World Heavyweight Championship mafia - Page 92

On October 07 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see any reasons in that statement by HF about Risen being townie

Ok HF, if you ignore the Rayn lynch, who do you want to lynch the most?

On October 07 2013 23:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lynch the Risen.

So who dies tonight? Im thinking Clarity or marv.

On October 07 2013 23:35 Holyflare wrote:



I really need to read around a bit more, but the people I will be reading are you, marv and dirk.

On October 07 2013 23:40 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why are we 3 the scummiest if we ignore the rayn lynch?
Come on HF, work with me.

On October 07 2013 23:41 Holyflare wrote:


why would I ignore the rayn lynch? Stop working against me

On October 07 2013 23:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

Because its an exercise to get you to think about Risen being scum Rayn didnt get lynched/was town.
Its night. Just do it.

, this wouldn't happen if he was a scum partner with rayn would it, he asked how to improve it, agreed that he could have cut out half of it etc etc. If you're convinced someone is scum you look at everything incriminating which he did, literally everything.

On October 08 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:


But he was lynched and rayn was scum so what you are asking is somewhat silly.

Risen has been consistent in his case making and style. He makes long winded cases and makes them based off confirmation biased reads. He made his second case on rayn despite being told to improve on making cases. A lot of unnecessary effort went into it and thus when he was shot down again he felt dejected, this wouldn't happen if he was a scum partner with rayn would it, he asked how to improve it, agreed that he could have cut out half of it etc etc. If you're convinced someone is scum you look at everything incriminating which he did, literally everything.

The point you make about not pushing his case is the same point yo made against me at the start too. However, what I wrote above still applies. If you put in all that effort and get shot down a second time you get really really demotivated to push anything.


As for you oats, you have played what I see as the most scummy game. You didn't really push people you just agreed with points and sheeped votes. It's not until day/night 2 that you really begin to make a case on someone. The case was weak in my opinion and you're jackhammering it rather than looking objectively at other people that could indeed be scum.

Marv is a good player so I've heard, the only thing that's made me see him negatively was the BH argument vut as I understand he dislikes BH for out of game reasons. I would have liked him to leave that out of game though for the sake of making this harder. I still need to read up on his posts though because i have somewhat neglected him till now, which can be a total mishap if I've properly misread him. He was convinced sloosh was scum and so didn't do anymore scum hunting and joked at how we were trying which left me questionable.

Dirk was well scummy to start, he obviously had to pick up his posting mishap in order to appear not scummy so I'm not sure i can let him slide. I liked his case on sloosh though it looked very convincing. People have seemingly let him go free.

If i had to target someone it would be you oats

On October 04 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so, i need to decide my vote now.
I prefer Dirkzor. Clarity you are bad or scum.
I guess my other options are Risen and Sloosh?

If i should switch marv tell me now who to switch on. I trust you the most. I don't wanna lynch Risen, i don't wanna lynch Sloosh either.. because they have not been here, and i can't tell what they are gonna say when they come back (if they do).

I don't accept Oats or marv as lynch.

On October 04 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

BH, i can tell Oats' alignment at last on N2. If i die on N1 grill him hard. This is a fact.

On October 04 2013 01:55 Risen wrote:

The bolded part is something you should never call someone out on unless you're using it as part of a case and you're voting that person. Discouraging people from posting is not something town players should do.

On October 07 2013 23:08 marvellosity wrote:
Risen did move his vote to slOosh at the deadline actually. I've pointed it out before but it's one of the most interesting bits of the whole lynch.

On October 08 2013 02:45 Dirkzor wrote:


Defence of Rayn by Risen?

On October 08 2013 03:02 Risen wrote:

This is a main reason I want Oats lynched, and yet we have mr lynch me d2 coming in with the same point. Tell me marv, would you have kept your vote on someone if there was a last second bus being moved onto you? No, you wouldn't have. You would have kept a no lynch or yourself lynch from occuring and would have voted sloosh. This is so fucking scummy. You're not stupid, Oats isn't stupid, you both can't be scum and yet you're both doing the same exact thing. So this screams to me that you're scum playing to Oats' fears. If I'm scum marv I'm shooting HF tonight and riding Oats to a Risen lynch then lynching Oats as the creator of the Risen lynch. You even have HF in the thread saying exactly why Oats is wrong on this point and my post from earlier saying why this post is wrong and you STILL say something like this. Why are you soft pushing this so hard? Why don't you find Oats scummy for his push on me when you should? Town marv sees this and finds Oats scummy and wants to lynch Oats in spite of the whole quote me d2.

On October 08 2013 02:40 Dirkzor wrote:

Just throwing thoughts out here now. I am trying to re-read D1 when I came upon this post from our Scum Rayn. If I made a post like that as scum I would almost always include my scumbuddy. Either as a sure townread or a potential lynch target. We know Sloosh was town. If I add my own reads I get the conclusion that Oats is that last scum...

I've had a pretty good town read on marv most of the game and don't believe Risen made his case on Rayn as scumbuddy. That leaves Oats. At this point in the game Oats hadn't really done anything (imo) to warrent such a strong no-lynch comment which makes it stand out to me.

This is just my thoughts loudly when I saw it... (maybe because I already think oats is scum I make things fit... anyway)

On October 08 2013 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote:

The whole point of the rayn lynch is to get you cred.
Thats how it works. And you cant see this. Thats really odd Risen. For being such an accomplished scum player, you CANNOT see what the mafia point of view for bussing Rayn.
That means you are scum. Totally caught Ace by this heuristic.

On October 08 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

I questioned him multiple times WHY he had the townread on me, im pretty sure. Scum like to give townreads because then they dont have to fake suspicion on people. But not too many townreads.

On October 08 2013 04:07 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: And why the fuck aren't Clarity and HF scum bussers, too? You've singled me out, why? How do you know they're town and not bussing? Your logic is so inconsistent you have to be scum. Oh but suddenly HF is your dark horse candidate. Sloosh was the first candidate to be pushing a bus over a no lynch, but that didn't work out. So now you've moved on to the next person you want lynched for bussing. Here's a thought, maybe scum didn't bus d1? Maybe scum agenda is to create all this conversation around a bus that didn't actually occur in order to get three people who didn't vote rayn all the way to d4 then have a fucking crapshoot in the dark. How have you not considered this? This isn't an AHA moment, because this is actually happening. You keep saying Dirk/Risen who's scum and then you only pressure me