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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Power Rank is back! Check your right hand sidebar customization.
New Power Rank up: February '12
This thread will have spoilers.
The Power Rank still exists, but its removal from the right sidebar stifled discussion. While inveterate readers of the Power Rank may still frequent the now-hidden thread, more casual frequenters of TL may not notice it. Add to that amount the new people that find Brood War each season, and you've got a sizable number of Brood War-following members who won't view the Power Rank, other than when a new one appears in News every so often.
I think a discussion thread is needed. So, let's talk here. Who's hot? Who't not? Is your favorite player suddenly showing marked improvement in his micro/macro/ZvT/hairstyle? Have you noticed a new player that's stealthily creeping his way into the big leagues? Is a former star slumping? Was Shine a flash in the pan? Has Bisu lost in the offline qualifiers again?
I will write a new Power Rank on the first of each month. However, since we've only had one week of results thus far in this new season, the next Power Rank will not be written until January 1st of 2012. Your comments and discussion are integral to having a well-written Power Rank. After all, I am but one man, prone to making mistakes, showing bias, and overlooking details.
But together, we can create a comprehensive ranking. One free of overly-imposing bias. One that captures more than just the numbers. One that allows anybody to simply glance and then know who is on top of the world.
If you wish to navigate to the actual Power Rank (and ensuing comments), first go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/powerrank/ The most recent Ranking is listed at the top, with older ones being farther down the page. At the end of each Power Rank there is a link for the related comments.
And if you would like to make TL (for you) more Brood War-flavored, you can take a look at b0lt's BW userscript. With sidebar customization now available to all, it may be slightly out of date, but one of the options afforded to you is the placing of the Power Rank on the right sidebar.
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Debating power ranks is always fun
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can't we just get our shit back on the right side???? or even stickied at the top of BW General???
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This thread is much needed! Long live the one true Power Rank! None of this random users posting SC2 "Power Ranks" that are really just subjective lists of their own favorite SC2 players.
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Flash and Jangbi still major hot. Both not afraid to offensive counter opponents' builds. Flash crisis management still very good, and micro still stellar. Jangbi pretty much counter everything light tried to do. Beat the OSL curse which is unique to say the least. Stork played a solid game, but losing multiple observers to hydras is not so hot.
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On November 29 2011 14:06 slappy wrote:can't we just get our shit back on the right side???? or even stickied at the top of BW General??? 
or have it in the sidebar options. those who want it, great. for those that dont, well they get what they want too.
But for PR pick gotta be Jangbi and BeSt. BeSt at his worst mu against Jaedong, and Jangbi continuing his hot streak.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On November 29 2011 14:06 slappy wrote:can't we just get our shit back on the right side???? or even stickied at the top of BW General???  I inquired. We will see.
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Baby looked good, Bisu looked Bisu (which is great!). Free won a game (lolyes!)
Basically anyone reasonable looked how they should, cant really discuss much until like 3-4 matches in.
Side note of by.sun though i guess
+ Show Spoiler +elephant in the room sidenote of effort
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don't let TL sell it soul to sc2 , keep it on the right plz :'(
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United States7639 Posts
Yeah, you can definitely tell the effects of the removal. Sept's ranking, although inspired, was pretty debatable, and yet there were barely a third of the comments on it than there would normally be 
I'd love an option for PR on the right sidebar. The userscript worked before the TL layout changes, and I know someone posted a way to edit it, but it won't seem to work for me. Sigh.
(also Bisu for #1)
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Thanks for this thread. Even though I rarely ever participated I loved reading people's thoughts on who deserved to be where on the power ranks. In particular, because few people can watch all the games the power rank discussion thread helps to keep me abreast of how overlooked players who might be deserving of a spot in CNBC or even the lower half of the top 10 are doing.
I agree we should get our power rank on the right side again. Now that Teamliquid is so customizable us BW fans can have our power rank and the SC2 fans can have their stuff.
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Random thoughts on Stork, ZerO, JangBi, and Jaedong:
I really liked the Stork vs ZerO match because it sets some interesting things to monitor this season. ZerO (and maybe Hydra) has seemed to dethrone Stork from TBLS, but Stork seemed so solid and smart in that game and ZerO didn't seem himself. Stork sent two initial Zealots early on, but split them, and it worked as planned. One was surrounded and picked off by Zerglings, the other got three drone kills while ZerO was distracted. Stork had DTs, a Zealot congo line to the third (with more drones dieing), a Zealot drop in the main to snipe the Hydra den. ZerO seemed slow and sluggish and unable to handle Stork's multitasking, often not immediately moving Hydras when he should. As NukeTheStars noted in his commentary, ZerO also couldn't multitask enough to take some pot shots at the FE gateway while the Zealots were out and about. Oh, Stork also had great storms. It seemed like ZerO had a strategy (high ground contain with Lurkers and Hydras) but Stork had both good strategy and tactics.
Obviously I am not saying Stork automatically returns to the top 10 and passes ZerO, but I'm gonna keep a close eye on both of them as the season moves forward.
And while I'm talking about the Khan game - Jangbi. Those shuttles... He's hot.
We'll find out in a couple hours if Jaedong is still hot though. Forget ZvZ for a second. Do you guys remember a very long period in 2010 or so where Jaedong didn't lose to any Protoss at all who was not named Stork or Bisu? We have a very different JD right now, so he'll have to prove himself in both vZ and vP. Thankfully we have no reason to question his ZvT prowess at the moment.
June 27th 2009 - July 24th 2010 he only lost to Bisu and Stork in ZvP. Extend it through January 12, 2011 and you only have 1 loss to Kal to add. Yes, for over a year and a half he only lost to TaekBang plus one loss to the Protoss of the Year at the time.
Awesomeness
Since then?
Not quite what it used to be
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Don't forget about the most awesome terran, FIREBATHERO!
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Don't forget EffOrt!
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36919 Posts
As long as FlaSh keeps playing, I ain't going nowhere.
Also, yeah, getting the PR back to the right side would be like the greatest thing ever
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lol too early to tell for anything. hope we can have a december PR.
hope to see jd as 1!!!
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On November 29 2011 14:07 Release wrote:Flash and Jangbi still major hot. Both not afraid to offensive counter opponents' builds. Flash crisis management still very good, and micro still stellar. Jangbi pretty much counter everything light tried to do. Beat the OSL curse which is unique to say the least. Stork played a solid game, but losing multiple observers to hydras is not so hot. + Show Spoiler +EFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORT
Stork's observer control is infamous... So many games lost on the back of poor observer control. Honestly, Stork is my favorite player, but there are so many aspects of his game that he simply doesn't improve... ever.
On November 29 2011 14:37 jjhchsc2 wrote: lol too early to tell for anything. hope we can have a december PR.
hope to see jd as 1!!!
Let's just say Jaedong isn't off to a good start towards getting #1 PR... Especially now that Effort is back and Zero is a legitimate S-class player, Jaedong has a lot of competition for top Zerg, and he's been looking shaky for a very long time now.
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This is a good initiative, though i feel PR should be returned to the right side bar, i feel like the decision to relegate it to Features has seriously hindered BW exposure and growth. This isn't an attack on the admins or anything as i know their still continue to care very much about BW.
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I feel a December PR will either have to be "inspired" like your typical preseason College Football ranking, or it should just be skipped. Just looking at the last PR, we have Jangbi, Flash, Fantasy, Hydra, Zero, Stats, Jaedong, Killer, and Hoejja. Hoejja's not worth staying on unless he shows a brilliant game today. But there's nothing to suggest the other players should drop out. Heck, even the order seems more or less intact if you look at it.
On November 29 2011 14:44 Gara wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 14:07 Release wrote:Flash and Jangbi still major hot. Both not afraid to offensive counter opponents' builds. Flash crisis management still very good, and micro still stellar. Jangbi pretty much counter everything light tried to do. Beat the OSL curse which is unique to say the least. Stork played a solid game, but losing multiple observers to hydras is not so hot. + Show Spoiler +EFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORT Stork's observer control is infamous... So many games lost on the back of poor observer control. Honestly, Stork is my favorite player, but there are so many aspects of his game that he simply doesn't improve... ever.
I disagree. I thought Zero was at a more disadvantage each time he tried to snipe observers that game. He lost a lot more in hydras getting stormed while trying to snipe. This despite the fact that his economy operating at about 50% of Stork's economy. Stork didn't mind waiting to push out. He had 6(?) gateways churning out dragoons while Zero barely mined his 3rd. A delay doesn't help Zero because he couldn't drone up. There weren't enough lurkers for a contain.
That said, it didn't matter anyway. Zero was dead in the water after those harass anyway. Sniping observers just made his demise a little latter but more surely.
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