EPTEU CraftCup: what a joke - Page 11
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yiff
United States63 Posts
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Maista
Germany131 Posts
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Erucious
Norway393 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:18 Maista wrote: it wasnt nightends sc2 that had issues. please read carefully. Both players had the same problem Fair enough if this is indeed the case. But one person took initiative to resolve it by contacting admins, which is said to be the rules in this tournament. The other person didn't. | ||
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ghostnuke1234
164 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:07 Erucious wrote: I kinda agree with jinro to automatically seed the player for the next tourney so far up. To CraftCup Admin:: Since Nightend got his way in that tournament, i would like to see Moutas to get some kind of preferential treatment in the next tourney (for a lack of better words really). Maybe get him a bye into the 2nd round, or whatever. Nightend kinda *stole* Moutas place, and didnt have to play Round 3. Also, Nightend had nothing to lose saying that he wants to play for 2nd place match. Ofcourse he would agree to it. Moutas had lots of stuff to lose, he was in the 4th round only to get it stolen away. Also, you say that "the decision would be best solved on the battlefield", yet you give Nightend (who, again, had nothing to lose) the free win. This doesnt make sense at all! In short: - a bug happened that affected 2 players - 1 player got affected severly and couldnt respond to PM's/game invites - 1 player kept on playing and proceeded with the tourney Why let the guy thats stuck to the rules, and helped the tourney go further, why let him get DQ'ed and the guy that had issues with his PC/bnet/dog on fire take his spot? Not only that, but you literally just prove that your way of "checking if people are online" doesnt really work. Also, what were the cheating allegations? He didnt do anything wrong... The decision really baffles me. Yes, Erucious is right. They need to makeup to Moutas and seeding Moutas is one way of resolving this issue. The Craftcup admins need to think this through, acknowledge they handled the situation poorly, and makeup to Moutas for their poor administration. | ||
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Erucious
Norway393 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:20 Maista wrote: btw who said we made him actually go back, we jsut wanted him to play the match he skipped... And then? Let nightend skip round 3? (if nightend would win ofc) | ||
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Maista
Germany131 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:21 Erucious wrote: And then? Let nightend skip round 3? (if nightend would win ofc) i already commented on the skipping r3 issue and i persoanally apologized to Jdanzi | ||
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cartoon]x
United States606 Posts
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ghostnuke1234
164 Posts
On May 01 2010 08:53 FrozenArbiter wrote: I agree that it's a problem that 2 players were wronged by this decision, but seeding anyone would wrong 100s of players for the next cup... Those 100s of players would have to enter the tournament knowing a player is seeded because of an administrative mistake from the last tournament. If I were one of the 100s of players, I would have no issue if other players were seeded for a good reason. As long as the players for the next tournament know ahead of time what the tournament conditions are, it's quite fair. Many tournaments in sports have seeding one way or another. Seeding is something you deal with at tournaments and if you are a good player, the seeding becomes a non-factor as you will progress regardless. | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
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Erucious
Norway393 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:22 Maista wrote: i already commented on the skipping r3 issue and i persoanally apologized to Jdanzi I'm not sure I read you commenting on the skipping r3 issue. (i could be blind, but please point me to the post if you can) | ||
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einohr
Germany45 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:14 Maista wrote: you guys really think somebody should get a freewin because he clikced the "i want a freewin"-button faster than the other one? //rethorical question. Please do not answer it =) And Brotkohl who gave him the freewin is not a part of your team? | ||
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Maista
Germany131 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:28 einohr wrote: And Brotkohl who gave him the freewin is not a part of your team? As i stated in the release, his decision was based on 2 extremely wrong facts. | ||
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stolensheep
United Kingdom306 Posts
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Erucious
Norway393 Posts
And yes.. You literally gave nightend 2 FW's because of this..which even baffles me more | ||
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Maista
Germany131 Posts
My conclusion is this: Some people here have extremely different opinions than i do. I do my best to respects that. And i even respect if you dont care about CraftCups anymore. But please be so kind to also respect my opionion. I am not a stupid idiot who just runs around to annoy people and has fun with it. Btw did somebody read about the beer summit? Imho the best way to resolve conflics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_summit#.22Beer_Summit.22 i gotta get some sleep, gn8 all, was a pleasur to be your host | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:24 ghostnuke1234 wrote: Those 100s of players would have to enter the tournament knowing a player is seeded because of an administrative mistake from the last tournament. If I were one of the 100s of players, I would have no issue if other players were seeded for a good reason. As long as the players for the next tournament know ahead of time what the tournament conditions are, it's quite fair. Many tournaments in sports have seeding one way or another. Seeding is something you deal with at tournaments and if you are a good player, the seeding becomes a non-factor as you will progress regardless. Well, I guess... I hosted a beta-key contest tournament last summer, and due to an undiscovered map bug in the finals of one of them (hosted 4 tournaments total), I decided to seed the person affected into the next tournaments finals... However, since the finals were FFA, all this meant was that it was a 4 player FFA instead of a 3 player FFA... Seeding someone into this type of 1v1 tournament feels very awkward. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
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bohuslav
United States21 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:29 Maista wrote: As i stated in the release, his decision was based on 2 extremely wrong facts. And if the admins had realized he made a mistake before DeA played the next match, you could have corrected it then. But once he played the next match it's too late. You can't ask a player to put himself in a bad situation to cover a mistake made by an admin. | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
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