EPTEU CraftCup: what a joke - Page 2
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FortuneSyn
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
Basing the facts off one disgruntled person over the weeks this tournament has been run I would have to call this story the truth bent a little bit. There is most likely more behind this story. I could also be wrong and this could be the entire truth. | ||
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
On May 01 2010 03:53 HCastorp wrote: Obviously I don't know what happened, but it seems that if Nightend was DQed due to a mistake on the part of the tourney admins (as opposed to a mistake on his part that they decided to go easy on), their request that you play him would be reasonable. It would suck for you, but it would still be the least unfair option they had. One of their rules is: Coming to late 15 minutes will most likely result in a defloss. So, if all is as he said, they had no right to DQ him. | ||
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Roniii
United States289 Posts
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chuky500
France473 Posts
It's just not fair to claim a free win because someone was 5 minutes late (15+ 5 minutes). Just like if in the streets someone would drop some money, he would notice and you would still want to take the money just because you were closer from the bill. edit: I didn't see you were kicked from the tournament, that's a lot different I guess. | ||
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andeh
United States904 Posts
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
On May 01 2010 03:58 chuky500 wrote: you waited 20 minutes and expected a free win ? I really hate when I'm not in front of my computer in a tournament and after 5 minutes on irc my opponent is already begging for a free win. Well, not begging but asking "what should I do" and things like that in public. I played several tourneys in clanbase and it's very common to play your scheduled games 2 hours later or even a few days after, even if the opponent did not show up. It's just not fair to claim a free win because someone was 5 minutes late (15+ 5 minutes). Just like if in the streets someone would drop some money, he would notice and you would still want to take the money just because you were closer from the bill. Actually, the guy was 25 minutes late if you read the first post. He was 5 min late, then admin told him to wait 15 mins. He said he waited 20 more, thats a total of 25. The rules say DQ after 15 mins, so your point is moot. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
I played several tourneys in clanbase and it's very common to play your scheduled games 2 hours later or even a few days after, even if the opponent did not show up. That's totally different from this type of 1 day tournament. These tournaments don't work unless everyone shows up on time. | ||
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
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chuky500
France473 Posts
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ejitoss
Canada24 Posts
On May 01 2010 03:58 chuky500 wrote: you waited 20 minutes and expected a free win ? I really hate when I'm not in front of my computer in a tournament and after 5 minutes on irc my opponent is already begging for a free win. Well, not begging but asking "what should I do" and things like that in public. I played several tourneys in clanbase and it's very common to play your scheduled games 2 hours later or even a few days after, even if the opponent did not show up. It's just not fair to claim a free win because someone was 5 minutes late (15+ 5 minutes). Just like if in the streets someone would drop some money, he would notice and you would still want to take the money just because you were closer from the bill. edit: I didn't see you were kicked from the tournament, that's a lot different I guess. free win? dude its a tourny if the guy does not show up in time it's his problem. Some people dont have all day to play a tourny if everyone start showing late the tourny wont work at all. Hell come in late 20 minutes everyday at work u will get fired same thing here. Sux for the guy | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
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ROOTslush
Canada170 Posts
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
On May 01 2010 04:05 chuky500 wrote: yes but still 25 minutes is not much, first rounds always happen at the same time I think you are missing the point. Its not a matter of, "Is 25 minutes too much?" its a matter of 25 mins > 15 mins, and the admin DQ'd him as per the rules. Then the second admin decided to unDQ him after the round 3 match was already played. | ||
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HCastorp
United States388 Posts
I guess I was thinking that there are only two ways I can imagine that the tourney admins would have handled the situation this way: 1) Nightend left for awhile or w/e without contacting anyone, but they decided to let him back into the tournament becasue of some kind of favoritism. This would be really stupid and it seems unlikely that they would do this, although if they did, they deserve all the rage in this thread and more. 2) The admin who told Moutas to take a free win and move on was wrong for some reason. Perhaps Nightend had contacted another admin and received some kind of permission to be gone for some length of time. Which seems reasonable. Once the mistake was discovered, asking Moutas to go back and play round 2, while awful, is still less unfair than disqualifying Nightend would be. It still wouldn't let the admins off the hook, because the situation would never have arisen if they communicated properly, but it seems like a more reasonable mistake. | ||
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AdahnSC
United States376 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
On May 01 2010 04:06 SLush wrote: The admin should resign to keep the integrity of this tournament. Yes really he should. | ||
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Setz3R
United States455 Posts
On May 01 2010 04:05 chuky500 wrote: yes but still 25 minutes is not much, first rounds always happen at the same time First round, second round, regardless, if he waits any longer than 30 minutes he is holding up the rest of the tournament. Especially a tournament that is moving over 256 people at a time--trying to finish at a reasonable hour is quite a goal in itself. We've seen several tournaments in the US that have been delayed already--those were a pain to watch sometimes. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
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