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On October 11 2010 12:44 jcarlsoniv wrote: So I'm just trying to figure things out. Is it possible to lynch on Day 1? I know it's most likely improbable due to lack of information. Hopefully we'll get some good clues. And then see where the discussion takes us.
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On October 11 2010 13:04 youngminii wrote: whats a haunted zombie Youngminii, stop pretending to be a noobie
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On October 11 2010 13:17 CubEdIn wrote: Awesome start, just when I was about to hit the sack for a few hours.
So, as far as I can tell, nobody in the game died (which is good, I guess, it seems it happened in other games), so we're off to a fresh start.
Could we have some of the more experienced players share some ideas on how we should go about the first day? Okay 1st day
Well there are two objectives 1) Create a favorable atmosphere for the town. I suggest we get working on the clues. There might be some in the post. Its always good to work on clues 2) Pressure the maifa (or vampires, ill just call them mafia). We need to make sure they stay active. So we have to call out people for being inactive.
So how do we decide who to lynch? While doing 1 and 2, see if someone is acting scummy. Lynch that person If no one shows up, we lynch an inactive.
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On October 11 2010 13:26 orgolove wrote: Damn, I wish the list of people would be automatically linked to their profiles... Doc? :D If someone has too much time on their hands, I'd be happy if they would make a list
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On October 11 2010 13:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't mean to say not to talk, annul. Hard to convey my thought thoroughly I guess. I'm more taking it from the fact that often on forums, people speak before thinking. But since there is a small, select group playing, this will probably occur less.
Just watch, you'll make hydralist by the end of this game
Grtz on zergling ^.^
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On October 11 2010 13:49 NB wrote: so i assume this is where townies discuss who to kill on the 1st day... i have played mafia in real life so normally people who suggest who to kill first is the mafia (since they wana kill people @_@) hmmm... Rule of thumb, 3rd or 4th person on a bandwagon is probably mafia
Mafia in.. Real life... Whats that? Is that like on a different forum or something?
(jkjk)
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On October 11 2010 13:55 Protactinium wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 13:35 Glasse wrote:On October 11 2010 13:29 meeple wrote:On October 11 2010 13:22 Thegilaboy wrote: Also, DrH are you going to be providing screenshots of everyone's profile in the OP for convenience? Yes... in good time... just give us a sec to fix this...
On October 11 2010 13:26 orgolove wrote: Damn, I wish the list of people would be automatically linked to their profiles... Doc? :D Again... in a little while, this should be added... first things first... Did it for you, spare you some time + Show Spoiler +Edit: added spoiler, and edit note Well, unfortunately in this case those are changing profiles... you'd need actual screenshots in order to make sure stuff doesn't change. Meeple already took screenshots so don't worry about that
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On October 11 2010 14:06 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 13:55 LSB wrote:On October 11 2010 13:49 NB wrote: so i assume this is where townies discuss who to kill on the 1st day... i have played mafia in real life so normally people who suggest who to kill first is the mafia (since they wana kill people @_@) hmmm... Rule of thumb, 3rd or 4th person on a bandwagon is probably mafia Mafia in.. Real life... Whats that? Is that like on a different forum or something? (jkjk) no, mafia in real life is a game where you sit in a round table and play mafia xD... night: everyone heads down and close eyes, day: discuss =D.... 1 game might take 10 mins, might take 3 hours... what is a bandwagon T_T I always die day1/night1 in rl mafia . People see my smiling face and somehow just see a big target
Bandwagon: the people who follow the accusation Say I accused you because you hanged out around a comic website. Suddnly two people accuse you too, those are bandwagoners
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On October 11 2010 14:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 14:20 CubEdIn wrote:On October 11 2010 14:15 Korynne wrote:On October 11 2010 13:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: In a nearby cafe Korynne was enjoying a late coffee. She had just got off a very long shift at the Alfred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital and needed the energy just to make the drive home. There was only one other person in the cafe and she couldn't help but get a weird feeling from him. As she left the cafe and got into her car she could sense he was following her. She drove for a long distance and when she stopped in her driveway she could swear she heard a noise in the backseat. She looked behind her and saw nothing. Her mind was playing tricks on her.
She turned her head back to find something much worse. The man from the cafe was sitting in the passenger seat of her car and had a gun pressed to her temple. The gunshot was silenced, her body wouldn't be found until the morning.
Oh I see how it is, I'm the only female and I'm a nurse. Also I'm offended that I was not sexually assaulted before my death. Why "BEFORE my death"? Can you not settle with "after"? Now your talking my style, giggidy goo Can I have a leg?
For uhh... Research purposes of course
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Veldril defended Masq, looks like a big mistake to me.
I'm voting Masq for the information his lynch will give us. And the clue does seem pretty straightforward...
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On October 12 2010 09:34 jcarlsoniv wrote: Masq voting for Veldril...
Very interesting. Not sure what to think about this. O_o Either
A) Veldril is scum and supported Masq cause he knows/thinks that Masq is townie B) Veldril is scumbuddy and Masq wants to cut associations with him C) Masq just wants to survive, and is voting for the next highest person.
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On October 12 2010 09:41 YummyBlaBla wrote: Or maybe it's just mind games to play on us townies Oh wait, if its a mind game, that probably means that Veldril is scum and they want to muddle the waters into a giant mess of WIFORM.
But maybe Masq is scum and he just wants us to come to this conclusion, and by doing this we'll waste a lynch as Veldril will be falsly accused
Or Or Or.... mind explodes
+ Show Spoiler +Sorry just had to do that
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BTW, I just realized something. We could try pulling off the plan from Mafia XXX. Anyone intrested?
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On October 12 2010 10:10 Pandain wrote:we all say our role and then mafia picks us off one by one Uhh never mind about that.
Basically everyone visits one person. Only problem. Vampire brute would ruin it.
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How about this. We kill the Vampire Brute. Then we do the plan. Kapish?
The plan for reference. Back in Mafia XXX. Note, in Mafia XXX there was no watcher, but it still worked due to the combination of trackers, and the fact that Xelin visited people. + Show Spoiler +On August 09 2010 03:26 LSB wrote:As for a random number, I got 10, XeliN. Here are the instructions for the plan + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2010 23:17 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:40 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too. If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). but how do we set up a real circle when the role blocker gets in there Okay, I will make an extreamly extended version of my plan PROBLEMS: The watcher has to be smart. If the watcher is dumb/inactive, the plan fails Day 1 We agree to this plan :D Night oneShow nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too.
Day 2: Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). So basically, Day2 is there to get the watcher confirmed. The watcher then STEPS FORWARD, we'll have to sort though everything. Anyone messing with the plan, should be spotted and killed. Night 2Bus Driver protects Watcher. If there is only one DT claim, Watcher orders Medics to protect DT. ( iffy, but I don't think there is only going to be one DT claim) The Watcher will now control detective/trackers action. Watcher randomly assigns detectives to check up on people. Watcher has a list of what they should be, and the detective needs to match the list. Watcher does the same thing with trackers A few notes. *If a framer frames someone, they will show as regular red, not red special. So the Watcher should send the DT to people who claimed a blue role that can visit people We work from here, but the circle could gradually confirm each other. Takes a bunch of logic though Here's a breakdown by individual roles Conan the Not-So-Barbaric (Detective): Role check XeliN Active Stalker (Tracker): Stalk XeliN Lazy Stalker (Watcher): Watch XeliN Boy Scout (Medic): Protect XeliN Wannabe Batman (Vigilante): Do not target Xelin Mad Nutter (Mad Hatter): Do not target Xelin Bus Driver (Bus Driver): Do not target Xelin Disillusioned Teachers' Brigade (Mafia): PM Me and I'll give you super secrete instructions ;P!
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I just realized that my post was a big "Kill me sign"
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On October 12 2010 10:13 LSB wrote:How about this. We kill the Vampire Brute. Then we do the plan. Kapish? The plan for reference. Back in Mafia XXX. Note, in Mafia XXX there was no watcher, but it still worked due to the combination of trackers, and the fact that Xelin visited people. + Show Spoiler +On August 09 2010 03:26 LSB wrote:As for a random number, I got 10, XeliN. Here are the instructions for the plan + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2010 23:17 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:40 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too. If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). but how do we set up a real circle when the role blocker gets in there Okay, I will make an extreamly extended version of my plan PROBLEMS: The watcher has to be smart. If the watcher is dumb/inactive, the plan fails Day 1 We agree to this plan :D Night oneShow nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too.
Day 2: Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). So basically, Day2 is there to get the watcher confirmed. The watcher then STEPS FORWARD, we'll have to sort though everything. Anyone messing with the plan, should be spotted and killed. Night 2Bus Driver protects Watcher. If there is only one DT claim, Watcher orders Medics to protect DT. ( iffy, but I don't think there is only going to be one DT claim) The Watcher will now control detective/trackers action. Watcher randomly assigns detectives to check up on people. Watcher has a list of what they should be, and the detective needs to match the list. Watcher does the same thing with trackers A few notes. *If a framer frames someone, they will show as regular red, not red special. So the Watcher should send the DT to people who claimed a blue role that can visit people We work from here, but the circle could gradually confirm each other. Takes a bunch of logic though Here's a breakdown by individual roles Conan the Not-So-Barbaric (Detective): Role check XeliN Active Stalker (Tracker): Stalk XeliN Lazy Stalker (Watcher): Watch XeliN Boy Scout (Medic): Protect XeliN Wannabe Batman (Vigilante): Do not target Xelin Mad Nutter (Mad Hatter): Do not target Xelin Bus Driver (Bus Driver): Do not target Xelin Disillusioned Teachers' Brigade (Mafia): PM Me and I'll give you super secrete instructions ;P! Ignore this, It won't work this game. If we're going to have to do a plan, we have to build something from the ground up. I was thinking of the general gist, a giant blue circle is aways good.
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On October 12 2010 10:36 Kpyolysis32 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 10:13 LSB wrote:How about this. We kill the Vampire Brute. Then we do the plan. Kapish? The plan for reference. Back in Mafia XXX. Note, in Mafia XXX there was no watcher, but it still worked due to the combination of trackers, and the fact that Xelin visited people. + Show Spoiler +On August 09 2010 03:26 LSB wrote:As for a random number, I got 10, XeliN. Here are the instructions for the plan + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2010 23:17 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:40 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too. If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). but how do we set up a real circle when the role blocker gets in there Okay, I will make an extreamly extended version of my plan PROBLEMS: The watcher has to be smart. If the watcher is dumb/inactive, the plan fails Day 1 We agree to this plan :D Night oneShow nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too.
Day 2: Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). So basically, Day2 is there to get the watcher confirmed. The watcher then STEPS FORWARD, we'll have to sort though everything. Anyone messing with the plan, should be spotted and killed. Night 2Bus Driver protects Watcher. If there is only one DT claim, Watcher orders Medics to protect DT. ( iffy, but I don't think there is only going to be one DT claim) The Watcher will now control detective/trackers action. Watcher randomly assigns detectives to check up on people. Watcher has a list of what they should be, and the detective needs to match the list. Watcher does the same thing with trackers A few notes. *If a framer frames someone, they will show as regular red, not red special. So the Watcher should send the DT to people who claimed a blue role that can visit people We work from here, but the circle could gradually confirm each other. Takes a bunch of logic though Here's a breakdown by individual roles Conan the Not-So-Barbaric (Detective): Role check XeliN Active Stalker (Tracker): Stalk XeliN Lazy Stalker (Watcher): Watch XeliN Boy Scout (Medic): Protect XeliN Wannabe Batman (Vigilante): Do not target Xelin Mad Nutter (Mad Hatter): Do not target Xelin Bus Driver (Bus Driver): Do not target Xelin Disillusioned Teachers' Brigade (Mafia): PM Me and I'll give you super secrete instructions ;P! The guide to being a good Town player (I think it's linked in post #4) says that this plan was bad, and that the Mafia would have won that if they weren't dumb. The Brute makes this even more terrifying. We still have like another day until we actually have to lynch, I think we ought to keep accusing people and analyzing until then, and not make any weird-ass plans that put our blues in danger. Zombies in this may as well be bold and accuse and whatnot, because if the reds decide to kill them, at least it's not a blue who's getting killed. I wouldn't say that the plan was bad. It was a pretty good plan. There were a few flaws that I didn't consider, but they can be fixed
+ Show Spoiler +Starting from 4) We realize (now) that the watcher isn't that important. Theres a few blue combos that are pretty deadly, and worth having some blue roles used for checking. Also, there are easy ways to find someone who isn't mafia. 6) The godfather problem is going to be big, but all we have to do is have someone willing to be sacrificed by a lynch 7) I don't see any overexposed blues right now, and Mafia always has a large amount of dangerous townies to pick from The real dangerous thing about the plan is that it was designed so that Mafia couldn't crack it.
In this game, it's going to be a lot harder to put together a plan. But we can't just junk the idea of not making a plan. Planning probably going to be all in PM land since this is a pretty big game
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On October 12 2010 11:07 youngminii wrote: Can you idiots stop trying to make a town circle? There's 61 people. It's the first day. There's 22 non-townies.
Stop confusing yourselves and focus on the only matter at hand: Veldril or Masq. I agree. Sowwyz for all the confusion for a while.
And I say Masq, since his accusation of aztrorisk was kind of strange...
On October 11 2010 17:01 Masq wrote:Off to bed for me, but instead of everyone mindlessly voting for me because of a PEAR. I'd like you to take a look at the guy accusing everyone (not just me), Aztrorisk. This is his profile: Shadows, eyes watching someone while they sleep, and "heavily massacred", with a picture of a shadowed man. Even his quote is interesting "Do not rush the masterpiece". Sure looks hes just playing everyone like a fiddle if you ask me. Mob mentality at its finest.
I really don't get it. I found the shadow man in the Day1 post, but I don't get the Eyes watching someone while they sleep, and also the masterpiece. Is this suppose to be part of day1 clues?
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On October 13 2010 11:38 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 11:36 Bill Murray wrote: pm me your roles if you are town, please i will make a list and will try to help i made a very good list when i was a ninja in flamewheel's last game, helping the town sure, i wasn't pro-town that game, but i am this game there is not much else i can do to help help me help you DO NOT ROLECLAIM TO BM. Oops =P
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