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On May 01 2010 05:28 Maista wrote: admin note from CraftCup:
What Moutas was doing was very close to cheating. Explanation will be posted during the evening "hi your opponent broke 2 of our rules IT'S LIKE YOU ARE CHEATING, BASTARD, DQ'D!!!!!"
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Hey head admin, explain...
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On May 01 2010 05:34 mistermetal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2010 05:25 Erucious wrote: Even if Nigthend had a seizure, his dog was on fire, his pizza was late, even if his game is bugged, it doesnt matter. If he cant play within a certain amount of (Reasonable, in this case 15mins) time, he should get DQ'ed for not showing up.
He can sit and tell his friend to tell the tourney director that "hes online but the game isnt working" the entire day, but that doesnt get the match played, and with that, halting the progress of the tourney. This, if your gear isnt ready/working its your own fault, even if its out of your control. You are a race car driver, and your teams car breaks down, and is unfix able because a gasket/belt/computer system broke, they wont pause the race and wait for you. It shouldnt matter that Night was online, he was unable to play and keep pace and is there fore DQ's. How is it cheating if you cant see your opponent and neither can anyone else other than his "friend" id also like to see the screen shot that was sent. also further evidence of favoritism is just going to hurt the tournament, sure your best friend could be eliminated but its his loss.
Can you guys give some more related examples please? I still don't get it :o Jokes aside, why so much explanation for something that's very easy to understand: some players have a bug in SC2 where others can't see them online. That's all.
Now let's wait for admins explanation, because from the info I got in this thread I think too admins made the wrong choice in making DeA go back to his round 2 game. But I'm not sure if we know the full story behind it ^^
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I don't care who broke the rules and should have been disqualified, the lack of proper communication among admins and between admins and players is appalling and should not be tolerated. Two admins should never be giving players conflicting answers, which clearly happened here regardless of what the players were doing.
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Good to know you're the head admin. Why not just say what happened? Since you already made a decision on what to do with DeA and Nightend, you already have concluded your decision and should stand by it really.
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Hmm...i'm very interested in the official explanation.
The way I see it, even if nightend had problems with his bnet and was invisible and couldn't chat (which seems like a legit bug based on the number of people who have had it happen to), once the OP had finished playing his round 3 game, that should've been the end of it. It sucks, but shit happens. If OP still had not finished or played his round 3 game, then it makes perfect sense to make him replay round 2. Additionally, one of the admins told OP to go ahead and play round 3. Not only that, but nightend got immediately advanced and didn't even have to play round 3! At the very least, nightend should've been forced to play round 3.
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On May 01 2010 05:41 Erucious wrote: Good to know you're the head admin. Why not just say what happened? Since you already made a decision on what to do with DeA and Nightend, you already have concluded your decision and should stand by it really. Finals and semis are currently going on, he might be busy with those right now.
On May 01 2010 05:42 Ryuu314 wrote: Hmm...i'm very interested in the official explanation.
The way I see it, even if nightend had problems with his bnet and was invisible and couldn't chat (which seems like a legit bug based on the number of people who have had it happen to), once the OP had finished playing his round 3 game, that should've been the end of it. It sucks, but shit happens. If OP still had not finished or played his round 3 game, then it makes perfect sense to make him replay round 2. Additionally, one of the admins told OP to go ahead and play round 3. Not only that, but nightend got immediately advanced and didn't even have to play round 3! At the very least, nightend should've been forced to play round 3. nightend didnt even play round 2.
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On May 01 2010 05:43 Chriamon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2010 05:41 Erucious wrote: Good to know you're the head admin. Why not just say what happened? Since you already made a decision on what to do with DeA and Nightend, you already have concluded your decision and should stand by it really. Finals and semis are currently going on, he might be busy with those right now. Or busy trying to make the untruthful explanation sound believable enough as to not completely turn the tournament from merely a joke into a full-fledged circus.
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On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote: And this forum is going to do what for youÉ he wants us to spread the word. this is how social change happens:
duly noted — fuck craftcup
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Someone whisper to nightend and tell him to post on this forum ^-^
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That an admin could come to the conclusion that it was a good idea to let Nigthend play even tho he broke the rules, even if it wasn't intentional, blows my mind.
Things like this happening already makes me sad:<
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Even if there were valid reasons for placing Nightend back in instead of the OP, I don't get why he was allowed to skip over the 3rd and 4th round and hop right into the 5th... Ah, no wonder since it's not what happened.
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I can understand they are busy with the last rounds. Give them a few hours to concoct a statement. But i agree, nightend skipping rounds just baffles me as well.
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WOw go look at craftcups brackets on their site!! It shows moutus getting the win in R2 over nightend and moutus winning R3 and then it shows night end didnt even play r3 (but his match with moutus was r2!!) looks like the GAVE NIGHTEND Moutus's spot in R4!!! Thats just wrong!
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On May 01 2010 05:48 Bane_ wrote: Even if there were valid reasons for placing Nightend back in instead of the OP, I don't get why he was allowed to skip over the 3rd and 4th round and hop right into the 5th...
Stop posting like this if you don't know what happened lol ... Nightend played round 4 vs Drafter and won the game. He skipped round 3 because that opponent wasn't online anymore.
As I said, let's wait for admins explanation.
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Im realy sry that this happend .. So i came on bnet at around 18.30 cet iv check-in in the cup then i waited the cup to start, after the cup started i saw i was in second round so i waited my oponent , after waiting like 30 min at 19.30 he won hi's first round so we had to play , i tryed to contact him but he didnt aswer nor i got any message from him , after 10 15 min after he was on the grid as winner of the 1st round iv asked 2 of my friend's to talk with him but he didnt answer so i just reported the problem on the crafcup site and after that in a few min one admin contacted me and he told me i got defloss becouse my opp said im offline after that i talked with him and he said he cant put me in the grid back becouse my opp was already playing round 3 and i was like wtf, he told me that another admin did a mistake and that we can play only if he will win round 3 if not he cant repair the situation and i said oke shit happen's , and luckly for me he won round 3 and admin told him about the mistake and asked him to play the round 2 but he didnt want to he was happy he got fw , what he is saying that he already played round 3 when my friend contacted i think its a lie but i cant prove that , the thing is i waited like 1 hour or more to play round 2 and he asked in 5 10 min for fw and after admin told him man u have to play round 2 we made a mistake he would get directly in to round 4 since he won round 3 so pls understand this i didnt ask for FW even if i waited 1 hour he did ask for fw after he waited 5 10 min , yes one admin did the mistake by giving him fw but this mistake could have been simply repaired if he had accpted to play the round 2 the truth is he didnt get what he wanted and that was a FW and now is crying about admin beign "friend" with me wich is lol becouse its first time in my life that i have a chat with any of thoes craftcups admins
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On May 01 2010 05:53 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2010 05:48 Bane_ wrote: Even if there were valid reasons for placing Nightend back in instead of the OP, I don't get why he was allowed to skip over the 3rd and 4th round and hop right into the 5th... Stop posting like this if you don't know what happened lol ... Nightend played round 4 vs Drafter and won the game. He skipped round 3 because that opponent wasn't online anymore. As I said, let's wait for admins explanation.
After I was DQ'ed my 3rd round opponent was still online for like 10-15 minutes, he even messaged me later and asked what happened.
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Finnaly more of the story. So many harsh judgements in this thread it is pretty pathetic. I am still reserving my final retarded comment for when all 3 stories are told. Of course 2 of them might be false but go together so someone is proved wrong! /tinfoil cap
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On May 01 2010 05 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 01 2010 05 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:53 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2010 05:48 Bane_ wrote: Even if there were valid reasons for placing Nightend back in instead of the OP, I don't get why he was allowed to skip over the 3rd and 4th round and hop right into the 5th... Stop posting like this if you don't know what happened lol ... Nightend played round 4 vs Drafter and won the game. He skipped round 3 because that opponent wasn't online anymore. As I said, let's wait for admins explanation.
Not true, upon learning that he was disqualified I hastily lept back on to battle net to find out what was happening, I even asked an admin. All i was told was that the guy I played was disqualified there was no mention of replaying any games.
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On May 01 2010 04:52 MoMaN- wrote:MorroW : rdy? Vous : yes in 5min and go! MorroW : k Vous : go? MorroW : no admin gave me win u cant just go ladder in middle of tournament im playing other guy now Vous : ? i wasnt on ladder stop i said you wait 5 min stop be unfair Vous : i wasnt ladder i was waiting you on the ladder Vous : i was on the game wiating you and i was on the toilet.... i didnt play ladder you are so bad manner MorroW : admin told me u were playing its not my fault its too late now anyway sorry Vous : ... whuy you said me "ok"? for wait 5min i was shitting Vous : you always do that you are so fucking dumb So i was on the tournament, i maked the game for the 3rd round vs Morrow and i said him wait 5 min, he said me ok, i was on the toilet "shitting" and what he did? he said at the admin i wasnt here and i was playing ladder! And i maked the game for this match and he get the forfait! (it was exactly only 5min) So morrow will never change, fucking bad manner with 2 bo on starcraft2 cheese marines scv or expand first... he is so funny! he is lucky starcraft2 willnot lan atm And thx for the admin Cruft cup didnt do nothing! so you can take the win without play! nice admins saying me : Maista dit : for today youa re out, sorry lets play later for that ha ha ha nice morrow nice admins http://craftcup.com/index.php?site=newsfucking so dumb You can say "wtf"  was 3 weeks before this story
wow if thats true any respect I had for Morrow is gone... That is just very bad manner and don't know why Morrow would do that...
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