thats actually really interesting how zerg has a better win% on NA but Euro is complete opposite (55.0% tvz wow) and 51% pvz isn't too bad thats really close to 50% but this obviously is counting all diamond games not just top top player games but still interesting to see ^^.

Thanks for posting

Dante08

Singapore4120 Posts

November 07 2010 08:27 GMT

Interesting stats. Korea has the most balanced numbers between then4 regions

Deleted User 47542

1484 Posts

November 07 2010 08:29 GMT

Thank god I wasn't the only one who had major TvP troubles(In the U.S anyways, 56% is pretty significant). Don't really understand the point of an adjusted percentage, raw numbers should be more accurate.

MAP STATISTICS PLEASE.

AyJay

1515 Posts

November 07 2010 08:29 GMT

Oh no. WHY BLIZZARD?!?! WHY????

Incoming balance discussions.

User was warned for this post

edit: GOD DAM IT.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

November 07 2010 08:33 GMT

I really wish they released these back before the first balance patch. Would have been interesting to see tvz win %.

space_yes

United States548 Posts

November 07 2010 08:33 GMT

Because the range of skill levels in Diamond is so high there is not a lot you can extrapolate from this.

Raelcun

United States3747 Posts

November 07 2010 08:35 GMT

So yet again Blizzard releases more percentages with no context... I don't understand why they do this. One thing I've noticed is that in the different regions players like and dislike different maps. Some map specific data would be nice or data on the maps downvoted per region WITH the win percentages. Just seeing a bunch of %'s doesnt really tell us anything. And yet they keep doing it.

StarcraftMan

Canada507 Posts

November 07 2010 08:35 GMT

On November 07 2010 17:24 Dommk wrote:
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Pretty interesting to see how different each region is

The stats show that Zerg is OP in 3 out of 4 regions. Not surprising - this is something the community suspected aleady.

NearPerfection

232 Posts

November 07 2010 08:36 GMT

#10

Yeah not much can be gleaned from these stats. I think they keep releasing them to show us how close to 50% everything is. Regardless of how they "control" for skill level it's still ridiculous.

Kakera

United States419 Posts

November 07 2010 08:37 GMT

#11

How can you tell which side wins? Does PvT 56.5% mean that protoss wins 56.5% in pvt battles and that Terran wins 43.5%? That's how I'm reading it, that the winner is on the left and loser on right side of the 'V' Just want to make sure I'm reading it correctly.

Anarion55

United States72 Posts

November 07 2010 08:38 GMT

#12

Win percentage by map would probably shed a lot more light on how games are actually working. It would also be interesting to know average game length in each of the matchups, since that would reveal how much rush tactics are affecting the overall numbers.

Icx

Belgium853 Posts

November 07 2010 08:38 GMT

#13

hm interesting,

I was actually thinking that in general that it was T>P in NA and P>T in korea, but it seems like it's actually the other way around :p

it's actually really weird how the PvT mu is so different in general numbers from region to region, while the other Mu's have smaller differences.

I mean from a 45-48% loss for Protoss in EU/kor to a 56,5% win for protoss in the US, that's a fairly big difference.

Viruuus

Germany451 Posts

November 07 2010 08:38 GMT

#14

If anything, it shows that Z is slightly favored in PvZ and its very even in TvZ.
Its funny how PvT stats are totally going in differnt directions on different servers

dala

Sweden477 Posts

November 07 2010 08:38 GMT

#15

I think Blizzard is pretty happy with these numbers. During Blizzcon the balance team said that for them a skew of +/- 5% in the win/loss percentage was acceptable.

The SEA server is smaller than the other and will have larger deviations than the rest.

NearPerfection

232 Posts

November 07 2010 08:40 GMT

#16

On November 07 2010 17:38 Icx wrote:
hm interesting,

I was actually thinking that in general that it was T>P in NA and P>T in korea, but it seems like it's actually the other way around :p

it's actually really weird how the PvT mu is so different in general numbers from region to region, while the other Mu's have smaller differences.

I mean from a 45-48% loss for Protoss in EU/kor to a 56,5% win for protoss in the US, that's a fairly big difference.

Thats because more likely than not this stats are not limited to a single league, so even if Diamond Protoss had 44.9% win rate vs Terran, so long as Silver, Bronze, Platinum have 50-55% all of a sudden it will magically look like Protoss is OP.

These stats are pooled from noobs and can tell nothing about game balance... sigh.

Edit: looks to be diamond only misread OP, there is still a huge skill cap in diamond league.

VikingKong

China509 Posts

November 07 2010 08:41 GMT

#17

On November 07 2010 17:35 StarcraftMan wrote:

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The stats show that Zerg is OP in 3 out of 4 regions. Not surprising - this is something the community suspected aleady.

Rofl, here comes the balance squad... Yeah, the community definitely suspected zerg op...and of course these stats are meaningful and confirm it...

fdsdfg

United States1251 Posts

November 07 2010 08:42 GMT

#18

On November 07 2010 17:40 NearPerfection wrote:

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it says it's all from diamond.

That said, these numbers have almost nothing to do with game balance. I think it's absurd that they release it to try to prove anything.

Icx

Belgium853 Posts

November 07 2010 08:42 GMT

#19

"North America – Diamond" , and the same for the other regions, seriously read before you actually post?

And i'm not trying to say "omg this MU is imba, fix it", I just made a remark that it is interesting that the MU is so different in each region.

Seriously, yes "imba" talk is annoying, but people get on their horse way to quick nowadays :/

Dommk

Australia4865 Posts

November 07 2010 08:42 GMT

#20

They are only meaningful if they show that my race is UP!