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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126511
after reading this topic I had this idea.
It might not be the best idea but what about a forum where high platinum players talk about the real problems of the game, without noobish lowplatinum-and-below players (such as myself) posting nonesense.
that way, the blizzard people coming to teamliquid have fewer but better topics to read and don't have to figure out which players know their game and which ones are just rubbish.
(edit: maybe this would be better and easier to implement in the official forum, though^^)
edit2: another idea would be, if it is in any way possible, to be able to toggle between high-platinum-player posts and normal view. in this case everyone could post in the same forum, but you can choose also choose to see only the cream of the crop.
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The TL idea of properly supporting the garbage posts with high level replays / something to prove you have a clue was an attempt at solving this, but hasn't gone throught too well.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
it could work,but it would create(widen) a huge social gap among the noobs and pros
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Netherlands15103 Posts
I'm partly in favor of this. On liquidpoker this works well. However I do feel that too many different subforums is a bad thing...
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On May 21 2010 19:44 Tone_ wrote:
The TL idea of properly supporting the garbage posts with high level replays / something to prove you have a clue was an attempt at solving this, but hasn't gone throught too well.
i thought that post was pretty much a joke -.- the fact so many people take it as a serious one proves the futility of such an attempt imo ^_^. High level plat players? where would they draw the line, im currently second in my plat but i know jack-shit about starcraft2. I'm sure there are lots worse players who could bring out much better points founded on more knowledge than i can.
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reading through the latest patch 13 thread this seems like a good idea, but how would we verify people? At the moment, there is really no way to know if someone is who he says he is unless you msg him on bnet.
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Bad idea. It's like saying "if you're pro, post here; if not, go to the noobs thread". I like it how it is now and stupid complaints from some lower players are always fun to read 
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This just reminds me of the backroom on Smashboards, which may or may not be a good thing.
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On May 21 2010 19:49 Beyonder wrote:
I'm partly in favor of this. On liquidpoker this works well. However I do feel that too many different subforums is a bad thing...
It partially works well because the forum is a lot smaller and its easy to know who are the main high stakes players and such. If you make it invite only you'd have a million applications and it'd be a huge work. If its open but the guidelines state that only good players should post it still becomes a bit of a mess with people claiming to be top platinum diamond division 9999.
Something definitely has to be done though, its understandable that new people migrating from other games have gotten used to less than well thought strategy questions and little to no content threads just because the forums are a lot smaller.
What about a forced "quiz" that requires you to read the guidelines very carefully before you are allowed to post? No idea if it would actually have any effect but right now its too easy to just click away and ignore the rules.
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Though I like this idea but I think it takes too much away from the average poster. If I was unable to view Jinro's and Nony's opinion on certain matters I would not be the player I am today. If there was a forum just for high level players I assume they'd mostly post in there and generally stray away from the average strategy forum. The amount of BS posts in the strategy forum would likely increase as well due to the decreased input from players who know what they're doing.
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*adamantly votes in favor of pro sub forum*
*gets rejected from posting in pro sub forum*
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The trouble is a lot of the "top" players post absolute nonsense too.
Just because you're good at the game doesn't necessarily mean you know how to balance it properly. A lot of the problem is that players become attached to certain races.
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I don't like this idea, there is no need really.
If an idiot makes a retarded thread then they'll get called out.
They either accept the wisdom of the gods or continue to wallow in filth.
Tossing all the non-leet dudes into a cesspool is not good for anyone and it's only going to make the higher tier players stop trying to teach these fools and instead just browse the sub-forum where the leet shines through.
And the above post is very true
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I don't like the idea of separating the community. And being top-platinum doesn't mean you can't be biased towards your race nor does it mean that you are good enough to talk about balance.
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On May 21 2010 19:54 iCCup.Nove wrote:
Though I like this idea but I think it takes too much away from the average poster. If I was unable to view Jinro's and Nony's opinion on certain matters I would not be the player I am today. If there was a forum just for high level players I assume they'd mostly post in there and generally stray away from the average strategy forum. The amount of BS posts in the strategy forum would likely increase as well due to the decreased input from players who know what they're doing.
I'd imagine a forum like this would be viewable by all, only postable by some.
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presumably the forum would be viewable by all, but only people above a certain rating (say 1850+ plat arbitrarily) would be able to post
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On May 21 2010 19:58 FC.Strike wrote:
presumably the forum would be viewable by all, but only people above a certain rating (say 1850+ plat arbitrarily) would be able to post
I think invite only would work better. I know that there are a few good players who don't have as many points as they could since they don't really ladder. Also, what happens if they fall below 1850?
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On May 21 2010 19:56 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
I don't like this idea, there is no need really.
If an idiot makes a retarded thread then they'll get called out.
They either accept the wisdom of the gods or continue to wallow in filth.
Tossing all the non-leet dudes into a cesspool is not good for anyone and it's only going to make the higher tier players stop trying to teach these fools and instead just browse the sub-forum where the leet shines through.
And the above post is very true
Unfortunately my friend this doesn't seem to be the case.
Let me explain. Lets use Voidrays as an example.
1. Idiot makes a stupid thread about VR OP. - He gets told how to counter and goes away.
2. Another idiot makes a stupid thread about VR OP.
3. Another idiot makes a stupid thread about VR OP.
3. Another idiot makes a stupid thread about VR OP.
etc
etc
etc
etc
etc
202. Another idiot makes a stupid thread about VR OP.
Blizzard comes along and reads the TL forums. Oh well VR is clearly OP look at all these threads about how strong it is - we must nerf!
The problem with it is that there is just alot more noobs than what their is pros and also that alot of pros would rather play than cry.
This leads to a situation where noobs are screaming and they are all screaming and arguing with people who know better because they would rather cry than improve. Happens in all RTS games, unfortunately developers of a game listen to a stupid majority rather than an experienced minority.
SC2 is apparently destined to fail because of this, like so many other RTS games in the last 10 years. Shame but I guess if you wanna win you gotta play Terran 
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Arena junkies has this for wow arena. But I honestly can't say it improves the quality of their posts. And if you raise the bar to high it just leads to stagnation. All you really need to do is have the mods highlight good posts and I think they already do that.
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