On May 01 2012 07:10 iNcontroL wrote:
wow asha` lol
big fuck you too!
wow asha` lol
big fuck you too!
So that's "have a pro player comment in one of my threads" off my list of things I always wanted to do.
Thank you very much, Sir!

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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:10 iNcontroL wrote: wow asha` lol big fuck you too! So that's "have a pro player comment in one of my threads" off my list of things I always wanted to do. Thank you very much, Sir! ![]() | ||
FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
American identity that people can related to and Idra doesn't rage so much as before. He just rage quit everytime he loses and i dunno how people find that amusing. People like Losira,Coca and etc that stream deserves more viewership numbers. EG isn't performing as well as though. | ||
Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:01 WolfintheSheep wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 06:32 CruiseR wrote: On May 01 2012 06:21 0ne wrote: On May 01 2012 06:10 CruiseR wrote: On May 01 2012 06:08 Diamond wrote: On May 01 2012 06:06 CruiseR wrote: On May 01 2012 06:05 Diamond wrote: On May 01 2012 05:26 CruiseR wrote: HuK, Feast, Stephano, Socke, HasuObs, GoOdy, DarKFoRcE, Grubby, Ret, MaNa, Nerchio, Tefel, DieStar, NightEnD, TitaN, BratOK, Happy, sLivko, LucifroN, VortiX, NaNiwa, SaSe, ThorZaIN, SjoW, MorroW, biGs, BlinG, DeMusliM, fraer, Kas, Strelok, Bly, DIMAGA, LiveZerg, Sen, I named 35 players (and i'm not even sure if Snute/White-Ra/TLO/Sheth/Adelscott/ToD/Scarlett aren't in that list too) that are better than IdrA imo. Obviously it can't be proven they are or they are not, but looking at recent IdrA's tournament results i truly believe in what i said. His last nice win was in November 2011 (Asus ROG), and since then he was "constantly" taking last places in MLGs and other tournaments. And taking a single game off a player like Bomber (look at his tlpd, he was "constantly winning" maybe 10+ months ago) means nothing, cuz many players from my list would have a decent shot to win a single game in bo3 or bo5 against a top korean he was very good in sc:bw (probably top1 foreigner at some point) and probably the best during the beta, but now there are alot of other talent you people underrate and don't even think about, just because IdrA has a name. I will probably get attacked now by the biggest fanclub in the world, but I don't really care. That's my opinion and you are not gonna change it, because it's based on facts. cliffs: IdrA has earned a name for himself winning many tournaments in beta/early sc2, but even though other players don't have as much tournament success, i would bet money on them if they were to play vs IdrA right now. Online results are important for me too. I read exactly 4 names on your list and KNEW that you lived in EU, looked at location and was not disappointed. Yeah, you americans don't know a third of the players listed i know it ![]() Or we know that a lot of EU fans seem to wayyyyyyyyyyyy overly hype a good number of EU players. Not saying IdrA is the top dog, but your list is borderline insulting and so obv EU favored it can't be taken as anything but another EU fan overhyping EU players. You really don't believe EU has much more better players than NA ? I think the difference in both skill and number of high-skilled players is pretty big. That's no the point. The thing is you're saying players like Goody, Scarlett, Adelscott, Strelok or DieStar (just quoting the most painful ones) are better than IdrA which is beyond ridiculous. So you are incredibly biased towards EU random players or you are a hardcore IdrA hater. I just think IdrA is the most overrated player. Some polls i've seen recently kinda shocked me. I concluded that alot of people think IdrA is for sure in the top3 if it comes to foreigners, hell, to some people he's top1. I may have overreacted a bit, but I think Strelok, Scarlett or DieStar with their latest form have at least a 50/50 shot vs IdrA. Frankly, I think people just suck at estimating the relative skill levels of players. EU players tend to be in this "walled garden" of EU-centric tournaments. Players will have a ton of success around players that are around their own skill level, but then will get crushed the moment they step into a tournament with even Code B/Code A Koreans. Meanwhile, people will talk about IdrA's running losses, and forget that he's been playing Code A/Code S Koreans, or foreigners with proven successes in high profile tournaments (not counting the IEM World Champs, that was just bad). One way to figure this out - showmatches and small invitationals ala the GD Cup. Get $1000-2000 and get Fraer, Tefel, Diestar, and IdrA in a 4-man invitational. The GD one had Lucifron and Titan going up vs. Stephano and Ret. Stephano smashed the up and coming players but Titan beat Ret, which says he's a top PvZ player. Failing that, and because IdrA does get a bit arrogant at times about not accepting showmatches and invitationals, get a Korean Code A-Code S player and do the same thing. They want the money, and Fraer and Tefel want the publicity and the money. | ||
Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:18 FakeDeath wrote: Honestly speaking,Idra currently doesn't deserve those viewership numbers but i guess people love to see him since he is an American identity that people can related to and Idra doesn't rage so much as before. He just rage quit everytime he loses and i dunno how people find that amusing. People like Losira,Coca and etc that stream deserves more viewership numbers. EG isn't performing as well as though. He hasn't really ragequit anything in a while, now has he? Except the 6 pools against Huk, but I wouldn't call that ragequitting ![]() | ||
Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:10 iNcontroL wrote: wow asha` lol big fuck you too! At least you can take a little comfort from being the "half good one" in that post. Your win % is better than Idra's in 2012 after all! | ||
Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:22 Aocowns wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 07:18 FakeDeath wrote: Honestly speaking,Idra currently doesn't deserve those viewership numbers but i guess people love to see him since he is an American identity that people can related to and Idra doesn't rage so much as before. He just rage quit everytime he loses and i dunno how people find that amusing. People like Losira,Coca and etc that stream deserves more viewership numbers. EG isn't performing as well as though. He hasn't really ragequit anything in a while, now has he? Except the 6 pools against Huk, but I wouldn't call that ragequitting ![]() I dont know what you would call them, or the time he streamed after those games but I call them manner exits. ![]() | ||
JayDee_
548 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:24 Ryps wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 07:22 Aocowns wrote: On May 01 2012 07:18 FakeDeath wrote: Honestly speaking,Idra currently doesn't deserve those viewership numbers but i guess people love to see him since he is an American identity that people can related to and Idra doesn't rage so much as before. He just rage quit everytime he loses and i dunno how people find that amusing. People like Losira,Coca and etc that stream deserves more viewership numbers. EG isn't performing as well as though. He hasn't really ragequit anything in a while, now has he? Except the 6 pools against Huk, but I wouldn't call that ragequitting ![]() I dont know what you would call them, or the time he streamed after those games but I call them manner exits. ![]() You.. You don't go by no-ggs on ladder as ragequits, do you? | ||
CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:18 FakeDeath wrote: Honestly speaking,Idra currently doesn't deserve those viewership numbers but i guess people love to see him since he is an American identity that people can related to and Idra doesn't rage so much as before. He just rage quit everytime he loses and i dunno how people find that amusing. People like Losira,Coca and etc that stream deserves more viewership numbers. EG isn't performing as well as though. that is not why people watch IdrA's stream. you should tune in and try it and see what over 10,000 people have already discovered | ||
Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:14 Conti wrote: So that's "have a pro player comment in one of my threads" off my list of things I always wanted to do. Thank you very much, Sir! ![]() Can i count in too? OnTopic: I want to be on the list! Guess i should be streaming more :D | ||
Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:28 Nerchio wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 07:14 Conti wrote: On May 01 2012 07:10 iNcontroL wrote: wow asha` lol big fuck you too! So that's "have a pro player comment in one of my threads" off my list of things I always wanted to do. Thank you very much, Sir! ![]() Can i count in too? OnTopic: I want to be on the list! Guess i should be streaming more :D Yes, please do | ||
pt
United States813 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:26 JayDee_ wrote: Anybody get the scoop on Hui? 500 hours in a month is ~18 hours a day, which of course is impossible for one person. Does he just restream for half the day or have clanmates take over? its a month and a half | ||
Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:30 Aocowns wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 07:28 Nerchio wrote: On May 01 2012 07:14 Conti wrote: On May 01 2012 07:10 iNcontroL wrote: wow asha` lol big fuck you too! So that's "have a pro player comment in one of my threads" off my list of things I always wanted to do. Thank you very much, Sir! ![]() Can i count in too? OnTopic: I want to be on the list! Guess i should be streaming more :D Yes, please do I second this notion. | ||
Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:28 Nerchio wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 07:14 Conti wrote: On May 01 2012 07:10 iNcontroL wrote: wow asha` lol big fuck you too! So that's "have a pro player comment in one of my threads" off my list of things I always wanted to do. Thank you very much, Sir! ![]() Can i count in too? OnTopic: I want to be on the list! Guess i should be streaming more :D Haha, why of course! I cannot find you anywhere in my log, though. :/ Nor in TL's streamer list. Not under your name, anyhow. Guess that means you really ought to stream again. I'd watch you! | ||
revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Also is it possible to sort the data by days of the week. Are streams generally more popular at weekends? Are Fridays generally more popular than Mondays? Are total stream viewers increasing or declining - I know you have a very small sample of time to detect possible trends. I can see how individual streaming is great for players but is it harming tournaments streams? What about data from China? I imagine they have big numbers. Any possibility of getting some of that data to compare with the rest of the Foreign scene? I understand that is a lot of questions. But the rest of the thread seems to be hi-jacked by silly Idra bashing. | ||
ampson
United States2355 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:18 FakeDeath wrote: Honestly speaking,Idra currently doesn't deserve those viewership numbers but i guess people love to see him since he is an American identity that people can related to and Idra doesn't rage so much as before. He just rage quit everytime he loses and i dunno how people find that amusing. People like Losira,Coca and etc that stream deserves more viewership numbers. EG isn't performing as well as though. Well, I guess that we should just ignore idra because he is clearly not worthy of 10,000 fans. All stream viewers should consult you before watching anyone (to make sure that they are worthy of our viewership) because fuck watching who we want to watch. In fact, why don't you tell everyone what the best musical acts and TV shows are so that nobody ends up supporting all of those out there who you deem "unworthy." | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
It's interesting data. Maybe R1CH could help you make it a little more awesome? | ||
Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
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Phobbers
773 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:40 Sroobz wrote: This is wrong lol I've seen Stephano reach 19000 viewers and he always has like 8000+ So many people not reading the OP fully to realize that this data is from a certain time frame. /facepalm | ||
Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
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