• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:32
CET 17:32
KST 01:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book9Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info6herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1590 users

[NASL] July awarded 2-0 victory over White-Ra - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
787 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 38 39 40 Next All
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#81
;; the only reason I had for tuning in today
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
April 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#82
really professionaly done ! gj nasl i totally agree with this decision
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
April 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#83
Its an unfortunate case, but with a 4 hour wait period - you cant really blame them

I have a feeling this will happen more often with all the new tournaments popping up.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
April 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#84
On April 14 2011 05:35 starcraft911 wrote:
I'm very dissapointed with this decision. If white-ra simply no showed without letting anyone know then yes, by all means dq him, but this sounds like something that the NASL knew ahead of time. They could have easily made an exception and moved the match either ahead or back.

This has nothing to do with it being july vs white-ra... even if it was 2 random no names I'd say the same thing, but because it's two very promising players it makes it worse as a spectator because this was the highlight match of the day

This is one of those times when common sense needs to be used rather than going by the book. If your rule book isn't written in a way that protects against situations like this then it should be.

I feel like I was robbed because you guys are being sticklers. Reminds me of when people were getting DQd for saying ppp or not typing pp in the proper way. Rediculous.

It wasn't impossible for White-ra to play his game as Sjow did. White-ra didn't make the effort to get in contact with the NASL, or get to a computer to play his game.

Also remember, the players are not the only ones in the game, the 2 NASL spectators have to be in it too... that's why there is a schedule and rules, it's not so easy to reschedule because there will be game happening in the hours before July v White-ra and in the hours after.
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 20:40:47
April 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#85
edit: no read all sry
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
April 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#86
On April 14 2011 05:35 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 05:21 masterbreti wrote:
see i don't understand why this wasn't solved beforehand. why not try and make sure that everyone who was playing in dh would not be playing the same day as they would be nasl. does not make sense, and poor planning by nasl.

i assume they would not ask players in gsl to do this. so why does it fall on white-ra. this is nasl's fault

The NASL has had 50 players scheduled for games for a month of so now

Dreamhack announced their invites for their day long tournament a week or two ago.

Grow up


You do realize the NASL is pre-recorded right? White-ra and july could have played their games 2 weeks ago and we would have not been the wiser.

This problem was 110% avoidable if the people running the NASL had some foresight. If the games were played live I would concede that they made the right choice, but the reality of the situation is that with it being pre-recorded they had many options to circumvent this problem.
opaque
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation89 Posts
April 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#87
Scheduling is bound to be an issue with the sheer amount of games being played. It is unfortunate, but not that concerning as long as it doesn't happen every other day.
What
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#88
Damn, that is unfortunate. I am sure that would of been an entertaining series to watch. Hopefully this doesnt end up making the difference between Whitera making past the group stages or not. That would be sad.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 13 2011 20:41 GMT
#89
dont like decision ...
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 13 2011 20:41 GMT
#90
its so bad that you cant postpone... destroys so many good games tt
Progamer
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 20:53:01
April 13 2011 20:41 GMT
#91
On April 14 2011 05:31 disco wrote:
I can't understand why, when everything is prerecorded, there isn't more flexibility for the players to schedule their matches like in the TSL.

In the current setting NASL rescheduling options are nothing like the TSL's. They have like 10 staff with all kinds of high end equipment that all need to be there at a certain time preferably during their regular hours etc etc.

Also their schedule is much more brutal and scheduling conflicts will not end here. If they reschedule this one they pretty much have to comply to a lot of others as well.
Administrator
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
April 13 2011 20:41 GMT
#92
That seems fair. Props to July for waiting for 4 hours he must have more patience then I do.

Its unfortunate but these things happen.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
April 13 2011 20:41 GMT
#93
As long as the liquibet counts as 0 (because I voted WhiteRa), I will be okay with this. Hahah

Too bad. That was going to be an exciting game I bet!
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
April 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#94
The right decision. Its too bad for everyone involved but they have a schedule to keep.
RIP MBC Game Hero
Jarmam
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark140 Posts
April 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#95
Well, there goes the only exciting game out the window due to... something. No worries, tho, White-Ra seems like the kind of guy who has a good reason.
"Freedom for Colossus" - White-Ra
MechaCthulhu
Profile Joined November 2010
United States136 Posts
April 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#96
On April 14 2011 05:40 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 05:35 Kazzabiss wrote:
On April 14 2011 05:21 masterbreti wrote:
see i don't understand why this wasn't solved beforehand. why not try and make sure that everyone who was playing in dh would not be playing the same day as they would be nasl. does not make sense, and poor planning by nasl.

i assume they would not ask players in gsl to do this. so why does it fall on white-ra. this is nasl's fault

The NASL has had 50 players scheduled for games for a month of so now

Dreamhack announced their invites for their day long tournament a week or two ago.

Grow up


You do realize the NASL is pre-recorded right? White-ra and july could have played their games 2 weeks ago and we would have not been the wiser.

This problem was 110% avoidable if the people running the NASL had some foresight. If the games were played live I would concede that they made the right choice, but the reality of the situation is that with it being pre-recorded they had many options to circumvent this problem.


Yeah, because it was pre-recorded, they gave White-Ra four hours of leeway. A live tournament wouldn't have been able to do that.
That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#97
Unfortunate but the right decision has been made. Good on you NASL for your transparency and levelheadedness in dealing with this issue.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
April 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#98
That's unfortunate because it was the most exciting match for today. But totally understandable.
thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 20:43:46
April 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#99
Thanks for explaining this so well. This was the match I was most excited for tonight but these things happen.

Also props to July for waiting so long after getting up that early.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 13 2011 20:44 GMT
#100
How sad, really that match was the only real reason to watch NASL tonight. Respect to July for waking up at 4 AM (WTF?!) and stay up for 4 goddamn hours! That's amazing, and shows how important NASL is to July, and probably to all of ST.

Hell, I whine like a girl when they wake me up at 4 to admit some kid to the hospital. I know I'd never wake up for SC. Either stay up or sleep. Waking up is just horrible
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 38 39 40 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 123
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4093
Bisu 2628
Flash 1454
firebathero 1282
Larva 886
Mini 482
EffOrt 442
Hyuk 391
ZerO 352
actioN 254
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 200
Rush 198
ggaemo 161
Sharp 139
hero 130
Mong 110
Bale 60
PianO 60
Backho 54
Mind 43
Free 41
Aegong 28
Movie 27
Rock 21
Yoon 20
Shuttle 19
Shinee 18
Bonyth 14
JulyZerg 13
soO 13
sorry 12
Shine 11
Dota 2
Gorgc3407
qojqva1995
Dendi683
420jenkins197
XcaliburYe81
Counter-Strike
allub508
markeloff184
adren_tv132
oskar75
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King113
Other Games
singsing1722
hiko1041
Beastyqt483
ArmadaUGS243
crisheroes230
Hui .151
Liquid`VortiX148
Trikslyr38
ZerO(Twitch)27
FrodaN18
MindelVK10
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 26
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV338
League of Legends
• Jankos3008
• TFBlade1309
• Stunt337
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
28m
Replay Cast
7h 28m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 28m
LiuLi Cup
18h 28m
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
LiuLi Cup
1d 18h
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Online Event
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.