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On April 15 2011 20:11 Jate wrote:
"After two emails and a phone call to White-Ra, I heard no response."
Wow that's a lot of effort looking for someone important(sarcastic of cause : P )
sorry, i just read the topic and reply, havent read the whole threat yet.
Has Whitera said anything respond to this, i am pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding.
Why would not he play ? no reason not playing imo.
Also he's there, just check his flight, check the airport, call other player "have you seen white ra"
Rule is Rule, i do not go against it, white ra did not show up, forfeit.
But did you really put that much effort finding him ?
2 mails 1 call and just chill, waiting for something to happen.
nah next time, just put more effort.
White-Ra went out partying instead, check a few posts back for photos. I not on either players side but I still disagree with July's decision to take an easy win. I can understand though why everyone feel he deserves it, but NASL should have not made him wait that long.
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Yah kinda sucks the best two series were forfeits white-ra vs july and naniwa vs strelok 
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On April 15 2011 20:26 gm.tOSS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:22 samaNo4 wrote:
They don't have to put effort to find him, he has to put effort to be in time.
Fixed schedule, minimum 2 weeks in advance for any need of reschedule. Match time, doesn't show -> wait X stipulated time, doesn't show yet? Free win.
It's not that difficult, really. They could have easily rescheduled the game in advance when White Ra notified them about the possible overlap if he reaches the finals. NASL left it up to chance.
I was replying the guy who said, go to look for him at the airport, at the bars...yeah sure call the FBI.
Yes, they failed there, and the fail was not to have clear rules, that's where the second part of my point aims at.
Make some rules, show them to the players, set a day when the rules will begin to be applied and that's it.
Exemple, as before:
In case you have a major problem that doesn't let you play, being it one of these stipulated: Major Tourney, Illness, Family affairs, etc.
These issues have to be notified at least X weeks in case of tournamnet, 1 week before in case of familiar issue, as soon as possible for illness (if possible).
Other issues not written in the rules will be studied by the organizers and given a decision about the possibility of rescheduling the match.
Breaking these rules will be penalized with the loss of the game by 2-0 plus another free loss giving a total of -3.
The rules will start to be applied on 30th of april 2011.
As an example, clear but at the same time not hard rules, easy to follow but hard on their penalties to be able to have a smooth league.
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Poor July, waiting 4 hours. D:
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I guess its fair, since making someone wake up early and wait is bad, cause i wouldnt want that.
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why is this still an argument? This is as fair as fair can be. Moving on!
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On April 16 2011 11:30 mprs wrote:
why is this still an argument? This is as fair as fair can be. Moving on!
I think it was completely unfair, as was the Naniwa situation.
But yes, life goes on.
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I understand the reason for awarding it to July, although it would have been nice to see them both compete against eachother. It would be nice to see them compete.
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On April 16 2011 11:33 PraetorianX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 11:30 mprs wrote:
why is this still an argument? This is as fair as fair can be. Moving on! I think it was completely unfair, as was the Naniwa situation. But yes, life goes on.
How was this in unfair?
a person doesn't shop up within time, other person gets the win.
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On April 16 2011 00:16 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:11 Jate wrote:
"After two emails and a phone call to White-Ra, I heard no response."
Wow that's a lot of effort looking for someone important(sarcastic of cause : P )
sorry, i just read the topic and reply, havent read the whole threat yet.
Has Whitera said anything respond to this, i am pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding.
Why would not he play ? no reason not playing imo.
Also he's there, just check his flight, check the airport, call other player "have you seen white ra"
Rule is Rule, i do not go against it, white ra did not show up, forfeit.
But did you really put that much effort finding him ?
2 mails 1 call and just chill, waiting for something to happen.
nah next time, just put more effort.
White-Ra went out partying instead, check a few posts back for photos. I not on either players side but I still disagree with July's decision to take an easy win. I can understand though why everyone feel he deserves it, but NASL should have not made him wait that long.
so it's somehow july's fault when whitera is out partying instead of playing his scheduled match? what? july waited 4 hours let alone waking up at 4 am in the morning to be ready for his match
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Nothing wrong with this getting veto'd and July taking a free win. It's a shame they didn't get to play but people saying the NASL didn't try hard enough is laughable. The match was scheduled. A player didn't show up. Player who did show up collects a free win. This is how most tournaments go. This should be no exception, it's unfortunate, because I'm a White-Ra fan, but the rules are the rules.
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I don't quite understand why there is 39 pages. White-Ra didn't show up. JulyZerg did. what else is there to post? Every pro who enters a tournament knows their obligation and has to make an educated decision or uneducated decision on which tournament they should choose to participate in.
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Sounds reasonable. There was a risk, and he/the NASL took it.
They can both learn from this, and take into account such risks in the future. Perhaps allowing a 2 hour max delay, else it's a loss. That would mean in the players case that they need to bring a laptop, or check out if there's a place nearby with internet and/or computer access. Something like that.
It's a shame 'cause I was curious about said match up. But I think the NASL did a good job.
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This is such an unfortunate incident...
I think there may have been some miscommunications between nasl and white-ra before dreamhack, because he said on his stream that he assumed the match would be resheduled.
I don't disagree with the nasl giving the win to July, but perhaps they could extend the same courtesy to white-ra as they did to naniwa. Give july the win but don't count the loss to white-ra.
Just my opinion though.
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lol 39 pages for a win in a 10 player group. TL community love drama!
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fair is fair, NASL team took a rational and reasonable decision
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July clearly didnt want to get free win as he was waiting for oh so long.
Feeling sorry for white ra but well, he knew if he gets to the finals he wont be able to do it.
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i think NASL should give july the wins, because now he looks like he took the easy way out<_<
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On April 16 2011 00:16 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:11 Jate wrote:
"After two emails and a phone call to White-Ra, I heard no response."
Wow that's a lot of effort looking for someone important(sarcastic of cause : P )
sorry, i just read the topic and reply, havent read the whole threat yet.
Has Whitera said anything respond to this, i am pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding.
Why would not he play ? no reason not playing imo.
Also he's there, just check his flight, check the airport, call other player "have you seen white ra"
Rule is Rule, i do not go against it, white ra did not show up, forfeit.
But did you really put that much effort finding him ?
2 mails 1 call and just chill, waiting for something to happen.
nah next time, just put more effort.
White-Ra went out partying instead, check a few posts back for photos. I not on either players side but I still disagree with July's decision to take an easy win. I can understand though why everyone feel he deserves it, but NASL should have not made him wait that long.
Those photos doesn't prove anything without context.
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