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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 21:49:18
April 30 2010 21:36 GMT
#141
well the tourney is over now jinro wins over huk 3/1 , I can't wait to see how they explain their own brackets showing moutus over nightend r2, moutus wins r3 and then nightend takes motous spot in r4. when they dq'd moutus for arguing about playing r2 after he played r3 and then nightend doesnt have to play r2 or r3!!
:)
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
April 30 2010 21:39 GMT
#142
Tbh nightend didn't do what he should have and contact the admins straight away, he waited a million hours to get his friend to contact the Moutas while Moutas was in game.

brotkohl is said to be able to confirm that Nightend wasn't online, Moutas checked with admins multiple times but nightend didn't clearly. Had nightend contacted an admin when he said 5-10mins and not the 25mins Moutas actually waited then that admin would have instantly friend added moutas to check his online status; but that didn't happen showing no contact to an admin during the required times upto 25mins after game start time when an admin had been checking on nightends online status.

It's pretty clear the 2nd admin skrewed up and he and the friend of nightend just don't add up with what is being said.

P.S. Not that I care but just make a Rule to sort things out for the future.
araged
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic189 Posts
April 30 2010 21:39 GMT
#143
On May 01 2010 06:30 Reborn8u wrote:
wow im watching the finals and the announcer just left to smoke when its 2/1 in a bo5


Another reason to keep an eye on next CraftCup! ...or not
heh?
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
April 30 2010 21:43 GMT
#144
And so the sc2 scandals begin!!

Now I will beat a pro a pro when the odds are against me and make that pro millions!! BWAHAHAHA.
"Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined." Learn how to post: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting
DrSmoke
Profile Joined April 2010
United States175 Posts
April 30 2010 21:49 GMT
#145
That is bs. Show up to work a few hours late and see what happens to your ass. If what I read is true, then you don't show up you lose.

I've seen a couple of people talk about delaying a match for hours or day, that is ridiculous. When you are supposed to be somewhere at a specific time, you do it, otherwise you lose. How would a tournament of any decent size ever finish, if every other person was allowed to just show up whenever they felt like it.
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
April 30 2010 21:52 GMT
#146
On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote:
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ


This tournament deserves to be exposed for bullshit like this.

That being said, I would have just played nightend even if I was pissed off about it.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
April 30 2010 21:56 GMT
#147
On May 01 2010 05:55 mTwNightEnD wrote:
GIANT WALL OF TEXT


Paragraphs and punctuation. Look it up. It's an unreadable mess right now.
You can figure out the other half.
AureS
Profile Joined June 2007
France108 Posts
April 30 2010 21:58 GMT
#148
die craft cup stop suck dick
Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
April 30 2010 21:59 GMT
#149
On May 01 2010 06:52 Ronald_McD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote:
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ


This tournament deserves to be exposed for bullshit like this.

That being said, I would have just played nightend even if I was pissed off about it.


Its kinda double-edged this one. Yeah you could play it again because you want to prove that you are better, and that you deserve to be there. Then again, you wan to get deep into the tournament as well.
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
April 30 2010 22:02 GMT
#150
On May 01 2010 06:59 Erucious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 06:52 Ronald_McD wrote:
On May 01 2010 03:39 Kralic wrote:
And this forum is going to do what for youÉ


This tournament deserves to be exposed for bullshit like this.

That being said, I would have just played nightend even if I was pissed off about it.


Its kinda double-edged this one. Yeah you could play it again because you want to prove that you are better, and that you deserve to be there. Then again, you wan to get deep into the tournament as well.


Yeah, but he got kicked out for not playing nightend anyways.
Some people won't stand for that kind of bullshit
But I'm kinda easy going so I would have just played the games and had fun.

Not saying he did the wrong thing by refusing to play the games, nightend should have been disqualified for not showing up.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
April 30 2010 22:05 GMT
#151
"I continue playing and win my round 3 match. So now I have a round 4 match to play, right? Wrong. Another admin now contacts me and says I have to go back and play my round 2 match cause nightend is now online and there was a misunderstanding. This has got to be a joke... I tell him that another admin gave me the walkover after 20 minutes of waiting, but he insists that I have to play my round 2 match otherwise he will kick me out of the tour. And I'm like "man u have rules and I followed them, why arent you doing the same?". I also ask him where are the rules that say anything about this matter. No response.

Clearly because the admins stuffed up now they were blaming me for round 2. Instead of him talking with the other admins and resolving this for future tournaments, he just kicks me out of the tour for what?"

Doesn't sound like he refused to play just demanded an explanation of the decision and the rules and was kicked. Even though an admin gave him the win, he's supposed to play r2 after r3, so instead of giving him 1 win they gave nightend 2 wins and gave him moutus' spot in r4
:)
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
April 30 2010 22:08 GMT
#152
I thought it was implied that he refused to play and got kicked out.
But he got kicked out just for asking a clarification on the rules? That's just stupid.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
Moutas
Profile Joined April 2007
Greece158 Posts
April 30 2010 22:15 GMT
#153
I refused to play until the head admin showed me what rule supports his decision. Since he didn't provide me any such rule, I decided not to play.
aka DeA & GRC-DeathLink
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 22:16:45
April 30 2010 22:16 GMT
#154
(Based on current information)

This seems like one of those situations were there simply isn't any fair solution. Overall the admins should've let Dea continue though. I mean, if you can't trust their word, then the cup is in trouble.

I hope DeA gets an apology and everybody can live happily ever after!
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
April 30 2010 22:17 GMT
#155
I wish flash wouldve refused to play lol
:)
StewKer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States301 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 22:21:40
April 30 2010 22:20 GMT
#156
I gotta admit I'm with Moutas/Dea here. He followed the rules, contacted admins when he should have, and played his matches promptly. Moutas did nothing wrong at all, not even a little bit. He should not have been disqualified. Favoritism in a tournament is a big no, no. It doesn't matter who it is.

/sarcasm on.

Yay, for having rules and not following them!!
/sarcasm off.

"i didnt ask for FW even if i waited 1 hour he did ask for fw after he waited 5 10 min".

He waited 20 minutes and I believe him, after 20 minutes the admin gave him a pass. Moutas followed the rules and got an initial fw. You did not. Next time follow the rules. I know you think you were being nice not asking for a FW but rules are rules even if they are only implied. If you cannot get in touch with your opponent let someone know promptly.

Admins were retarded in every way letting this go down the way it did. /facepalm
HerO Fan! || Coming back to SC2 is like finding an old friend!
Tone_
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom554 Posts
April 30 2010 22:21 GMT
#157
On May 01 2010 06:27 bohuslav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 06:22 Tone_ wrote:
I appreciate the frustration but the CraftCup guys do do a good job and people shouldn't feel put off by this post / incident.


People shouldn't feel put off only if the admins explain what happened forthrightly and apologize at least for giving Moutas conflicting information and generally making boneheaded decisions.


If you don't want to play in a free, prizepool tournament then don't. Not going to be top quality all the time.
Hasta La Victoria Siempre | 톤
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 22:24:05
April 30 2010 22:22 GMT
#158
On May 01 2010 06:05 Fogul wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=xDkFaT only 34 viewers for Huk vs Jinro final O_O


My predictions if the matches aren't played:

Game 1: Huk 4 gates all in, Huk Wins
Game 2: Huk 4 gates all in, Jinro Wins
Game 3: Huk 4 gates all in, Jinro Wins
Game 4: Huk 4 gates all in, Jinro Wins

Exciting Series!

avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 30 2010 22:35 GMT
#159
On May 01 2010 07:22 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 06:05 Fogul wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=xDkFaT only 34 viewers for Huk vs Jinro final O_O


My predictions if the matches aren't played:

Game 1: Huk 4 gates all in, Huk Wins
Game 2: Huk 4 gates all in, Jinro Wins
Game 3: Huk 4 gates all in, Jinro Wins
Game 4: Huk 4 gates all in, Jinro Wins

Exciting Series!



lol sounds pretty accurate, though that could describe any protoss
Sup
WoKKeLs
Profile Joined December 2009
Netherlands65 Posts
April 30 2010 22:53 GMT
#160
any tournament that doesnt follow their own rules should really reconsider what they want todo with their system. as soon as the'res any favoritism then they fail in my eyes. Having 15minut waiting period and someone shows at 30minuts and next round hasnt been played yet ye sure admin can enforce a match still being played but playing r3 and then enforcing r2 to be replayed is just bullshit even the kicking of a player for that reason should be unacceptable for an head admin. and they should show that they see the problem and atleast write a appology for this behavior and enforce it not to happen again.

they attach a price to the cup aint it? should show some professionalism then if you ask me and atleast follow the rules that they made up and not adjust them cause they want some name to be playing all his games.
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