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agleed.agleed
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 19:51:01
April 30 2010 19:50 GMT
#61
[sarcasm]

it's very good for esports, especially even in the early stages of a game, for tournament admins to show such a professinal way of handling things

[/sarcasm]

whoever that admin was: you are an idiot.
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 19:52:33
April 30 2010 19:51 GMT
#62
On May 01 2010 03:53 HCastorp wrote:
Obviously I don't know what happened, but it seems that if Nightend was DQed due to a mistake on the part of the tourney admins (as opposed to a mistake on his part that they decided to go easy on), their request that you play him would be reasonable. It would suck for you, but it would still be the least unfair option they had.


if so, why hasn't the admin told him this?
his point was that they didn't give reasonable arguments at all
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 19:53:36
April 30 2010 19:52 GMT
#63
Name the admin that gave the bye and the admin that unDQ'd nightend. Have them both give there explanations publicly and make appropriate apologies and keep going with extra rules in place to handle such a situation for the future.

I don't see how breaking the rules going over 25mins late to a tourney can ever be allowed without getting confirmation from the opponent 1st that its ok otherwise the opponent is left staring at a monitor for 25mins which can affect play also.

Imo there is no way someone can be unDQ'd when they break the rules regardless when the opponent is made to play next round games.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 30 2010 19:52 GMT
#64
On May 01 2010 04:35 Erucious wrote:
On a one-day-tourney liek this, you can't just show up 30mins late. If everyone would do that you wouldnt be finished until next week.

Once an admin tells you you are through, and you already played your 3rd match, it should stand. If you didnt play your 3rd match yet then by all means, you should play your R2 match with Nightend.

This smells fishy... Even if Nightend was given a 30min "break" so to say, and the miscommunication happened on their end, you shouldn't be punished for it. In that case, i think Nightend shouldve been "punished" for it since he had to go where he had to play a game, permission or no permission.

Curious what they will say about this


This.

It's totally understandable to make you play your match with nightend if you haven't play r3 yet. But once you've already played r3 it's just plain retarded to make you go back and play nightend. Makes things way too complicated and is quite unfair.
MoMaN-
Profile Joined July 2009
France202 Posts
April 30 2010 19:52 GMT
#65
MorroW : rdy?
Vous : yes in 5min and go!
MorroW : k
Vous : go?
MorroW : no
admin gave me win
u cant just go ladder in middle of tournament
im playing other guy now
Vous : ?
i wasnt on ladder
stop i said you wait 5 min
stop be unfair
Vous : i wasnt ladder i was waiting you on the ladder
Vous : i was on the game wiating you and i was on the toilet....
i didnt play ladder
you are so bad manner
MorroW : admin told me u were playing
its not my fault
its too late now anyway
sorry
Vous : ... whuy you said me "ok"? for wait 5min
i was shitting
Vous : you always do that you are so fucking dumb



So i was on the tournament, i maked the game for the 3rd round vs Morrow and i said him wait 5 min, he said me ok, i was on the toilet "shitting" and what he did? he said at the admin i wasnt here and i was playing ladder!
And i maked the game for this match and he get the forfait! (it was exactly only 5min)

So morrow will never change, fucking bad manner with 2 bo on starcraft2 cheese marines scv or expand first... he is so funny! he is lucky starcraft2 willnot lan atm

And thx for the admin Cruft cup didnt do nothing! so you can take the win without play! nice admins saying me :

Maista dit :
for today youa re out, sorry
lets play later for that


ha ha ha nice morrow nice admins


http://craftcup.com/index.php?site=news

fucking so dumb

You can say "wtf" was 3 weeks before this story
?_?
Jdanzi
Profile Joined March 2010
England78 Posts
April 30 2010 19:54 GMT
#66
I was this guy's 3rd round opponent, I played like a phaggot and go owned. No I did not end up replaying game vs nightend, I believe nightend was simply advanced to round 5, where moutas should have been, lol. When I first read he was disqualified I assumed it was cheating, not something as retarded as this. Shame, as craftcup/conquercup was usually ran quite well.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 19:56:20
April 30 2010 19:55 GMT
#67
what the fuck.
p.s.:lol romanians.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Moutas
Profile Joined April 2007
Greece158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 19:57:14
April 30 2010 19:56 GMT
#68
The admin that gave me the walkover was brotkohl, the other admin that DQ'ed me said he was the head admin (dunno the name)
aka DeA & GRC-DeathLink
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#69
hey DeA (aka Moutas), why don't you tell everyone the full story? Actually Nightend was online all the time, but had some problems with SC2 (couldn't add friends and chat with you - smth like that). He asked me to do it instead, so I contacted you on battlenet but you ignored my messages.
We waited some more, and then Nightend contacted an admin and also sent them a print screen I made with me contacting you about the game.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#70
On May 01 2010 04:56 DeA wrote:
The admin that gave me the walkover was brotkohl, the other admin that DQ'ed me said he was the head admin.

what was his name?
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#71
On May 01 2010 04:57 cyclone25 wrote:
hey DeA (aka Moutas), why don't you tell everyone the full story? Actually Nightend was online all the time, but had some problems with SC2 (couldn't add friends and chat with you - smth like that). He asked me to do it instead, so I contacted you on battlenet but you ignored my messages.
We waited some more, and then Nightend contacted an admin and also sent them a print screen I made with me contacting you about the game.

put up the screen.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#72
On May 01 2010 04:52 MoMaN- wrote:
MorroW : rdy?
Vous : yes in 5min and go!
MorroW : k
Vous : go?
MorroW : no
admin gave me win
u cant just go ladder in middle of tournament
im playing other guy now
Vous : ?
i wasnt on ladder
stop i said you wait 5 min
stop be unfair
Vous : i wasnt ladder i was waiting you on the ladder
Vous : i was on the game wiating you and i was on the toilet....
i didnt play ladder
you are so bad manner
MorroW : admin told me u were playing
its not my fault
its too late now anyway
sorry
Vous : ... whuy you said me "ok"? for wait 5min
i was shitting
Vous : you always do that you are so fucking dumb



So i was on the tournament, i maked the game for the 3rd round vs Morrow and i said him wait 5 min, he said me ok, i was on the toilet "shitting" and what he did? he said at the admin i wasnt here and i was playing ladder!
And i maked the game for this match and he get the forfait! (it was exactly only 5min)

So morrow will never change, fucking bad manner with 2 bo on starcraft2 cheese marines scv or expand first... he is so funny! he is lucky starcraft2 willnot lan atm

And thx for the admin Cruft cup didnt do nothing! so you can take the win without play! nice admins saying me :

Maista dit :
for today youa re out, sorry
lets play later for that


ha ha ha nice morrow nice admins


http://craftcup.com/index.php?site=news

fucking so dumb

You can say "wtf" was 3 weeks before this story

Holy shit thats a pussy move by Morrow.

Of course hes like 17 so that kind of immaturity doesn't stun me.
Moutas
Profile Joined April 2007
Greece158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 20:01:11
April 30 2010 19:59 GMT
#73
On May 01 2010 04:57 cyclone25 wrote:
hey DeA (aka Moutas), why don't you tell everyone the full story? Actually Nightend was online all the time, but had some problems with SC2 (couldn't add friends and chat with you - smth like that). He asked me to do it instead, so I contacted you on battlenet but you ignored my messages.
We waited some more, and then Nightend contacted an admin and also sent them a print screen I made with me contacting you about the game.


You msged me when I was finishing my 3rd match and said something about him being online. I had him f added the whole time and he was never online. How come I could contact my previous opponents just fine and his account had a problem? And if he did have a problem then why not contact an admin sooner to resolve the matter? Why wait until I am ready to play my 4th round match?

And you think brotkohl didn't check to see if he was online or not?
aka DeA & GRC-DeathLink
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 20:01:58
April 30 2010 20:00 GMT
#74
On May 01 2010 04:57 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 04:52 MoMaN- wrote:
MorroW : rdy?
Vous : yes in 5min and go!
MorroW : k
Vous : go?
MorroW : no
admin gave me win
u cant just go ladder in middle of tournament
im playing other guy now
Vous : ?
i wasnt on ladder
stop i said you wait 5 min
stop be unfair
Vous : i wasnt ladder i was waiting you on the ladder
Vous : i was on the game wiating you and i was on the toilet....
i didnt play ladder
you are so bad manner
MorroW : admin told me u were playing
its not my fault
its too late now anyway
sorry
Vous : ... whuy you said me "ok"? for wait 5min
i was shitting
Vous : you always do that you are so fucking dumb



So i was on the tournament, i maked the game for the 3rd round vs Morrow and i said him wait 5 min, he said me ok, i was on the toilet "shitting" and what he did? he said at the admin i wasnt here and i was playing ladder!
And i maked the game for this match and he get the forfait! (it was exactly only 5min)

So morrow will never change, fucking bad manner with 2 bo on starcraft2 cheese marines scv or expand first... he is so funny! he is lucky starcraft2 willnot lan atm

And thx for the admin Cruft cup didnt do nothing! so you can take the win without play! nice admins saying me :

Maista dit :
for today youa re out, sorry
lets play later for that


ha ha ha nice morrow nice admins


http://craftcup.com/index.php?site=news

fucking so dumb

You can say "wtf" was 3 weeks before this story

Holy shit thats a pussy move by Morrow.

Of course hes like 17 so that kind of immaturity doesn't stun me.

Morrow just prolly has beef with Mamon. Given how Mamon gets sometimes i wont be jumping on hate Morrow bandwagon just for that lil thing.

id just like to clarify i have nothing against moman just you know your manners can be irritating sometiems ie last Zotac vs naniwa?^^
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 30 2010 20:03 GMT
#75
On May 01 2010 04:59 DeA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 04:57 cyclone25 wrote:
hey DeA (aka Moutas), why don't you tell everyone the full story? Actually Nightend was online all the time, but had some problems with SC2 (couldn't add friends and chat with you - smth like that). He asked me to do it instead, so I contacted you on battlenet but you ignored my messages.
We waited some more, and then Nightend contacted an admin and also sent them a print screen I made with me contacting you about the game.


You msged me when I was finishing my 3rd match and said something about him being online. I had him f added the whole time and he was never online. How come I could contact my previous opponents just fine and his account had a problem? And if he did have a problem then why not contact an admin sooner to resolve the matter? Why wait until I am ready to play my 4th round match?

And you think brotkohl didn't check to see if he was online or not?

Not gonna take sides here, but yesterday nobody could see me as online despite me being online - so it's possible that's what Nightend had.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
mynameisbean
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia82 Posts
April 30 2010 20:04 GMT
#76
loll some people going on about how 'oh it was probably just miscommunication' etc.

???

he played past the round. making him go back to play round 2 is stupid - I dont know how it even works?? that's not miscommunication. that's just plain noobication. (o snap i just made up a word).

anywho, it's like what they say:

what you see is usually only just the tip of the iceberg. (i.e., for every one admin you find out that's this noob, 10 more that you didn't find out about are probably exactly as nooblike).
You aint worth a Bean. - Poke.
Jdanzi
Profile Joined March 2010
England78 Posts
April 30 2010 20:05 GMT
#77
Yeh, to be fair I have seen that bug happen, was weird though cause I could still invite the guy to my game.
buKe
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada168 Posts
April 30 2010 20:05 GMT
#78
this has also happened in wc3's zotac cup with admins favoring bigger names. i believe nightend also had an incident in zotac awhile back accusing someone of mh (who wasnt hacking) and getting the forfeit win after he initially lost.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 30 2010 20:06 GMT
#79
yea but another point to consider is that even if what Cyclone says is correct it would give grounds to disqualify Moutas, yes, but not to advance Nightend. One thing is 100% certain is that Nightend has received preferred treatment.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
April 30 2010 20:08 GMT
#80
Yeah, even with the forced forfeit of Moutas, you'd think Nightend would have to repeat the Round 3 game that Moutas had previously already won.
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