)White-Ra and (Z)July. As a result, July has been awarded a 2-0 forfeit victory in their match. NASL explained the decision as follows:

We hope this post will explain our decision to award a forfeit win to July. White-Ra informed us that he would be at the Dreamhack Invitational on Tuesday April 12th, which conflicted with his NASL game vs July. We knew there would be a problem only if he made it to the final, which he did.
I asked the Dreamhack organizers if they would keep one computer up for White-Ra to play his match, and they declined, understandably, as they had to pack up their equipment and shut off the internet. We discussed postponing it, but that is something we really can’t do with such an aggressive broadcast schedule.

SjoW had a similar situation to White-Ra as he was also participating in the event. SjoW informed us that there was a LAN center close by to the Dreamhack venue that the matches could be played from. SjoW managed to make arrangements to show up in order to play his match. After two emails and a phone call to White-Ra, I heard no response.
After four hours of waiting, we gave July the choice to take a free win or reschedule. Understandably, July chose to take the win, after waking up at 4:00 am to play his match and waiting patiently for 4 hours for White-Ra to become available.

Because we had been in communication with White-Ra, we extended our 45 minute grace period to 4 hours. We are very sorry to both White-Ra, July, and the fans for this situation but it would be unfair at this point to allow a reschedule after July waited so long.

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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 20:15:28
April 13 2011 20:14 GMT
#2
This is... unfortunate.

It's a shame more couldn't be done to work out the schedule (not saying NASL is responsible since they clearly tried to contact Whitera multiple times). I thought all these big tournies were going to go out of their way to not step on eachothers toes?
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 13 2011 20:15 GMT
#3
A 4 hour wait period seems more than fair.
secret - never again
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
April 13 2011 20:15 GMT
#4
This is where that refundable deposit comes in for the league right? Wonder how much he is going to get fined.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
April 13 2011 20:16 GMT
#5
Wow, that really sucks.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 13 2011 20:16 GMT
#6
too bad, too bad though white ra can still make it out, so no worries people
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Natsumar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States91 Posts
April 13 2011 20:16 GMT
#7
Well it's hard for NASL seeing as how it's on pretty much every day. Plus white-Ra obviously didn't expect to make it to the finals.
Woah guys, this is where it gets tricky. Because right now we're behind in every conceivable aspect [...] The only thing we're not behind in is micro. Right? We got tons of that shit.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 13 2011 20:16 GMT
#8
Unfortunate, but understandable. I was really looking forward to that series.

Good thing it is only one series in 10.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 20:18:36
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#9
On April 14 2011 05:15 ImHuko wrote:
This is where that refundable deposit comes in for the league right? Wonder how much he is going to get fined.



Probably not too much, White-Ra had to probably take a flight right after Dreamhack while Sjow lives in Sweden iirc. Sucks we don't get to see those two clash but oh well plenty of other games!
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LightWireEX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States387 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#10
Unfortunate, but understandable. Just lame for Liquibets. :<
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#11
It's really unfortunate, but I agree with the decision.

July waiting for 4 hours also shows he wasn't just wanting an easy win, he was open minded, good guy :}

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
YouthSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom355 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#12
This seems reasonable =(

Too bad WhiteRa didn't notice the LAN center =(
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Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#13
Perfectly adequate reasoning. Hope this won't turn into a shit storm like most things do on the internet.
It is what it is...
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#14
AHHHHHH thats the game i wanted to see the most !!!!
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#15
Incoming people that hate on July because he "is too scared" to play against WhiteRa.
CarachAngren
Profile Joined January 2011
United States84 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#16
Yeah, it's unfortunate but its only one match out of many great games to come in the NASL. It's always going to be difficult with players from different corners of the world.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#17
July waiting from 4 am to 8 am, wow respect. I would have whined my ass off.
Thunderflesh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States382 Posts
April 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#18
Too bad! But completely understandable on the part of NASL; I think this was a fair decision.
You'll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
April 13 2011 20:18 GMT
#19
Damn, that was the best game of the group
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 13 2011 20:18 GMT
#20
Yeah that's really sad. I suppose these things happen though. Didn't... Kyrix? Or maybe it was MarineKing... someone showed up really late for their GSL match in like GSL2 and they nearly gave it to the other person.
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