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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-16 00:15:08
April 15 2004 22:50 GMT
#1
SKY PRO LEAGUE 2004

Progaming in Korea has grown immensely over the past few years. Starting off as small tournaments in net cafes, the televised Starleagues now regularly defeat professioanl sports in the ratings. Not just a popular computer game anymore, Brood War has become Korea's 4th major professional sport alongside baseball, soccer, and basketball. The latest developlemt is OGN's new venture. OGN seeks to further obscure the line between pro sports and progaming.

Starting on April 17th, the SKY Pro League is the start of OGN's annual 40 week long pro team league. Every progaming team in Korea will compete in this huge league, which will eventually culminate in playoffs and a grand final.

The sheer scale of this league differentiates it from any other tournament. 40 weeks long, 2 broadcasts a week, 2 series per broadcast, 3 games per series. The money is good, too. Over 250,000,000 won (approximately $200,000) dollars are to be spent in prize money.


Competing Teams
All 11 Pro teams were invited

KTF Magic N's, SK T1 (previously 4Union), Suma Greatest Ones, Toona SG, Korea (KOR), Hanbitsoft, Hexatron Dream Team, Soul, Ktec Plus, Samsung Khan, POS (Pirates of Space)


Maps
1v1: Nostalgia, Neo Guillotine, Valley of Wind, XenoSky (Legacy of Char edit)
2v2: The Huntress, Vertigo Plus

The map maker/editor for OGN posted a long descriptive post here


Format
The format is the most complicated ever seen in progaming

Round 1
- The 11 teams play a round robin, 11 weeks and 44 matches in total
- Each series between two teams is a best 2 of 3, the order of games being 2v2 - 1v1 - 1v1
- At the end of round 1, the two teams with the most victories will face each other in a best 4 of 7 to decide the champion of the round

Round 2
- The team with the lowest win percentile in round 1 is temporarily eliminated
- The remaining 10 are divided into two groups of 5 according to their rankings in round 1. Each group plays a round robin, with a few additional games with between the two different groups. 11 weeks, 45 matches in total.
- Each series is best 2 of 3, but the order is 1v1 - 2v2 - 1v1
- At the end of the round, the first place teams from each group play in a best 4 of 7 round final.

Round 3
- The lowest ranked team from each group in round 2 face each other, with the losing team having to face the team temporarily eliminated from round 1. The loser of that match is eliminated from round 3
- The remaining 10 teams play in the same format as round 2
- Again, each series is best 2 of 3, but the other order is 1v1 - 1v1 - 2v2
- At the end of the round, the round champion is decided in the same method as round 2

Championship Series
- The 3 winners of each round compete, with a wild card being given to the team with the highest win percentile (asides from the round champions). If a single team has won more than one round, more wild cards are given.
- All matches are best 4 of 7
- Week 1: 4th vs 3rd / Week 2: 3rd vs 2nd / Week 3: 2nd vs 1st (Grand Final)
- It's unsure how the 4 teams will be ranked. It appears that the wild card team will receive 4th place, but the 3 round champions could be ranked by various standards (total win %, number of wins, etc).

For each series, each team is told what maps will be used in advance. The teams then select their lineup for the maps, but the lineup is not told to the other team. On the day of the games, each team's lineup is revealed to the other team.


Prize Money
The champion of each round will be given 70,000,000 won (approx. $60,000). The winner in the grand final will be given 40,000,000 won. There is probably some more prize money for various things, not revealed to the public.


Rambling
More BW tourneys is always good news. It's just that I've never really liked the pro league. There's not much that's wrong with it, in fact, there are a lot of good things about it. The format of hiding lineups till the day of the games allows for lots of interesting mind games. The fact that a single player can play only once emphasizes the overall strength of a team, unlike the MBCGame Team League (which is fun in its own way).

However, the fact that they insist on using 2v2 just kills this league for me. For most people, 2v2s are simply boring to watch. Even the best 2v2 games they've had just don't match up to the excitement of 1v1. Though it makes it different from the MBCGame Team League, it also makes it much worse.


The state of the pro teams might kill this league. Since KTF has purchased the most ridiculous team ever, the chance for decent competition looks slim. Everyone is predicting a war between KTF and SK T1, with all of the other teams trying to find a way to survive.

The role of the newcomers will be very important. If players like Casy, JulyZerg, Ddang, GoodFriend etc can realize their potential, the lower ranked teams could create some upsets and some fierce comeptition. The big, rich teamsvs the underdogs would be very interesting of the underdogs could put up a good fight.

However, the lineup of TheMarine, Sync, ArtOfHan, Nal_rA, Reach, Chojja and Yellow (the say he's going back to KTF) makes me doubt anyone's chances.


Anyway, this tourney is a good thing! Now, if only we could get VODs for the general public!

Hexatron Dream Team Fighting!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
April 15 2004 22:56 GMT
#2
that's one hell of a confusing format they have im going to have to read that over a couple of more times
AUSSIESCUM
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Levu
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany675 Posts
April 15 2004 23:05 GMT
#3
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
Time is a drug. Too much of it kills you. - Terry Pratchett
pinbaLL
Profile Joined March 2004
Sweden1711 Posts
April 15 2004 23:06 GMT
#4
wohoho!
- Evergrey - This is a fucking British flag, and these colours dont fucking run! - Bruce Dickinson
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
April 15 2004 23:25 GMT
#5
40 weeks?! how long was the last one?
I put the fu in fun
iggs999
Profile Joined February 2004
Russian Federation722 Posts
April 15 2004 23:48 GMT
#6
thats like a freakin year
hi
DoubleStormIII
Profile Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-16 00:19:20
April 16 2004 00:17 GMT
#7
It's 10 months. The last one was like 5 months or something.

I personally like 2v2...I mean, watching 1v1 all the time is just too boring. I guess it's just different from person to person. Some people like 2v2, and some don't.

XenoSky is the new version of Legacy of Char...changed a little bit. It was at first named Legacy of Char 2004, but they changed the name

Valley of Wind is the map that is being played over the Prematches of OSL. A 2-player half-island map, Terran-favored.

The maps can be changed by Round to Round. Rose.of.Dream, the main mapmaker of OGN, is planning to design a new 2v2 map for the 2nd Round



There are new rules added also.

1. For each team, no same races can come out on the same map twice. It's hard to explain with my poor English but I'll try my best If Nada (Toona SG) played on the map Nostalgia at one game, at the next game where Toona SG needs to play on Nostalgia, neither Nada nor GoodFriend can come out on the map, since they are Terran. Either Sir@Soni, Silver, or Nal_Rock should come up, since they are other races than Terran.

2. Members of the teamplay (2v2) cannot participate in 1v1 in that game (I'm not 100% sure about this, but people say that this is the new rue). For example, if ForU and Black (Suma GO) played as a team on 2v2, neither ForU nor Black cannot be in 1v1 at that game, so Xellos, GoRush or Ddang should be on 1v1 instead.



Anyway, I'm hoping to see some awesome games from this league
Double Storm On You!
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 16 2004 00:19 GMT
#8
wow, this is huge
DANCE ALL DAY
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
April 16 2004 00:24 GMT
#9
wow, those new rules make pro league suck more than it already did
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
April 16 2004 00:24 GMT
#10
transfer money's got to rise higher so companies are more limited in buying players. with amounts around 100k$ a single company could prolly afford to buy every single pro player out there at once.
guess the problem will solve itself during the next years tho when more sponsors enter the stage and more players turn pro.
Wirthi
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany395 Posts
April 16 2004 01:14 GMT
#11
Well, nice that pro gaming is more and more expanding. But on the other side: i will only get reports to read and only few games to see. Companies are smart enough to take the chance of the growing hype about the game but don't use the market potential outside Korea. A Serious mistake. Can't be that expensive to translate OGN page to english and put some english speaking commentators in the background, the return on such an investment would definitely pay off.
I would pay for viewing those games live or at least high speed vod dl.

What's the current price for a paid OGN account btw ?
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
April 16 2004 01:15 GMT
#12
wtf is a round robin? ><
aka StormtoSS
Wirthi
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany395 Posts
April 16 2004 01:36 GMT
#13
Each team plays all other teams. This would be 55 matches with 11 teams involved btw.
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
April 16 2004 02:53 GMT
#14
I think that 2v2 can be VEEERY entertaining ,its just its not played enough yet.There are lots of team strats waiting to be found...
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Gui
Profile Joined April 2004
Poland53 Posts
April 16 2004 03:34 GMT
#15
The format is gay.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
April 16 2004 03:39 GMT
#16
holy shit!
Pure fan
S(O)ME(O)NE
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada473 Posts
April 16 2004 03:46 GMT
#17
hmm we need to have a way to get vods.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
April 16 2004 03:50 GMT
#18
On April 16 2004 12:39 PaleMan wrote:
holy shit!


Holy shit indeed!

Btw, hi Paleman, thanks for all the VoDs! Always wanted to say that to you.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
benzoic-acid
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)427 Posts
April 16 2004 04:09 GMT
#19
is goodfriend on ktf too? someone wrote that in a thread
C6H7O2
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 16 2004 04:17 GMT
#20
Could someone write which players are on which major teams? I.E. KTF/SK/SUMA/TOONA?

It would be MUCH appreciated.

Thanks alot in advance.
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