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Hello TL, my name is DeCiBle(.275) and I've been a long time fan of this game and it's community.
Used to watch a lot of Day9, Husky, GSL clips, and in general Starcraft 2 strategy tutorials and pro matches. My infatuation with watching the strategy behind this game later drove me to pick it up for myself, and through a lot of rough trial and error I made it through bronze, silver, gold, and finally to Plat where I sit (un)comfortably now. (I want to be a diam damn it! [maybe higher])
As it stands I still want to improve, but I don't believe mass laddering's the best solution. (random players, random strategies, no 2 games are the same = learning from randomness and not setting up a solid foundation) IMO: Learning from the ladder is learning to deal with the flavor of the month builds, as opposed to developing a well-rounded understanding of the game and it's timings. (timings being the key point: it's hard to pin-point accurately what the timings are for certain builds if you only have experience against poorly-executed variations, or don't face it consistently enough to draw solid conclusions from it)
What i propose is we form a team of people willing to run through certain builds in certain match-ups on a weekly basis. Examining in detail (In game! hands on!) how it FEELS to play against certain builds, what the potential options/solutions are to these builds and how they play out. Scientifically breaking down each match-up and opening to the point of solid understanding.
Having trouble with 2-rax opener ZvT? We'll run a 2-rax all-in, expand, and bunker contain at you until you understand the opener inside-and out. The point is to bring a sense of understanding to the game from a 1st person perspective that videos, text, and audio can't provide.
How we'll do this is as follows: Add me on B-net (DeCiBle.275) and we'll set up practice groups, e.g. - group A consists of 5 people with a weekly goal/theme (get player B comfortable against a 4 warp gate all in); group B consists of X people practicing a different goal. Basically I'll be the hub to connect you to the different groups practicing certain strategies that week.
If you don't want to play, but would instead like to offer helpful advice and observe: that's fine as well. The general idea is to get organized and help the community as a whole grow as players by offering helpful criticism on the weak spots in their play. (as well as create connections and make new friends/practice partners by matching people up with players who accel at other players' weak points)
TLDR: I'm trying to set up a wellfare gosucoaching. Add me!
(It's class time, I'll be back later to edit this post and clean it up)
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What level player are you? I cant seem to find you on sc2ranks.com
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This is easier said than done, there is already a practice partner thread like this, just consider that you would have to make a huge team, namely all of the leagues to run these builds all day long, dedicated players etc.
Consider that even if the silver player tries to hold a 4 gate from a diamond player, that silver player will never beat him, and the core problems never really arise. I find through some of my coaching that people in the lower leagues are not certain of what went wrong in a game, or they think they do and are wrong, so the same skill level, again, must be attained or some other system would have to be put in place.
It is a great idea but the form of organization you are looking for is nothing different than a team/semi-pro team with organization, but again, for people in the much lower leagues are more casual players, and may not be committed enough to sitting down for an hour or two every night to get better. Granted there are some people who want nothing else but to get better, but they join a team or pay for coaching from the best.
My thought, I say just do it, but please consider...
E-Sports HWAITING!!!!
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I don't know about an actual team, but I think a coordinated group of people practicing specific things (i.e. 4gate for a week) would be cool. I'd join something like that.
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I am a Gold level Zerg, on the verge of getting into Platinum. Aiming for Diamond!
TurkeyKnight.718
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I'm a low level (800) diamond, and I think this sounds like a great idea!
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We can make a channel call practice.
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As awesome as this sounds in theory, many other people have attempted to start similar groups only to fall to poor leadership and just general lack of organization.
Considering how TL pickup IRC is 99.9% afk, TL TS isn't very populated, and the lack of any real use of the practice partner thread, I endorse this kind of activity, though I doubt its success.
GL!
ktimekiller.161 US
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Almost didnt read yoslongs post, you guys should totally make a chatchannel, if you want this to pick up. idk if practice is unique enough since some people might already be using it, no harm in trying i suppose.
I would join you but my school is intense right now so i dont have time to play. After it dies down ill definitely join up.
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protoss high level diamond, sounds good guys.  Robo.899
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Dance.428
zerg In diamond right now around 2k, looking to get into master's soon.
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Im a Protoss diamond player and will add you.
I have done a few of these before and the biggest issue is getting in contact with the ppl that are not the OP starter. So once again ill give it a try and we will see how it goes.
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Count me in, 2600 diamond zerg, would like to practice and get into masters, and not stop there.
I would suggest some kind of "team name" just so we can have a dedicated channel to meet in.
Clairvoyant.987
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On February 03 2011 04:22 yoslong wrote:
We can make a channel call practice.
this seems like a much better idea...
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I'd love practice. I'm 2kish diamond terran looking to improve. I'd love to work on holding early aggression 4 gates, 3 rax 5rr etc with various builds.
dere.353
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