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DentThat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 15:55:11
November 30 2010 04:31 GMT
#1
SlayersBoxer's best match up is undoubtedly his TvT and GOM knows this. They are always placing him in that matchup to try and keep him around for as long as possible. From a business standpoint, I can definitely see this to be viable. He brings in the viewers.

So far in all of his GSL matches, 7 out of 9 were TvT (the other 2 being a TvP and TvZ, which he lost the latter)
SOURCE: http://www.gomtv.net/videos/index.php?page=1&cate=&keyfield=all&key=SlayerSBoxeR

His upcoming match in the Ro32 for GSL3 is also a TvT

That's 80% TvT, 10% TvP, 10% TvZ over 2 seasons!


EDIT:
On November 30 2010 14:41 cablesc wrote:
Boxer played a lot of TvT's in season 2 because, guess what, there were a lot of terrans. 29 terrans out of 64 players

Just because there were a lot of T's doesn't mean there were a lot of TvT's.

In the GSL3, RO64, theres only 2 TvT's, Boxer gets 1
In RO32, only 2 TvT's, Boxer gets 1

In the GSL2 RO16, there's only 1 TvT, Boxer gets it
In the RO8, only 1 TvT, Boxer gets it!

I'm not hating on the legend or disrespecting GomTV (I have paid for 2 seasons so far and I love it)
Just wanted to point out this find that I thought to be a little peculiar
NEX(NSP)Genius...finger waggin' and hair combin' taunts. Whats next?
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
November 30 2010 04:34 GMT
#2
What makes you think TvT is his best matchup?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 30 2010 04:34 GMT
#3
since GSL is new, i don't mind if they use these little cheats to support ESPORTS, but once the scene stabilizes, I hope they stop this if they are doing it on purpose.
MDew
Profile Joined November 2010
United States256 Posts
November 30 2010 04:35 GMT
#4
7 out of 9 when 50% of the players are Terran is not TOO fishy.

However, 5 out of 6 ZvX getting steppes of war......... >>
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 30 2010 04:36 GMT
#5
Eh their conspiracy failed to even get Nada into the Ro64 so I'm not too worried about it.
mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:54:12
November 30 2010 04:37 GMT
#6
Interesting theory. I'm gonna try to calculate the likelyhood of that being completely random. Will report back in this post.

Back:
The brackets are preset, so it's not like the person playing against Boxer can be pre-set after the ro64. However, it's interesting to note that both ro64 matches for Boxer was TvT, and his quarter of the bracket always has the most Terren players. That's not enough to imply a conspiracy though.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:39:57
November 30 2010 04:38 GMT
#7
First of all, I think it's pretty obvious that the Ro64 matches are planned and indeed not random (no foreigners killing one another, no legends killing one another, and Boxer gets the TvT).

However, using the "facts" of GSL2 where Boxer gets the Ro16 and Ro8 TvT matches aren't actual reasons of set-up. Again, they gave Boxer and Nada an easyish bracket (only real name was Loner) so they had a decent chance of meeting up in Ro8 - other than that it ENTIRELY depends on how the other contestants play...Boxer could have been rolled by Core, nobody knows - since Core was NOT expected to beat Bless (which would have given Boxer a TvT in Ro32), Loner could have and indeed ALMOST lost to Terrious in Round of 32, which would give Boxer a ZvT.

The only "fact" you have is that the Ro64 are planned - and in fact, it benefits not just Boxer but the foreigners and all the legends as well.

Trust me you wouldn't want to watch BabyWerra make it into the round of 32 anyway.
the farm ends here
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
November 30 2010 04:38 GMT
#8
On November 30 2010 13:34 PanoRaMa wrote:
What makes you think TvT is his best matchup?


he said in a interview its his best mu.

anyways i think its rigged too since there were so many zergs and yet he gets to face terran in the 1st round.
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
November 30 2010 04:39 GMT
#9
That's some pretty heavy accusations out there . Honestly, I don't think it matters at all. The fact that he is strong in TvT doesn't mean that his opponents are weak in TvT. In fact, his opponents have made into RO32 so skill-wise they have been tested.

Certainly, he plays better against T than Z but that doesn't mean that other Terrans cannot take him out!

DentThat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 16:00:16
November 30 2010 04:40 GMT
#10
On November 30 2010 13:35 MDew wrote:
7 out of 9 when 50% of the players are Terran is not TOO fishy.

However, 5 out of 6 ZvX getting steppes of war......... >>


50% are Terran players?

GSL SEASON 3:
1 random
12 P
24 T
27 Z


NEX(NSP)Genius...finger waggin' and hair combin' taunts. Whats next?
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
November 30 2010 04:41 GMT
#11
On November 30 2010 13:38 Looky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 13:34 PanoRaMa wrote:
What makes you think TvT is his best matchup?


he said in a interview its his best mu.


Oo ok gotcha.

Personally I'd enjoy watching some classic-in-the-making BoxeR TvZ in GSL if anything, mirror matches aren't and have never been fun =[
DentThat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States22 Posts
November 30 2010 04:43 GMT
#12
Also keep in mind that Boxer is currently filming a documentary (you can see the camera crew in season 2)

More reason to keep him in the tournament for as long as possible
NEX(NSP)Genius...finger waggin' and hair combin' taunts. Whats next?
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 30 2010 04:44 GMT
#13
On November 30 2010 13:35 MDew wrote:
7 out of 9 when 50% of the players are Terran is not TOO fishy.

However, 5 out of 6 ZvX getting steppes of war......... >>


You sir are faster than me. I was just about to say the same thing.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
frantic.cactus
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand164 Posts
November 30 2010 04:45 GMT
#14
Luck of the draw if you ask me. More Terran in the bracket = more chance of him rolling a mirror.

Even if it is a set up no complaints cus I get to watch BoxeR's sweet style and remnisce...
Terran it up since 2007
zor.au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia270 Posts
November 30 2010 04:45 GMT
#15
Boxer himself said TvT is his best matchup.

I don't blame GOM giving him an easy run, and i've thought the same thing myself before i saw this post.

Boxer will only bring big audience to GOM, in return continue to bring Sponsors for events like these.

wow
DentThat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States22 Posts
November 30 2010 04:46 GMT
#16
On November 30 2010 13:38 PartyBiscuit wrote:
First of all, I think it's pretty obvious that the Ro64 matches are planned and indeed not random (no foreigners killing one another, no legends killing one another, and Boxer gets the TvT).


True, true. I think everyone is pretty aware of this and is fine with it because it's not just 1 person they are pushing. And me personally as a fan, I'm very happy GOM is doing this.
NEX(NSP)Genius...finger waggin' and hair combin' taunts. Whats next?
DentThat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States22 Posts
November 30 2010 04:48 GMT
#17
On November 30 2010 13:44 Metalwing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 13:35 MDew wrote:
7 out of 9 when 50% of the players are Terran is not TOO fishy.

However, 5 out of 6 ZvX getting steppes of war......... >>


You sir are faster than me. I was just about to say the same thing.


I just showed the race statistics (a few posts up) and it's clearly not 50% of players being T...
NEX(NSP)Genius...finger waggin' and hair combin' taunts. Whats next?
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 30 2010 04:48 GMT
#18
I have no doubts the brackets are being put together deliberately, but who can blame them? Boxer is the kind of guy that can make or break the game.
I think esports is pretty nice.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:52:15
November 30 2010 04:50 GMT
#19
On November 30 2010 13:48 DentThat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 13:44 Metalwing wrote:
On November 30 2010 13:35 MDew wrote:
7 out of 9 when 50% of the players are Terran is not TOO fishy.

However, 5 out of 6 ZvX getting steppes of war......... >>


You sir are faster than me. I was just about to say the same thing.


I just showed the race statistics (a few posts up) and it's clearly not 50% of players being T...


No its not 50%. Its more like 40 on average of the 3 seasons, i think
That is still alot though
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
November 30 2010 04:52 GMT
#20
The current ratio in TvT is 50% T wins. I think it's an extremely fair matchup.

Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
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