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citi.zen
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On July 25 2010 04:18 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Well the excrement has hit the air conditioning. I need to think about this. I'm actually not sure if the correct play is to lynch South here. The feces has impacted the ventilation? This is going to require some thinking... A counter-claim here doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the mafia, I think they'd rather fake a DT claim, then counter claim this. But... Stating the obvious: -Do not roleclaim to anyone. -Either Tricode, citi.zen, or South is mafia, but likely only one of them. | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:24 SouthRawrea wrote: Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially. We're not saying he's 100% confirmed and that everyone, blue included, should run to him roleclaiming, we're saying you gotta die. I'm fine with dying with you and if you really were town, you wouldn't mind dying. Both of you claimed bomber. There can only be 1 bomber since Tricode said he was vigi. Unless he's lying and both of you are bombers but that means BC is lying too about being hit. Someone HAS to die, either you or citi.zen cause you both claimed. We can get lots of information depending on how you flip. I'd rather you die cause if you ARE red, there's lots of info that would come out of it. If you aren't info still comes out but the better thing is that only TWO people will die, me and you. Citi.zen said he placed both his bombs. That's 3 dead. Let's go to heaven together if you're townie baby. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
##Vote SouthRawrea Sorry dude I know it's your first game and all but mafia's gotta be lynched. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:24 SouthRawrea wrote: Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially. I'm sold. Vote citi.zen. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 03:52 SouthRawrea wrote: So far I've been trying to slip under the radar so I don't get lynched early on or killed at night. I've actually only placed one bomb thus far as I was a little hesitant to kill place two people at risk even if I suspect them. My only one at the moment is on chaoser but that was placed yesterday after seeing that he didn't get lynched. I decided to abstain from placing a second bomb because of the first vote placed on me by Bumat... I felt threatened. :/ ## Vote Citizen for now SouthRawr false claims. He is under heavy scrutiny and has barely participated in the game and the scum team knows his usefulness is running out. They make one last attempt to make use of him by agreeing for him to counter claim citi.zen. They also make him say that he placed a bomb no chaoser to try and 'remove' any suspicion on him. Chaoser now goes into a state of bussing as he tries to make the most of the situation. If SouthRawr gets lynched, chaoser will come out looking innocent, if he doesn't get lynched, chaoser's rep remains the same. If he IS bomber like he says he is, it'll just be me and him dying. That gives a lot of information against me/him such as those who where making a strong case against me/people who ADMITTEDLY jumped on him. If he's mafia, we just killed a mafia, good job, we still can't 100% trust citi.zen since it could be a ploy to sac one mafia to make the other one more trusted. Not saying that I don't trust you citi.zen, I'm just saying that's a possibility. On July 25 2010 05:31 chaoser wrote: We're not saying he's 100% confirmed and that everyone, blue included, should run to him roleclaiming, we're saying you gotta die. I'm fine with dying with you and if you really were town, you wouldn't mind dying. Both of you claimed bomber. There can only be 1 bomber since Tricode said he was vigi. Unless he's lying and both of you are bombers but that means BC is lying too about being hit. Someone HAS to die, either you or citi.zen cause you both claimed. We can get lots of information depending on how you flip. I'd rather you die cause if you ARE red, there's lots of info that would come out of it. If you aren't info still comes out but the better thing is that only TWO people will die, me and you. Citi.zen said he placed both his bombs. That's 3 dead. Let's go to heaven together if you're townie baby. Look at this play: By saying "I'm willing to die with you to confirm citi.zen's bomber claim" he can look 'innocent'. He KNOWS that citi.zen's claim is real and so he puts on this charade to make the most of this situation. This is all assuming SouthRawr is red. What else can we learn from this? I'm only focusing on chaoser's posts in regard to SouthRawr's claim, there's heaps more information that can be analysed. Also, this tells us that the mafia team isn't very organised. A truly organised (pro) mafia team wouldn't do this type of play. It sticks out like a sore thumb and has lots of risks involved. Assuming SouthRawr flips red we can safely assume that there may only be one or no 'pro' players in the mafia team. So I implore you, vote SouthRawr as it will give us the most information, more so than lynching citi.zen. I also implore you to double lynch as it will be the most beneficial after this shitstorm. ##Vote Double Lynch | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
On July 24 2010 13:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: southrawrea + Show Spoiler + On July 17 2010 10:48 SouthRawrea wrote: We should like.. have a village bonfire where we eat marshmallows and tell spookie stories in the afternoon. On July 17 2010 22:57 SouthRawrea wrote: ####Vote Abstain On July 19 2010 09:59 SouthRawrea wrote: My take on this is we should take it easy Day 1 and just individually take note of inactives/suspicious individuals until we get our power roles in action tonight. Sure we may end up lynching one of the Reds and it does indeed help to lynch scummy players in order to lessen the number suspects in a future lynch but Random Lynching on Day 1 also allows Reds to gain a foothold in swaying the opinions of players in a future 50/50 situation (ex: Player X is active since Day 1 and seems to be pro-town but is in actuality a mafia. Both him and a Player Y, a cop, counter-claim each other with conflicting reports several days later and the town is given a 50/50 shot at lynching the right person but the other cop hasn't been speaking as much in fear of revealing the fact that he is a cop to the mafia through unintentional, implicit clues. The rest of the village trusts Player X because he seems to be more Pro-Town than Player Y.) and we risk the possibility of lynching one of our power roles early on. Just my 2 cents on why I voted to abstain from lynching. On July 20 2010 08:04 SouthRawrea wrote: Talking at night is stupid D:. It takes away from what the game is supposed to be. On July 21 2010 11:19 SouthRawrea wrote: Um this is getting a bit too heated in my opinion but this may all just be coming from the fact that chaoser is furiously trying to get the town's suspicion placed on Subversion or he's reading wayyy too much into the words typed out by Subversion. This is his first game and I can emphasize with him because you don't quite think out every thing you type especially in your first game. If I try to help my team (because I've played a couple of forum games before) I generally type furiously without reading over what I've typed and trying to think how that would read to another player. Also, I'm pretty sure Subversion hasn't mentioned you. I do think you're trying too hard to tunnel him (not sure if that term is used here). However, it's not like you're voting him or anything which makes me inclined to think that you're just trying to defend yourself and help the village in general. I don't see why you'd go for Subversion instead of an inactive such as me. ##Vote Chaoser I would abstain but we can afford a mislynch now and we have a bit of information to work with especially because the detectives have their reports and we have a claim. This generally works in our favour as there hasn't been a lucky kill for the mafia and there is alot more text to read upon for scumtells. Also we get more info now. (Not quite sure how this works in my head but I imagine a detective claim from someone getting lynched day 2 is much more convincing than one on day 1 especially because they have a report now) On July 22 2010 08:40 SouthRawrea wrote: Maybe there's a fool in the game with the simple objective of trying to get lynched? Also, getting a fool/mafia vibe from DTA that can happen in the event that both are present in a game. Gonna assume there isn't one unless BM added one in secretly and consider DTA for lynching as well. I'll actually bandwagon if a lynch occurs later or perhaps start it on another day just because as I'm continuing to read, some of my suspicions are beginning to coincide with some of those who suspect him. Overall though, not a huge suspect on my list. On July 22 2010 12:00 SouthRawrea wrote: Gonna leave my vote the way it is. Gonna sleep for tonight gotta get up early tomorrow. On July 23 2010 09:29 SouthRawrea wrote: I mean it ruins the whole mafia game in a way. In old-school mafia in real life the people would like put their heads down while the night roles did stuff and no one would talk. It's dumb because it ruins the game's vibe I guess. Welcome to southrawrea, the classic case of a mafia member “being active”. I’m not sure how he has been missed this long as well, almost all his posts are useless, rehashing old information someone has said, or obvious filler posts to distract people from how inactive he has been. Considering he hasn’t been very active overall, and coupled with the style of posts he is making, I am sure he is mafia, and IMO someone we should consider lynching. If anyone doubts it, go read all his posts for yourself, you will see what I mean. If you refuse to go read his posts, take the sample I have given and make your decision off that. Not sure how this is completely representative of all my posts. You're missing a few actually. The type of mafia I'm used to is more fast paced and over a short period of time. I'm not entirely good with the analytical thing where you link the posts of people from 50 pages back and stuff which is what the "better" players seem to be doing. Also at citi.zen if you really are the Mad Hatter, why not announce who you placed your bombs on? If they're really innocent, no problemo and if they're mafia they'll think twice about shooting you and we have someone to lead. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
##vote Double Lynch On thing people seem to assume is that if a DT mouth comes up red, the supposed DT is also red and we get two reds. The DT could just as easily be blue. The DTs have had NO WAY to confirm anyone at this point (as far as I can work out), so if they have a mouth, it's probably because they talked to someone they shouldn't have. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:46 youngminii wrote: For the record, I'd just like to point out the following. This is assuming SouthRawr flips red. SouthRawr false claims. He is under heavy scrutiny and has barely participated in the game and the scum team knows his usefulness is running out. They make one last attempt to make use of him by agreeing for him to counter claim citi.zen. They also make him say that he placed a bomb no chaoser to try and 'remove' any suspicion on him. Chaoser now goes into a state of bussing as he tries to make the most of the situation. If SouthRawr gets lynched, chaoser will come out looking innocent, if he doesn't get lynched, chaoser's rep remains the same. Look at this play: By saying "I'm willing to die with you to confirm citi.zen's bomber claim" he can look 'innocent'. He KNOWS that citi.zen's claim is real and so he puts on this charade to make the most of this situation. This is all assuming SouthRawr is red. What else can we learn from this? I'm only focusing on chaoser's posts in regard to SouthRawr's claim, there's heaps more information that can be analysed. Also, this tells us that the mafia team isn't very organised. A truly organised (pro) mafia team wouldn't do this type of play. It sticks out like a sore thumb and has lots of risks involved. Assuming SouthRawr flips red we can safely assume that there may only be one or no 'pro' players in the mafia team. So I implore you, vote SouthRawr as it will give us the most information, more so than lynching citi.zen. I also implore you to double lynch as it will be the most beneficial after this shitstorm. ##Vote Double Lynch Please don't put words in my mouth, I never said people please trust me if he flips red. I never even bring it up, I'm merely saying that I'm fine with dying with him and he should be too because it helps town. | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:51 chaoser wrote: Please don't put words in my mouth, I never said people please trust me if he flips red. I never even bring it up, I'm merely saying that I'm fine with dying with him and he should be too because it helps town. No, but this is what your play suggests. There is a difference between saying something explicitly and meaning something implicitly. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:55 youngminii wrote: No, but this is what your play suggests. There is a difference between saying something explicitly and meaning something implicitly. I wasn't even thinking about my being innocent but sure, spin it however you want. If after he had died, I said, haa, look i'm innocent now right? then you'd have a case against me. Right now you're just pulling shit out of your ass. lots of <3 for you though. XOXO | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:35 SiNiquity wrote: I would very much like to see your backyard Ok just five minutes, need enough battery power on my camera and I'll PM you with it. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 06:00 SouthRawrea wrote: Ok just five minutes, need enough battery power on my camera and I'll PM you with it. can i see it too? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:59 chaoser wrote: I wasn't even thinking about my being innocent but sure, spin it however you want. If after he had died, I said, haa, look i'm innocent now right? then you'd have a case against me. Right now you're just pulling shit out of your ass. lots of <3 for you though. XOXO Umm... lol Chill out BC, think about this situation. There's lots more information to be had if SouthRawr is lynched than if citi.zen is lynched. Also less 'casualties'. Let's blow this shit wide open. | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
I'll put it in the thread then. | ||
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