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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 05:37:16
November 29 2011 04:57 GMT
#1
Power Rank is back! Check your right hand sidebar customization.

New Power Rank up: February '12

This thread will have spoilers.

The Power Rank still exists, but its removal from the right sidebar stifled discussion. While inveterate readers of the Power Rank may still frequent the now-hidden thread, more casual frequenters of TL may not notice it. Add to that amount the new people that find Brood War each season, and you've got a sizable number of Brood War-following members who won't view the Power Rank, other than when a new one appears in News every so often.

I think a discussion thread is needed. So, let's talk here. Who's hot? Who't not? Is your favorite player suddenly showing marked improvement in his micro/macro/ZvT/hairstyle? Have you noticed a new player that's stealthily creeping his way into the big leagues? Is a former star slumping? Was Shine a flash in the pan? Has Bisu lost in the offline qualifiers again?

I will write a new Power Rank on the first of each month. However, since we've only had one week of results thus far in this new season, the next Power Rank will not be written until January 1st of 2012. Your comments and discussion are integral to having a well-written Power Rank. After all, I am but one man, prone to making mistakes, showing bias, and overlooking details.

But together, we can create a comprehensive ranking. One free of overly-imposing bias. One that captures more than just the numbers. One that allows anybody to simply glance and then know who is on top of the world.

If you wish to navigate to the actual Power Rank (and ensuing comments), first go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/powerrank/
The most recent Ranking is listed at the top, with older ones being farther down the page. At the end of each Power Rank there is a link for the related comments.

And if you would like to make TL (for you) more Brood War-flavored, you can take a look at b0lt's BW userscript. With sidebar customization now available to all, it may be slightly out of date, but one of the options afforded to you is the placing of the Power Rank on the right sidebar.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
HKriceboy88
Profile Joined October 2009
United States248 Posts
November 29 2011 04:58 GMT
#2
Much <3
Heros- Jaedong, Day9
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 29 2011 05:03 GMT
#3
Debating power ranks is always fun
brood war for life, brood war forever
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
November 29 2011 05:06 GMT
#4
can't we just get our shit back on the right side???? or even stickied at the top of BW General???
jaedong imba
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
November 29 2011 05:06 GMT
#5
This thread is much needed! Long live the one true Power Rank! None of this random users posting SC2 "Power Ranks" that are really just subjective lists of their own favorite SC2 players.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 29 2011 05:07 GMT
#6
Flash and Jangbi still major hot. Both not afraid to offensive counter opponents' builds.
Flash crisis management still very good, and micro still stellar.
Jangbi pretty much counter everything light tried to do. Beat the OSL curse which is unique to say the least.
Stork played a solid game, but losing multiple observers to hydras is not so hot.

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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
November 29 2011 05:09 GMT
#7
On November 29 2011 14:06 slappy wrote:
can't we just get our shit back on the right side???? or even stickied at the top of BW General???


or have it in the sidebar options. those who want it, great. for those that dont, well they get what they want too.

But for PR pick gotta be Jangbi and BeSt. BeSt at his worst mu against Jaedong, and Jangbi continuing his hot streak.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 29 2011 05:11 GMT
#8
On November 29 2011 14:06 slappy wrote:
can't we just get our shit back on the right side???? or even stickied at the top of BW General???

I inquired. We will see.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 05:15:46
November 29 2011 05:13 GMT
#9
Baby looked good, Bisu looked Bisu (which is great!). Free won a game (lolyes!)

Basically anyone reasonable looked how they should, cant really discuss much until like 3-4 matches in.

Side note of by.sun though i guess

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elephant in the room sidenote of effort
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
TheDoK666
Profile Joined May 2010
France179 Posts
November 29 2011 05:16 GMT
#10
don't let TL sell it soul to sc2 , keep it on the right plz :'(
pwet
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 29 2011 05:19 GMT
#11
Yeah, you can definitely tell the effects of the removal. Sept's ranking, although inspired, was pretty debatable, and yet there were barely a third of the comments on it than there would normally be

I'd love an option for PR on the right sidebar. The userscript worked before the TL layout changes, and I know someone posted a way to edit it, but it won't seem to work for me. Sigh.

(also Bisu for #1)
Writer:o
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 29 2011 05:20 GMT
#12
Thanks for this thread. Even though I rarely ever participated I loved reading people's thoughts on who deserved to be where on the power ranks. In particular, because few people can watch all the games the power rank discussion thread helps to keep me abreast of how overlooked players who might be deserving of a spot in CNBC or even the lower half of the top 10 are doing.

I agree we should get our power rank on the right side again. Now that Teamliquid is so customizable us BW fans can have our power rank and the SC2 fans can have their stuff.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 05:35:49
November 29 2011 05:21 GMT
#13
Random thoughts on Stork, ZerO, JangBi, and Jaedong:

I really liked the Stork vs ZerO match because it sets some interesting things to monitor this season. ZerO (and maybe Hydra) has seemed to dethrone Stork from TBLS, but Stork seemed so solid and smart in that game and ZerO didn't seem himself. Stork sent two initial Zealots early on, but split them, and it worked as planned. One was surrounded and picked off by Zerglings, the other got three drone kills while ZerO was distracted. Stork had DTs, a Zealot congo line to the third (with more drones dieing), a Zealot drop in the main to snipe the Hydra den. ZerO seemed slow and sluggish and unable to handle Stork's multitasking, often not immediately moving Hydras when he should. As NukeTheStars noted in his commentary, ZerO also couldn't multitask enough to take some pot shots at the FE gateway while the Zealots were out and about. Oh, Stork also had great storms. It seemed like ZerO had a strategy (high ground contain with Lurkers and Hydras) but Stork had both good strategy and tactics.

Obviously I am not saying Stork automatically returns to the top 10 and passes ZerO, but I'm gonna keep a close eye on both of them as the season moves forward.

And while I'm talking about the Khan game - Jangbi. Those shuttles... He's hot.

We'll find out in a couple hours if Jaedong is still hot though. Forget ZvZ for a second. Do you guys remember a very long period in 2010 or so where Jaedong didn't lose to any Protoss at all who was not named Stork or Bisu? We have a very different JD right now, so he'll have to prove himself in both vZ and vP. Thankfully we have no reason to question his ZvT prowess at the moment.

June 27th 2009 - July 24th 2010 he only lost to Bisu and Stork in ZvP. Extend it through January 12, 2011 and you only have 1 loss to Kal to add. Yes, for over a year and a half he only lost to TaekBang plus one loss to the Protoss of the Year at the time.

Awesomeness

Since then?

Not quite what it used to be
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
November 29 2011 05:22 GMT
#14
Don't forget about the most awesome terran, FIREBATHERO!
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
November 29 2011 05:23 GMT
#15
Don't forget EffOrt!
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37033 Posts
November 29 2011 05:35 GMT
#16
As long as FlaSh keeps playing, I ain't going nowhere.

Also, yeah, getting the PR back to the right side would be like the greatest thing ever
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
November 29 2011 05:37 GMT
#17
lol too early to tell for anything.
hope we can have a december PR.

hope to see jd as 1!!!
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 05:45:43
November 29 2011 05:44 GMT
#18
On November 29 2011 14:07 Release wrote:
Flash and Jangbi still major hot. Both not afraid to offensive counter opponents' builds.
Flash crisis management still very good, and micro still stellar.
Jangbi pretty much counter everything light tried to do. Beat the OSL curse which is unique to say the least.
Stork played a solid game, but losing multiple observers to hydras is not so hot.

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Stork's observer control is infamous... So many games lost on the back of poor observer control. Honestly, Stork is my favorite player, but there are so many aspects of his game that he simply doesn't improve... ever.

On November 29 2011 14:37 jjhchsc2 wrote:
lol too early to tell for anything.
hope we can have a december PR.

hope to see jd as 1!!!


Let's just say Jaedong isn't off to a good start towards getting #1 PR... Especially now that Effort is back and Zero is a legitimate S-class player, Jaedong has a lot of competition for top Zerg, and he's been looking shaky for a very long time now.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 29 2011 05:44 GMT
#19
This is a good initiative, though i feel PR should be returned to the right side bar, i feel like the decision to relegate it to Features has seriously hindered BW exposure and growth. This isn't an attack on the admins or anything as i know their still continue to care very much about BW.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 05:55:00
November 29 2011 05:53 GMT
#20
I feel a December PR will either have to be "inspired" like your typical preseason College Football ranking, or it should just be skipped. Just looking at the last PR, we have Jangbi, Flash, Fantasy, Hydra, Zero, Stats, Jaedong, Killer, and Hoejja. Hoejja's not worth staying on unless he shows a brilliant game today. But there's nothing to suggest the other players should drop out. Heck, even the order seems more or less intact if you look at it.

On November 29 2011 14:44 Gara wrote:
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On November 29 2011 14:07 Release wrote:
Flash and Jangbi still major hot. Both not afraid to offensive counter opponents' builds.
Flash crisis management still very good, and micro still stellar.
Jangbi pretty much counter everything light tried to do. Beat the OSL curse which is unique to say the least.
Stork played a solid game, but losing multiple observers to hydras is not so hot.

+ Show Spoiler +
EFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORTEFFORT


Stork's observer control is infamous... So many games lost on the back of poor observer control. Honestly, Stork is my favorite player, but there are so many aspects of his game that he simply doesn't improve... ever.


I disagree. I thought Zero was at a more disadvantage each time he tried to snipe observers that game. He lost a lot more in hydras getting stormed while trying to snipe. This despite the fact that his economy operating at about 50% of Stork's economy. Stork didn't mind waiting to push out. He had 6(?) gateways churning out dragoons while Zero barely mined his 3rd. A delay doesn't help Zero because he couldn't drone up. There weren't enough lurkers for a contain.

That said, it didn't matter anyway. Zero was dead in the water after those harass anyway. Sniping observers just made his demise a little latter but more surely.
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