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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 30 2010 06:20 GMT
#61
I think when we saw the Round of 64 match-ups with the tiny amount of TvTs and ZvZs, and how pretty much everything else was a TvZ... The chances of that distribution were probably the lowest of all.

Nah, I assume they're tweaking the match-ups, and proceed from there.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
November 30 2010 06:22 GMT
#62
I'm pretty sure Artosis mentioned in a SotG podcast that GOM tries to spread out the foreigners in the brackets, so anything is possible.
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news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
November 30 2010 06:23 GMT
#63
I find this hard to believe, how does r64 selection happen? Is it random draw or they just publish a bracket each time? To be fair I've seen a random player get the same race 7-8 times in a row on bw, can't remember the exact number. Odds were pretty slim but from his words it happened more than once or twice.
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shire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
November 30 2010 06:23 GMT
#64
guys terran he met in ro 64 was not a push over so is polt prime in ro 32. poltprime took out oGsMC in season1, then lost to oGsTOP. i think ro32 will be a great match up. also ro 64 for polt was against zerg. if that zerg was like leenock ( person who was not amazing in season2 against nada), it woulda been Boxer vs Zerg (who is like leenock..).
skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
November 30 2010 06:28 GMT
#65
I don't see how you can claim to not be disrespecting GomTV when you're clearly implying they are running a biased tournament, I can't think of any bigger disrespect to a tournament organiser :s

That being said 9 games is not a large enough sample, even 200 games wouldn't be enough of a sample to "prove" something like this.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 06:31:38
November 30 2010 06:30 GMT
#66
On November 30 2010 13:52 Klamity wrote:
The current ratio in TvT is 50% T wins. I think it's an extremely fair matchup.



Sorry had to laugh a bit.

Sounds like you're implying that 50% of the time nobody wins in TvT. Lol!

I don't think there's any fixing beyond first rounds really. I mean, he wouldn't face a terran in the next round if the terran had lost it. Only the first round can be 100% fixed as terran, unless there was another tvt right beside him.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
November 30 2010 06:32 GMT
#67
everyone sees this happening

it's not really super secret

Nada/Boxer's path to round of 8 last GSL, matchups/brackets for qualifications, map picking and getting rid of veto.

They do pick brackets, they do set up round of 64, and I'm sure when millions of viewers and their lives are at stake that they fix every boxer game.
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omnic
Profile Joined July 2010
United States188 Posts
November 30 2010 06:34 GMT
#68
On November 30 2010 13:34 PanoRaMa wrote:
What makes you think TvT is his best matchup?

If I remember correctly boxer has claimed TvT is his best MU in interviews before.
nehl
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany270 Posts
November 30 2010 06:35 GMT
#69
On November 30 2010 13:34 Whole wrote:
since GSL is new, i don't mind if they use these little cheats to support ESPORTS, but once the scene stabilizes, I hope they stop this if they are doing it on purpose.


pretty much exactly the same way i think about it;)
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
November 30 2010 06:37 GMT
#70
Don't really buy the whole setting up in favor for him. If you look at the brackets he could have faced a zerg in r032 had the guy won (nspjoon). Even in tvt's he still has to win vs good opponents to continue on in the tournament anyways.
MoldyKimchee
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
November 30 2010 06:40 GMT
#71
Intresting, Kind of reminds me of MAKOTO NAGANO on the TV show Ninja Warrior. He's like a hero on that show and when he messes up and falls on the obstacle course everyone is just so sad, its like they want him to have another try.

But yeah, BOXER is the HERO of South Korea
SiCkO_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States481 Posts
November 30 2010 06:44 GMT
#72
I really doubt that this is true

but if it is.............it will really hurt GOMtv and probably give OGN and MBC a lot of ammunition in the court case against them (even if it isnt relevant)
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FalconPunchsc2
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada91 Posts
November 30 2010 06:45 GMT
#73
i wouldnt doudt it if they even paid the opponent to lose...
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sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 06:47:29
November 30 2010 06:46 GMT
#74
I don't doubt the brackets are very meticulously made though. Even John admits they try not to put teammates against each other. Wouldn't surprise me if they also try to give a player like Boxer an easy bracket on purpose.
TheDoctor
Profile Joined August 2009
66 Posts
November 30 2010 06:47 GMT
#75
On November 30 2010 13:52 Klamity wrote:
The current ratio in TvT is 50% T wins. I think it's an extremely fair matchup.



actually its 100% T wins, you fail at basic math
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Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
November 30 2010 06:49 GMT
#76
SlayersBoxer vs Nada in RO8 in GSL2 instead of possibly meeting in the finals shows that they don't rig the brackets perfectly though.
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
November 30 2010 06:59 GMT
#77
On November 30 2010 15:49 Lobo2me wrote:
SlayersBoxer vs Nada in RO8 in GSL2 instead of possibly meeting in the finals shows that they don't rig the brackets perfectly though.

Not so.

Boxer vs. Nada finals was a long shot. Boxer vs. Nada in Ro8, the first bracket for which matches are settled with a best-of-five, was not.
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necmon
Profile Joined September 2010
194 Posts
November 30 2010 07:10 GMT
#78
Sorry, but you fail to understand the concept of "seeding". It's used in real sports too, like tennis for example.

How epic would a Round 1 game between Nadal and Federer in Wimbledon be ? Nobody would care about the tournament after that round because the remaining player will most likely win (apart from upsets that do happen of course!).

The only real scandal would be when the OUTCOME of the matches would be fixed by GOMTV. But I really don't think they do that here. We have seen far too many upsets and losing on purpose CONVINCINGLY (like, you build units and the game is actually very very close and exciting) is hard to do. You might just play a little too good (to make it more exciting) and then you cannot lose anymore because that would be obvious to every spectator that the outcome was fixed then.
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
November 30 2010 07:12 GMT
#79
On November 30 2010 13:40 DentThat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 13:35 MDew wrote:
7 out of 9 when 50% of the players are Terran is not TOO fishy.

However, 5 out of 6 ZvX getting steppes of war......... >>


The proportions for each race for season 3

Terran: 39.5%
Protoss: 33%
Zerg: 23.9%
Random: 3.6%




protoss is 18%
random is 1 of 64 which is 1.56% anyone can do 1/64 on a calculator

dont feel like correcting the rest
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shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
November 30 2010 07:14 GMT
#80
On November 30 2010 15:47 TheDoctor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 13:52 Klamity wrote:
The current ratio in TvT is 50% T wins. I think it's an extremely fair matchup.



actually its 100% T wins, you fail at basic math

No you do. Say you have 3 TvT's, theres 6 T's playing, 3 win, so terrans win 3 games but terrans also lose 3 games, hence terran having a 50% winning percentage.
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