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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 10:54:42
August 14 2010 00:10 GMT
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Bigfile MSL Round of 8, Day 3
12:00 KST on MBC


(T)Light <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Triathlon> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Fighting Spirit> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Odd-Eye 3> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)EffOrt

(T)Sea <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Fighting Spirit> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Triathlon> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Odd-Eye 3> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)Jaedong




+ Show Spoiler [Predictions] +
In the midst of a controversial TvZ atmosphere, with mech switches and Terran maps abound, we are now treated to what may be the most intense night of TvZ for a long time. Two of the top Terrans in the world are each matched up with one of two top Zergs in the world. We will see as many as 8 high-caliber games of the match-up that many consider the defining snapshot of Starcraft. Let's take a look at the pickings for tonight.




The first series for tonight is (T)Light vs. (Z)Effort.

Light has the nickname "Invisible Terran," as he used to be quite good, but never accomplished much outside of proleague and was constantly overshadowed by his teammate, Sea. However, as of late, Light has made a name for himself, starting with his systematic destruction of the competition during the 2010 Winners League. While his all-around strength has since diminished to "above average," Light has now been getting a reputation for his unstoppable TvZ. With his recent 2-0 of Calm, Light has brought himself to a whopping 26-2 (92.9%) winrate against Zerg since his loss to Kwanro in the NATE MSL. Luckily for him, that's the matchup that he's playing tonight.

Effort was our darkhorse champion of the Korean Air OSL Season 1. Leta's wraiths and the gods of ZvZ have resulted in him recently losing his spot in the OSL, but he now has an excellent chance to show off his skill against someone who is arguably the best vZ player in the world right now. It's hard to judge Effort's ZvT; at times, he shows us amazing macromanagement and skill, but at other times, he is a typical mediocre zerg that pulls out wins due to mistakes by his opponents.

My prediction is going to be in Light's favor. Effort simply hasn't shown the consistency to put him as a favorite above Light. Effort's ZvT wins have so often relied on taking advantage of his opponent's greed or risk-taking, but that style simply won't work against Light, whose TvZ often seems to be sheer perfection. Effort's skill is nothing to laugh at, so I expect him to take a game, but you simply can't argue with a 93% winrate. 3-1 Light.




Our second series contains a couple of much more popular players: (T)Sea vs (Z)Jaedong.

Sea has garnered himself quite a few TL fans from his past interactions with Team Liquid as well as his very friendly demeanor. Known for his lack of success in individual leagues compared to Proleague, this is his first time in the MSL Round of 8. Sea is a very good all-around player, and recently has been getting a boost in his individual league runs by the mid-game mech switch, the new vogue in TvZ that has been causing cries of imbalance from many fans. Indeed, he and Light both used this tactic to defeat their opponents on Day 1 of the Round of 8.

Jaedong. What is there to say about him? He's the undisputed best Zerg in the world right now. When he's not being cocky and trying to win with mutas alone... well, actually, even when he is being cocky and trying to win with mutas alone, he is a force to be reckoned with in any matchup.

Sea and Jaedong have actually faced off in 3 games recently. Their game on Fortress featured a map-abusing strategy by Jaedong to quickly secure 4 gas before Sea could even lift a finger to respond, ending in an easy win by Jaedong despite Sea's hard fight. On the Zerg-favored Dreamliner, Jaedong tried to make a point by using pure mutalisks to defeat Sea. His strategy worked quite well, but his refusal to even make zerglings ended up allowing Sea to defend with Valkyries and move out with a bio force in the end and crush every unit that Jaedong threw at him, in what one could practically call a thrown game. On Polaris Rhapsody, Sea abused the map and the mech switch to defeat Jaedong easily, despite a large disadvantage in the early game.

Sea's TvZ is not quite at the level of Light's, and Jaedong is much more experienced in Bo5s than Sea is, boasting a ridiculous 83.3% winrate in Bo5s. I expect that Jaedong is smart enough to find a way to overcome the mech switch, because we are guaranteed to see Sea using that strategy tonight. The question is whether Sea's execution will be up to par to defeat Jaedong regardless; Sea asserts that when well-used, the strategy is unbeatable. I'm sure Jaedong disagrees with that statement.

As an MBC fanboy, I want to say that I expect Sea to win this. As an SC fan, I want to say that I expect Jaedong to win and make ZvT seem possible again. In reality, I think this will be a very close matchup that will end up 3-2 either way. I'm going to give my best guess, though: 3-2 for Jaedong.




+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
(T)Light <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Triathlon> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Fighting Spirit> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Odd-Eye 3> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)EffOrt
(T)Light 3-1 (Z)EffOrt




(T)Sea <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Fighting Spirit> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Triathlon> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Odd-Eye 3> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea <Polaris Rhapsody> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Sea 1-3 (Z)Jaedong

(Z)Jaedong and (T)Light advance to play against each other in the semifinals!




+ Show Spoiler [Recommended Games] +
+ Show Spoiler [Light vs Effort Set 2] +
Poll: Recomment Light vs Effort set 2?

Yes (60)
 
91%

No (6)
 
9%

66 total votes

Your vote: Recomment Light vs Effort set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Fun wraith vs. mutalisk play in the beginning, into a good mech TvZ, with great play by the winner.

+ Show Spoiler [Light vs Effort Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend Light vs Effort set 3?

Yes (34)
 
81%

No (8)
 
19%

42 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Effort set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


WATCH NAO. Short, action-packed awesomeness. Ended up being a little one-sided, though, but only due to how amazing the winner's play was.

+ Show Spoiler [Light vs Effort Set 4] +
Poll: Recommend Light vs Effort set 4?

No (28)
 
56%

Yes (22)
 
44%

50 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Effort set 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Decent game. A decisive attack by the winner all over the map ends the game.

+ Show Spoiler [Light vs Effort Set 5] +
Not played

+ Show Spoiler [Sea vs Jaedong Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Sea vs Jaedong game 2?

Yes (56)
 
71%

No (23)
 
29%

79 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sea vs Jaedong game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Domination. Solid play by the winner, bad play by the loser. Not much to see here.

+ Show Spoiler [Sea vs Jaedong Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend Sea vs Jaedong game 3?

Yes (107)
 
93%

No (8)
 
7%

115 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sea vs Jaedong game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


One-sided game, but pretty decent.

+ Show Spoiler [Sea vs Jaedong Set 4] +
Poll: Recommend Sea vs Jaedong game 4?

Yes (46)
 
63%

No (27)
 
37%

73 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sea vs Jaedong game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Mindgame into GG

+ Show Spoiler [Sea vs Jaedong Set 5] +
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CoWsGoesMoo
Profile Joined June 2010
250 Posts
August 14 2010 00:26 GMT
#2
These coming games are gonna be epic.
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
August 14 2010 00:29 GMT
#3
i hope, i hope, i hope for jaedongs victory.!!
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
August 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#4
Wil the MBC terrans be able to take down the number 1 and the number 2 zerg? We shall see
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 14 2010 00:43 GMT
#5
Go go Jaedong. Rape TvZ imba!
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 00:47:27
August 14 2010 00:46 GMT
#6
Odd Eye 3, Triathlon, and PR again? There's no way either zerg advances. Even on "fair" maps, Light should win anyway. And Sea's TvZ is better than Jaedong's ZvT, statistically speaking.

Meh, time to look forward to the OSL.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 14 2010 00:46 GMT
#7
oh shit today is GONN BE FUCKIN EPIC.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 14 2010 00:50 GMT
#8
I so hope that Light and Sea both win today... though that will bring out yet more cries of terran imba.

In all likelyhood though, JD should take his set, as long as he has an answer to Sea's mech transition in the midgame (which is probably finish him off in the early game).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
August 14 2010 00:54 GMT
#9
go go go jaedong
and its ok to switch
no more hibris
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 01:02:07
August 14 2010 01:01 GMT
#10
I'm not going to be able to get up/stay up to watch this, but...

Screw terran. EffOrt, you got let down by Leta, but that's okay, because it's time to show Light a little bit of what forGG saw the other night, and beat the stuffing out of this guy. Triathalon is yours. Fighting Spirit is yours. Odd Eye is yours. Jaedong, I expect the same. The MSL is a step away from the most high quality semi-finals in progaming history, and MBC terrans are NOT going to get in your way.

GO EFFORT!
GO JAEDONG!

TO THE HILT!
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
August 14 2010 01:23 GMT
#11
Hype can't get any better. Can't wait to see some excellent Brood War. Sad that there aren't any protoss, hopefully they'll rebound, if not, let it be in SC II.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 14 2010 01:32 GMT
#12
On August 14 2010 09:10 matjlav wrote:
If anyone can make a cool banner, that would be awesome~

Wait you're saying this banner isn't cool?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 14 2010 01:32 GMT
#13
hoping for Effort/Sea, expecting Light/Jaedong.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 14 2010 01:36 GMT
#14
Don't see either Zerg advancing tbh, though I'll still hold out for a JD win.

Seriously, Triathlon again? Dear lord why
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
August 14 2010 01:37 GMT
#15
On August 14 2010 10:32 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 09:10 matjlav wrote:
If anyone can make a cool banner, that would be awesome~

Wait you're saying this banner isn't cool?


oh no i've accidentally given a backhanded insult to the MSL banner! oops

i fixed it
NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
August 14 2010 01:55 GMT
#16
Please no all terran final four.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 14 2010 02:03 GMT
#17
On August 14 2010 09:50 moopie wrote:
I so hope that Light and Sea both win today... though that will bring out yet more cries of terran imba.

In all likelyhood though, JD should take his set, as long as he has an answer to Sea's mech transition in the midgame (which is probably finish him off in the early game).

Well it really depends on how the terrans win. >< I mean if see completely out multitasks JD with drops everywhere and brilliant army control, no one will complain. The other option is not to pretty though :|
Jaedong
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 14 2010 02:08 GMT
#18
Hoping for Light and Jaedong.
No want TvT TvT semifinals, and Light vs Jaedong will be some sexy ZvT indeed.
And then Jaedong-Flash finals.

Make it happen, Dong!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
August 14 2010 02:13 GMT
#19
On August 14 2010 11:03 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 09:50 moopie wrote:
I so hope that Light and Sea both win today... though that will bring out yet more cries of terran imba.

In all likelyhood though, JD should take his set, as long as he has an answer to Sea's mech transition in the midgame (which is probably finish him off in the early game).

Well it really depends on how the terrans win. >< I mean if see completely out multitasks JD with drops everywhere and brilliant army control, no one will complain. The other option is not to pretty though :|


Completely agreed. Sea's pure bio play is such a treat to watch. It's so disappointing to me to just see him abuse his way to victory every game =/
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 14 2010 02:14 GMT
#20
Jaedong has never lost a Bo5 vs. Terran that wasn't a final. Ridiculous shit map pool be damned, Jaedong is fucking Jaedong
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