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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 08 2010 20:06 GMT
#1
With SC2 staying strictly with GOM, and no active progamers switching yet, it looks like we might have a 2010-2011 proleague.

Last year's offseason was fairly tame, with Midas going to WeMade, Kwanro going to Stars, and Jaedong staying on OZ. Let's look at what teams might be trying to accomplish:

KT Rolster: KT's performance in the grand final shows that they have quite a good terran and protoss lineup. However, they might be looking for a Zerg to replace Luxury. I'd guess they'd try to be realistic about it and go for depth instead of star power, getting a 2nd or 3rd tier zerg.

Possible additions: (Z)s2, n.Die_soO, Neo.G_Soulkey, (Z)hyvaa. I'd go with hyvaa personally, since Action is starting to look very strong and eSTRO is a poor team that might want more salary options.

Possible losses: None, as losing Lux hurt them enough.

SKT: Despite the finals loss SKT remains a strong, deep team that now has a strong lineup in all 3 races.

Possible additions: Very unlikely.

Possible losses: One of the zergs, or maybe Boxer if he decides to become a head coach or something, since he no longer plays in even prelims. T_T

MBC: They're a team that's been known to sell top players, and they might need a protoss. I'd guess they're staying put at this time though.

Possible additions: They're going to want a PvT specialist like (P)BeSt or (P)Snow to take out terran aces (meaning Flash), but they won't get one.

Possible losses: Maybe (Z)Saint or even (T)Light. Again, this is a team that's known to sell good players.

STX: They need a terran badly to replace Hwasin. Also, they're not really very good against Zergs.

Possible additions: (T)Light, (T)Mind, (T)Major, (T)BarrackS

Possible losses: I don't think they'll get rid of anyone.

WeMade: These guys have a 5 terran lineup of Baby, Mind, Nada, Major, and Midas. I'd say Baby, Nada, and Midas are safe, even though Nada costs a lot to keep on the roster. Roro is getting decent, but they might need a protoss better than Pure.

Possible additions: None. Everyone's going to keep a tight hold on any semi-decent toss.

Possible losses: (T)Mind or (T)Major, maybe.

CJ: The problem here is that they're a team of snipers. Without coach Cho they'll have less of a chance of getting good matchups, so unless (Z)KIMDONGWOO is really confident in his skill I'd say they go for someone well-rounded.

Possible additions: None. Well-rounded players like Sea, Stats, Violet will all stay on their teams.

Possible losses: Teams will want Snow as a Flash/Sea/Leta/other good terran ace sniper. They won't get him. Teams that lack terrans will want Iris, but I doubt he's going anywhere either.

Stars: They've needed a terran for a while. They still do.

Possible additions: See STX.

Possible losses: Maybe Soulkey. Depends how much potential he really has.

OZ: They badly need a protoss and someone who can play some ace matches instead of Jaedong.

Possible additions: None. They might beg for a young good toss like (P)Snow, (P)Flying, or (P)Stats, but they're paying Jaedong too much I bet.

Possible losses: Won't anyone take (P)PerfectMan? He's Perfect I tell you!

KHAN: Terran needed to replace FBH. Reality, Turn, and Sharp have all failed at becoming good A-team members.

Possible additions/losses: None probably, KHAN rarely makes transactions.

eSTRO: They have a good but inexperienced team. hyvaa might leave to free up salary for rising stars like Action, and especially if 1st overall draft pick hwata doesn't become a total flop.

Possible additions: No way. Poor team with some good young players.

Possible losses: hyvaa maybe. I think protoss-starved teams might go for Flying, but won't get him.

sparkyz: Need replacements for Yarnc/go.go/type-b as well as a good toss.

Possible additions: Unlikely they'll get anyone.

Possible losses: None, they're holding on tight as it is.

ACE: They're getting FBH and Rock! Please let them do ceremonies.

The two transactions I'd be least surprised at are:

(T)Light to STX
(Z)hyvaa to KT

Any thoughts or predictions?
Gnabgib
Profile Joined July 2009
United States381 Posts
August 08 2010 20:20 GMT
#2
Sigh. If only "Free Agency" was truly free agency.......

If a bidding war didn't start over Jaedong last year, there won't ever be one.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 08 2010 20:26 GMT
#3
I expect no trades except maybe for a couple B-teamers going to hite, if you expect trades you should be watching sports, not korean e-sports.

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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 08 2010 20:28 GMT
#4
On August 09 2010 05:26 r33k wrote:
I expect no trades except maybe for a couple B-teamers going to hite, if you expect trades you should be watching sports, not korean e-sports.


Trades would happen often in Korean E-Sports if the free agency didn't have some of the most retarded rules ive ever seen for a free agency. It pretty much prevents any top tier from being traded because nobody is going to ...what was it 3x the salary for a player to the team that you're getting the player from?

Lol not happening man. The top 3 make over 160.000 dollars a year.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 08 2010 20:28 GMT
#5
On August 09 2010 05:26 r33k wrote:
I expect no trades except maybe for a couple B-teamers going to hite, if you expect trades you should be watching sports, not korean e-sports.


There are always a few players bought/sold each year. The biggest ones in recent years have been July's travels from MBC to SKT to STX, and Bisu to SKT.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 08 2010 20:29 GMT
#6
i'd quite happily trade stars' entire b-team to hite for leta
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 08 2010 20:29 GMT
#7
On August 09 2010 05:28 Jayme wrote:
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On August 09 2010 05:26 r33k wrote:
I expect no trades except maybe for a couple B-teamers going to hite, if you expect trades you should be watching sports, not korean e-sports.


Trades would happen often in Korean E-Sports if the free agency didn't have some of the most retarded rules ive ever seen for a free agency. It pretty much prevents any top tier from being traded because nobody is going to ...what was it 3x the salary for a player to the team that you're getting the player from?

Lol not happening man. The top 3 make over 160.000 dollars a year.


Wow Light makes 70 million won. STX/Stars are gonna be seeking out a cheaper terran then.
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
August 08 2010 20:30 GMT
#8
Lol seriously, Jaedong was the giant contention, and Flash is definitely getting paid too much for anyone to double it. -_- Or jaedong... or Bisu...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 08 2010 20:35 GMT
#9
On August 09 2010 05:28 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 05:26 r33k wrote:
I expect no trades except maybe for a couple B-teamers going to hite, if you expect trades you should be watching sports, not korean e-sports.


There are always a few players bought/sold each year. The biggest ones in recent years have been July's travels from MBC to SKT to STX, and Bisu to SKT.

most likely he was talking about the free agent period
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 08 2010 20:47 GMT
#10
Dang, STX with Light would be so stacked. But not enough to beat KT lol. And remember, this is considering there is a Proleague next year since Blizzard said they would get rid of the SC1 progaming by like August/September or something. I really hope not, I loved the proleague and my favorite team, KT Rolster
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 08 2010 20:49 GMT
#11
On August 09 2010 05:47 Tazza wrote:
Dang, STX with Light would be so stacked. But not enough to beat KT lol. And remember, this is considering there is a Proleague next year since Blizzard said they would get rid of the SC1 progaming by like August/September or something. I really hope not, I loved the proleague and my favorite team, KT Rolster


STX is a huge company, if they want to get serious they can fork out the money for a good terran. Might not happen though.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 08 2010 20:49 GMT
#12
And remember, this is considering there is a Proleague next year since Blizzard said they would get rid of the SC1 progaming by like August/September or something.


What.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
August 08 2010 20:49 GMT
#13
I really hope some trades happen this time around, but since free agency hasnt gotten any less retarded, it doesnt look that way.
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
August 08 2010 21:00 GMT
#14
Oh man, I remember last year with the whole "free agency" trading thing with JD. It was thanks to the "free" agency that Midas went to a better use at FOX then a b-teamer in SKT. I really hope we have some good trades and potential players rising up thanks to these trades!

But what SKT really do need is a zerg ace and a secondary terran. I refuse to have Canata is terran #2 of SKT and mong/ssak is too young and ripe to be used. No way he'll be ready to tackle as the main line of SKT terran yet. As for zerg.... obvious reason, we definitely do need someone who's better than Hyuk or S2! (Not worth mentioning Soo, he's need to be gone imo.)
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
August 08 2010 21:01 GMT
#15
Would be nice if KT could pick up Kwanro tbh.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
August 08 2010 21:03 GMT
#16
RoO seemed pretty legit though. Wouldn't be surprised to see him getting more playtime in 10-11 season
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
August 08 2010 21:13 GMT
#17
If only Zero and free could start winning ACE matches T_T


light to woongjin would be <3
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 08 2010 21:29 GMT
#18
I wish they would pay Jaedong too much
Jaedong
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 21:54:26
August 08 2010 21:32 GMT
#19
SKT did just release quite a few B teamers, so they might be looking to but someone. Probably a fairly strong terran or zerg player to fill their lineup. They need a zerg more, but there's plenty of decent terrans that might join their team considering everyone is a team of terrans these days.
Doubt anyone will have too many changes though. We'll see.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 08 2010 21:43 GMT
#20
s2 isnt THAT bad. But if the current zerg coach could do wonders (for a while) with the zerg line, imagine what he could do with someone better.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
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