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Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 07:03:56
December 06 2010 07:01 GMT
#1
After listening to Idra, iNcontrol, Artosis, and JP discuss on the "State of the Game" stream tonight about whether or not there should be a strategy forum where only progamers (and players with a qualified knowledge about the game, or whatever TL administration would decide) can talk about strategy without having to wade through the thousands of posts from low level players, I felt obliged to create this poll:

Poll: I Would Approve of an Exclusive SC2 Strategy Forum for Pros Only

ABSOLUTELY! I Agree Completely. (586)
 
80%

Yes, I Can See This as Being Beneficial. (80)
 
11%

NO! This is Disgusting and Against all TL Stands For. (49)
 
7%

No, This is Unfair and Injust. (15)
 
2%

730 total votes

Your vote: I Would Approve of an Exclusive SC2 Strategy Forum for Pros Only

(Vote): ABSOLUTELY! I Agree Completely.
(Vote): Yes, I Can See This as Being Beneficial.
(Vote): No, This is Unfair and Injust.
(Vote): NO! This is Disgusting and Against all TL Stands For.



Edit: The condition being that everyone would be able to view the forum!
D1pstick
Profile Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
December 06 2010 07:02 GMT
#2
Sure, as long as other people can read it.
AJ-
Profile Joined April 2010
United States316 Posts
December 06 2010 07:04 GMT
#3
i doubt pros would really post on it. i know i'd prefer sharing info with teammates and friends/practice partners as opposed to the people i'll probably play in tournaments
raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
December 06 2010 07:05 GMT
#4
All for it as long as any TL members can lurk.
Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
December 06 2010 07:08 GMT
#5
On December 06 2010 16:04 AJ- wrote:
i doubt pros would really post on it. i know i'd prefer sharing info with teammates and friends/practice partners as opposed to the people i'll probably play in tournaments


I can see that as being possible but I think a lot of progamers have made their opinions clear, that they would not be interesting in posting in the current strategy forum simply because too many inexperienced players disrespect them and their hours upon hours of experience. Since this appears to be the only possibility of hearing what they might want to share, I think it'd be worth trying. Just curious what some other casual TLer's think.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
December 06 2010 07:09 GMT
#6
as long as the community can view the forum then yes, absolutely
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
TriumpH1
Profile Joined December 2010
6 Posts
December 06 2010 07:10 GMT
#7
This is a really good idea that would actually improve the TL community exp for 2k+ diamond players like me and others who dont like seeing gold players discussing balance (Avilo...hmmm)
"MMM Los Angelos tap water..."
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 06 2010 07:11 GMT
#8
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126517

this has been discussed to death in the past few months
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zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
December 06 2010 07:11 GMT
#9
yeah i think its worth trying. it is pretty uncommon to have an exclusive forum section for top gamers but I think TL could set a precedent.

I mean it has got to be better than how it is now right? Finding a pro thread in the sea of idiots is very difficult. like finding a tear drop in an ocean.
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9774 Posts
December 06 2010 07:12 GMT
#10
On December 06 2010 16:11 infinitestory wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126517

this has been discussed to death in the past few months

And yet every month another thread pops up. And this time it isn't even in the website feedback section.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 07:12:46
December 06 2010 07:12 GMT
#11
We've been talking about this since before Beta even started. We have a number of solutions - they are in the pipeline.

I'll leave this one open since its relevant to SOTG podcast etc.
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 07:21:03
December 06 2010 07:15 GMT
#12
The key to this is at what level you define "pro". I think it would have to be set very high to avoid it becoming too much like Arena Junkies.

Also I doubt many pros would want to discuss and reveal their strategies. I think it might be more interesting to have it centered around game balance and that type of stuff instead.

The thread linked above is 5 months old and didn't have a poll- I think this ones a bit more useful and this was just brought up again tonight in State of the Game.
Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
December 06 2010 07:17 GMT
#13
@Kennigit
Okay, thanks. From what I've heard it just seems like anyone who has a valuable opinion on the matter thinks that 50% of TL forum viewers would oppose such an unequal forum out of general principle. The point was I think it'd be at least 9:1 that people are absolutely in favor. Feel free to close the thread if there are many others already in existence (or it is no longer needed). Also, I apologize for throwing the thread in General (just thought it'd be more public this way).
Lord_of_Chaos
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden372 Posts
December 06 2010 07:21 GMT
#14
If you have too few people allowed to post, I don't see the forum staying alive for very long. If enough people are allowed to post it could work out, but only pros is something I don't see working.

Will be interesting to see how TL.net solves this....
bobbingmatt
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia224 Posts
December 06 2010 07:22 GMT
#15
I think this is a good idea as in the current system it's sometimes hard to know if something is good information or complete crap, the downside is it that looks pretty unfair to exclude people and people new to TL could be turned away because of it.
no
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
December 06 2010 07:24 GMT
#16
I always have wondered, and this has probably be debated to a certain extent, but what if TL implemented a system where people can get reputation points based on posts. If you post something good and people agree, then they can give you a +1 and it overall builds up as you make more good posts and I guess it can serve as a measurement of if your posts are up to snuff or not.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 07:28:37
December 06 2010 07:24 GMT
#17
I only read the Strategy forum when I had just gotten the Beta and was clueless and had everything to learn. I'm a low diamond player now though and feel no need to visit it because it's not limited to people guaranteed to know more than me. Until I know I'm going to get opinions from skilled players who aren't going to rant about balance in every thread, I will continue to have it minimized.

Basically the way I see it is, limit it to the top 1% of players and the remaining 99% of players will be able to benefit from reading it. Not limiting at all gives very little benefit to anyone who isn't a newbie.
SeaMoosi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States62 Posts
December 06 2010 07:24 GMT
#18
Yes, as long as we can all read it.

And don't make it "exclusive" too much- implementation of the Master's League will help, but an application for players who aren't huge on the scene but are still good enough to comment and post now and then would be good. Exclusive too much will make it so that we're cutting out some new innovations. Look at GuineaPig - not nearly as big as Idra or Tester, but he showed off some amazing PvZ.
60 percent of the time, it works every time.
potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
December 06 2010 07:27 GMT
#19
Cool idea. But Pros wont have the time of day to post and theorycraft, they're too busy actually playing the game.
Part of being mature is to accept your loss.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9774 Posts
December 06 2010 07:29 GMT
#20
On December 06 2010 16:24 echO [W] wrote:
I always have wondered, and this has probably be debated to a certain extent, but what if TL implemented a system where people can get reputation points based on posts. If you post something good and people agree, then they can give you a +1 and it overall builds up as you make more good posts and I guess it can serve as a measurement of if your posts are up to snuff or not.

This has also been brought up innumerable times.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171048
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=156803

probably more but I'm lazy.
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