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sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
November 29 2011 05:53 GMT
#21
Well, it's still early like flamewheel said, but it's about time FBH should be inside the Power Rank. ACE represent!
(´・ω・`)
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
November 29 2011 06:08 GMT
#22
On November 29 2011 14:53 baubo wrote:
I feel a December PR will either have to be "inspired" like your typical preseason College Football ranking, or it should just be skipped. Just looking at the last PR, we have Jangbi, Flash, Fantasy, Hydra, Zero, Stats, Jaedong, Killer, and Hoejja. Hoejja's not worth staying on unless he shows a brilliant game today. But there's nothing to suggest the other players should drop out. Heck, even the order seems more or less intact if you look at it.

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On November 29 2011 14:44 Gara wrote:
On November 29 2011 14:07 Release wrote:
Flash and Jangbi still major hot. Both not afraid to offensive counter opponents' builds.
Flash crisis management still very good, and micro still stellar.
Jangbi pretty much counter everything light tried to do. Beat the OSL curse which is unique to say the least.
Stork played a solid game, but losing multiple observers to hydras is not so hot.

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Stork's observer control is infamous... So many games lost on the back of poor observer control. Honestly, Stork is my favorite player, but there are so many aspects of his game that he simply doesn't improve... ever.


I disagree. I thought Zero was at a more disadvantage each time he tried to snipe observers that game. He lost a lot more in hydras getting stormed while trying to snipe. This despite the fact that his economy operating at about 50% of Stork's economy. Stork didn't mind waiting to push out. He had 6(?) gateways churning out dragoons while Zero barely mined his 3rd. A delay doesn't help Zero because he couldn't drone up. There weren't enough lurkers for a contain.

That said, it didn't matter anyway. Zero was dead in the water after those harass anyway. Sniping observers just made his demise a little latter but more surely.


Hmmm... I wasn't really talking about the Stork vs. Zero game in particular, just Stork's observer micro and Zero's ascent in general.

My point was more that based on his past season's performance, Zero has clearly established himself as an S-class zerg player. Opinions about Stork's observer control seem mixed... There are games where he loses a lot of obs, but also games where he uses them effectively.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 29 2011 06:09 GMT
#23
I'm skipping the December ranking. There will only be one week's worth of data and I have finals.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 29 2011 06:13 GMT
#24
imo, we should be able to pick between or present both (if possible) SC2 or SC1 power ranking like it was before
Hey! Listen!
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 06:18:00
November 29 2011 06:16 GMT
#25
I think FBH should get at least top 5 for making Action sweat big time(at this time).

Thank you for the Power Rank again!

edit: I thought (Z)EffOrt played this weekend(to the post below).
Brood War forever!
Canadium
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada171 Posts
November 29 2011 06:16 GMT
#26
I too am very very sad that we didn't get to see Effort play this weekend.... I'm hoping for big things from him. On the other hand Baby looked really solid in his game vs. Soo.
You better run Charles....
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 06:18:55
November 29 2011 06:18 GMT
#27
Uhhh... effort did play this weekend vs. hyvaa

im gay
atombombforpeace
Profile Joined December 2008
United States408 Posts
November 29 2011 06:22 GMT
#28
Just given the huge amount of time between the last games and now, there's a possibility for great changes in people's gameplay. I haven't seen enough to talk much, but I think we should look heavily at recent results over past glory.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
November 29 2011 06:24 GMT
#29
Hmm.. I might be biased but i think (P)By.Sun is definitely worth keeping a lookout for.. All-killing Hwaseung Oz last season, and his opening game this season wasn't shabby at all.

That said, outside of the Jaedong vs BeSt game, none of the other games were a major surprise.. Those who should win, won, for the most part... I don't see any major changes with our usual Power Rank placings.. Outside of Hydra being there at all, but only cos i hate him. :3

Oh and Soulkey is good too, but we already know that hes good for a long time, so bah..
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 29 2011 06:39 GMT
#30
not much to talk about
in no order:
bisu jaedong? flash stork
jangbi effort (hydra or baby or best or whoever... movie?)

killer?

anyway not enough games. need more games
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 06:47:03
November 29 2011 06:46 GMT
#31
fm,

It's only been one week man and yes I miss it from the sidebar, but apparently we can change that in our customization, no?

Anyway, I think the next one should be written around the new year.

With that said, Jangbi still looks great. Effort showed he hasn't missed a beat. Stork looked solid. Flash did what we expect. Light almost made a game out of being that far behind. Won't comment on Free yet because I still think it's too early. Almost forgot Bisu, yeah he was solid too.

Blah, blah, blah.

Let's see what happens tonight!
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
November 29 2011 07:32 GMT
#32
On November 29 2011 14:44 Gara wrote:
Especially now that Zero is a legitimate S-class player,


Wat? S-class players win more than 55% of their games...
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
November 29 2011 07:41 GMT
#33
On November 29 2011 16:32 KamMoye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 14:44 Gara wrote:
Especially now that Zero is a legitimate S-class player,


Wat? S-class players win more than 55% of their games...

60% winrate in 2011, with a MSL finals and semi-finals appearance, BoX wins over Stork and Jaedong, 6-2 in playoffs with a win over Flash.

/fanboy
웅진 멘쓰즈
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 29 2011 09:56 GMT
#34
Based on the initial games, not much have changed in the BW scene. Flash still raping hardcore, Jangbi showing off his PvT flair, JD having flawless ZvT and sub-optimal everything else, etc.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
November 29 2011 15:40 GMT
#35
On November 29 2011 14:11 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 14:06 slappy wrote:
can't we just get our shit back on the right side???? or even stickied at the top of BW General???

I inquired. We will see.


tell them to remove bw elo ranking and put the pr there instead.
hope they will hear you
ace hwaiting!!
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
November 29 2011 15:47 GMT
#36
On November 29 2011 18:56 Holgerius wrote:
Based on the initial games, not much have changed in the BW scene. Flash still raping hardcore, Jangbi showing off his PvT flair, JD having flawless ZvT and sub-optimal everything else, etc.


I like how you conveniently skip over the fact that Bisu is still the best player that ever graced the BW scene.

But i forgive u ^_^
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
November 29 2011 15:59 GMT
#37
I love to read people's opinions/posts, THEN check their team icon. Fanboyism never fails
jaedong imba
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 29 2011 16:04 GMT
#38
On November 30 2011 00:59 slappy wrote:
I love to read people's opinions/posts, THEN check their team icon. Fanboyism never fails


Bisu sucks and has a big nose.

Flash is the best!!!!!!11!!! GO KT!!
Writer:o
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 29 2011 16:21 GMT
#39
On November 30 2011 01:04 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 00:59 slappy wrote:
I love to read people's opinions/posts, THEN check their team icon. Fanboyism never fails


Bisu sucks and has a big nose.

Flash is the best!!!!!!11!!! GO KT!!

Glad you've found the light.
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Fanboyism aside, Flash is the best bw player ever.
And Bisu is pretty.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
magicman
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines54 Posts
November 29 2011 16:31 GMT
#40
On November 30 2011 00:47 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 18:56 Holgerius wrote:
Based on the initial games, not much have changed in the BW scene. Flash still raping hardcore, Jangbi showing off his PvT flair, JD having flawless ZvT and sub-optimal everything else, etc.


I like how you conveniently skip over the fact that Bisu is still the best player that ever graced the BW scene.

But i forgive u ^_^


i agree with you

+10 LOL

kim taek yong fighting

and dont forget that hair.lol
if you aint first.your last
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