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Moutas
Profile Joined April 2007
Greece158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 18:38:56
April 30 2010 18:38 GMT
#1
So I decided to sign-up for today's CraftCup tournament, little did I know how bad this tournament actually is...

I play and win the 1st round match for the Pre-grid, then for the 2nd round I'm matched up with nightend. I add him on f list and wait... After 5 minutes I send a report to the CraftCup admins asking what should I do if my opponent is not online, and what are the rules for this kinda thing. A few seconds later an admin contacts me on battle.net and says the wait is 15 minutes, so I wait... 20 minutes have passed and still nightend is not online, so I ask the admin "now what?" and he replies "ok np i gave u walkover, continue with the round 3 match".

I continue playing and win my round 3 match. So now I have a round 4 match to play, right? Wrong. Another admin now contacts me and says I have to go back and play my round 2 match cause nightend is now online and there was a misunderstanding. This has got to be a joke... I tell him that another admin gave me the walkover after 20 minutes of waiting, but he insists that I have to play my round 2 match otherwise he will kick me out of the tour. And I'm like "man u have rules and I followed them, why arent you doing the same?". I also ask him where are the rules that say anything about this matter. No response.

Clearly because the admins stuffed up now they were blaming me for round 2. Instead of him talking with the other admins and resolving this for future tournaments, he just kicks me out of the tour for what? I played my games, followed the rules, but it doesn't matter cause the CraftCup admin does whatever he wants and removes me from the tour.

What a well-run tournament... heads up people, CraftCup doesn't follow their own rules.
aka DeA & GRC-DeathLink
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
April 30 2010 18:39 GMT
#2
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ
Brood War forever!
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
April 30 2010 18:40 GMT
#3
sounds like special treatment to me
savior did nothing wrong
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
April 30 2010 18:40 GMT
#4
On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote:
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ


He wasn't asking for help, read his post and he says that it's a heads-up of how stupid they are.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
April 30 2010 18:41 GMT
#5
that sucks man, yeah sounds like that guy may have been a friend of admin or something.

Why run a tournament, make rules, and don't even abide by your own rules??
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Moutas
Profile Joined April 2007
Greece158 Posts
April 30 2010 18:41 GMT
#6
I don't want this forum to do anything, I'm just helping other players realize that this tournament does whatever they want.
aka DeA & GRC-DeathLink
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
April 30 2010 18:43 GMT
#7
On May 01 2010 03:40 KinosJourney2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote:
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ


He wasn't asking for help, read his post and he says that it's a heads-up of how stupid they are.


Still doesn`t make sense to post it here and try to bash a tournament that has been around for a long time. The proper way would be going to their website and talking to their admin`s about why it was handled this way and if they are going to do something about it. Maybe if you try being an admin of a tournament without chat channels you would realise how much of a pain it is.
Brood War forever!
Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
April 30 2010 18:43 GMT
#8
Sounds like a shotty deal if its true man. Nightend is mTw so infer from that what you will.

@Kralic he isn't trying to get the forum to do anything for him, he is sharing his experience with a popular tournament in the euro servers. What's that post doing for anyone?
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 30 2010 18:47 GMT
#9
Strange things can happen when money is involved. Although I wouldn't ruin the reputation of the tournament for an action of 1 admin.
Moutas
Profile Joined April 2007
Greece158 Posts
April 30 2010 18:47 GMT
#10
On May 01 2010 03:43 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 03:40 KinosJourney2 wrote:
On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote:
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ


He wasn't asking for help, read his post and he says that it's a heads-up of how stupid they are.


Still doesn`t make sense to post it here and try to bash a tournament that has been around for a long time. The proper way would be going to their website and talking to their admin`s about why it was handled this way and if they are going to do something about it. Maybe if you try being an admin of a tournament without chat channels you would realise how much of a pain it is.


I was talking to the admin for like 15 minutes and he never gave me a reasonable answer for why this issue was handled like this. What more could I have done? And btw, what does MTW have to do with anything?
aka DeA & GRC-DeathLink
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
April 30 2010 18:49 GMT
#11
On May 01 2010 03:47 GG.Win wrote:
Strange things can happen when money is involved. Although I wouldn't ruin the reputation of the tournament for an action of 1 admin.


you should. cause if everyone keeps doing it whenever admins cock up, eventually nobody will ever cock up again. not to mention how its necessary if we ever want any form of professional e-sports outside of korea.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
April 30 2010 18:50 GMT
#12
On May 01 2010 03:40 EleanorRIgby wrote:
sounds like special treatment to me


Sure does reek..
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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
April 30 2010 18:50 GMT
#13
On May 01 2010 03:43 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 03:40 KinosJourney2 wrote:
On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote:
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ


He wasn't asking for help, read his post and he says that it's a heads-up of how stupid they are.


Still doesn`t make sense to post it here and try to bash a tournament that has been around for a long time. The proper way would be going to their website and talking to their admin`s about why it was handled this way and if they are going to do something about it. Maybe if you try being an admin of a tournament without chat channels you would realise how much of a pain it is.


What don't you understand about his post? They would just delete his thread on their site and probably ban him for making them look bad.
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
April 30 2010 18:51 GMT
#14
Are you by chance Moutas? http://craftcup.com/ says a guy named Moutas was DQd and an explanation is forthcoming.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
April 30 2010 18:52 GMT
#15
this post should be a blog instead of a thread
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 30 2010 18:52 GMT
#16
it doesn't make sense at all to play round 3 then go back and play round 2 because it changes the entire outcome.

If you lose r2, then what? does nightend have to replay the guy you played in r3? so many variables
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
DanteStyle
Profile Joined July 2008
Belgium73 Posts
April 30 2010 18:52 GMT
#17
that is just horrible T_T damn that admin :/
i hate vgl-rage
HCastorp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States388 Posts
April 30 2010 18:53 GMT
#18
Obviously I don't know what happened, but it seems that if Nightend was DQed due to a mistake on the part of the tourney admins (as opposed to a mistake on his part that they decided to go easy on), their request that you play him would be reasonable. It would suck for you, but it would still be the least unfair option they had.
Moutas
Profile Joined April 2007
Greece158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 18:55:23
April 30 2010 18:53 GMT
#19
Yes I am Moutas.

On May 01 2010 03:52 CharlieMurphy wrote:
it doesn't make sense at all to play round 3 then go back and play round 2 because it changes the entire outcome.

If you lose r2, then what? does nightend have to replay the guy you played in r3? so many variables


Yeah I was thinking about that too. It's just ridiculous.
aka DeA & GRC-DeathLink
B.L.u.B.
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany36 Posts
April 30 2010 18:54 GMT
#20
well thats just normal in every rts tour ( bw, wc3, sc2 ) i played the "top players" got more privileges...
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