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Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
July 12 2011 03:43 GMT
#161
Didn't buy season 1 but looking at the playing roster for season 2 I am going to buy the premium pass. No disrespect to some of the participants in season 1 but some of the fat has definitely been cut. If i can put up with NSW bias in my footy there's close to no level of production/professionalism which can put me off if the game quality is there.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 12 2011 03:43 GMT
#162
On July 12 2011 12:41 Hellscum wrote:
If they get a good vod system(like TSL or GSL) i would buy a new pass easily. However because of the slow uploads sometimes(Tyler vs Idra was like 3-4 days late) and the terrible vodsystem i'm not even considering it for now.


yeah, their vods are pretty bad and slow. i love how i can watch gsl the next day before i am spoilered through various threads.
ChefTony
Profile Joined March 2011
United States68 Posts
July 12 2011 03:46 GMT
#163
On July 12 2011 12:42 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 12:38 heatly wrote:
On July 12 2011 12:30 dAPhREAk wrote:
i didnt watch the weekly matches because it was just too damn much with all the other things going on. i would just watch my favorite players. however, the finals alone was worth the money. i will buy season 2 as well. the groups are too long though; shorten it please. =) otherwise, awesome tournament.



Were the finals worth the money because of the games or the production? Honestly with the exception of a few Sen/drkforce the games didn't get good until the Koreans meet and Artosis and Tasteless casted. Sounds like GSL to me. Although let me say GSL has yet to produce a final series like that. Maybe they should just let a the winner of code A/B go straight to the round of 16 code S : P


nasl was worth it. gsl is worth it. why cant i just like both? also, nasl brought americans, europeans and koreans together for an awesome competition. gsl hasn't done that. so, as far as tournaments go, both have their good points and bad points. plus, are people forgetting how bad gsl was in its first season? such limited memories. go look at the ban list for all the bitching directed at gsl and tastosis.



Of course you can like them both I was just expressing why I would not be purchasing the NASL season pass.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 12 2011 03:47 GMT
#164
nasl brought americans, europeans and koreans together for an awesome competition. gsl hasn't done that.


Did you watch the world championship?
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
July 12 2011 03:47 GMT
#165
I bought season 1 so I'd have access to VODs of series I wanted to watch knowing I can't always watch the live stream. NASL reported justintv was working on offering VODs in qualities besides 1080p which to my knowledge never happened. With monthly bandwidth caps I can't realistically use that amount of data, therefore couldn't watch VODs and therefore never got my money's worth. Unless I have guarantees the quality option will be available I won't purchase again.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 03:52:03
July 12 2011 03:49 GMT
#166
No half baked production from get go plus 3 months. I got short attention span and a life. 3 day tournaments are ideal for me not 3 months.

They should give MC and PuMA an extra $25,000 for saving their ass.
MC for president
heaven-
Profile Joined February 2010
United States361 Posts
July 12 2011 03:50 GMT
#167
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Unnamed Player
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia89 Posts
July 12 2011 03:53 GMT
#168
I bought season 1 but won't be buying season 2.

I advised them that iof Gretorp commentates season 2 then i won't be shelling out money because i have to turn down the volume as i can not tolerate his commentating.

He improved but his use of the word extremely, for every single event on non even drives me up the wall.

All in all it's really a very amateurish production and one that i won't pay for again unless they get their act together.

Many say they improved, and they did, but let's face it, they couldn't have gotten any worse.
Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
July 12 2011 03:53 GMT
#169
I still think they should replace Gretorp. The guy is just... embarrassing. I'd elaborate on what I'm talking about but no one is going to read this post, much less reply to it.

Everything else, pretty decent. I can even forgive all the technical hiccups of the finals. It was their first time, you have to have patience with these things. The games were great for the most part, so what's to complain about?

And I LOVE that MC didn't win, yay random Terran!
OCsurfeR
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States195 Posts
July 12 2011 03:55 GMT
#170
On July 12 2011 12:47 Trentelshark wrote:
I bought season 1 so I'd have access to VODs of series I wanted to watch knowing I can't always watch the live stream. NASL reported justintv was working on offering VODs in qualities besides 1080p which to my knowledge never happened. With monthly bandwidth caps I can't realistically use that amount of data, therefore couldn't watch VODs and therefore never got my money's worth. Unless I have guarantees the quality option will be available I won't purchase again.


Actually VODs are in fact now available in multiple resolutions and have been for several weeks. It was intermittent for a while as Justin.TV was in beta with the technology, but I believe it's been consistently up and running for a few weeks now.

We were very straight up with the community that we had requested this capability with Justin.TV right from the Season's start, and that JTV was aware of the request but that it was relatively low on their list of things to do with respect to making sure the live stream functioned properly. They got all of that squared away about 2/3 of the way through the season then tackled the VODs. I think they've done a stellar job in answering your request in a relatively short period of time.
"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?" - Chris Knight, Real Genius
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
July 12 2011 03:59 GMT
#171
No on season 1 and no on season 2. Just not feeling the NASL group play. The production value just isn't there and I did not enjoy the casting. The only tournament I have consistently payed for is GSL, I hold all season tickets thus far. I buy those because of Tastosis, and great games. I do not watch code A, nor GSTL with the caster and price\format change. I just feel like when I pay to watch a tournament I am basically saying with my money..."Yeah, this is exactly what I want"...and I only really feel like I get that from GSL Code S. I am totally open to buy an NASL season pass mid season if they turn things around next time...and the finals were completely baller, the games I mean not the tons of waiting and delays. But even with that those games were damn near the 25 dollar price tag alone. If the NASL brought itself up to GSL standards with daily, live group play and a better format, I think they would make alot more money and would help the growth of ESports in the west so much more. As it stands now I would not want to introduce a buddy to competitive SC2 by showing him the NASL sadly and I really want that to change. Hoping that they get some good feedback and turn things around in season 2, because I really would love to buy a pass.
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
Cold-Blood
Profile Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
July 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#172
On July 12 2011 07:30 Voltaire wrote:
Waste of money, seriously needs to be improved. No offense but I personally did not like the casting, especially when Gretorp was involved.


Are you on a fuck ton of crack?

Gretorp is the most amazing man alive and an even more amazing caster.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion....except you now (((:
Forever and Always #1 YellOw fan.
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 04:02:33
July 12 2011 04:02 GMT
#173
I bought the Season 1 pass because:

- They did a fucking terrible job with ads constantly popping up in the middle of games/talking. (Pretty sure I could do better production spending a little time searching google.)
- I hoped they would get better and wanted to support a developing NA scene.
- Some of the players looked quite promising, and I hoped the games would be good.

My thoughts at the end of the season:

- The casting and production significantly improved since the first week. The casting is now something I will listen to. The production is still embarrassingly unstable. When it's a good day, it's ok. When it's a bad day, it's unwatchable.
- I have extremely low expectations for the coming season now that Incontrol is leaving. He was one of the only people who consistently interacted with the community about NASL (not particularly professionally, which I found disappointing, but he's human too, and I think he has good intentions). Furthermore, as people pointed out in the NASL finals thread, it seems like other people on staff just don't know sc2 that well. Backwater Gulch wtf?
- The games turned out to be disappointing. It was nice to have games to watch every evening while at work, but honestly a lot of games were just kinda... meh. I would rather watch a daily about PvT (as a zerg), or just watch Huk's stream and listen to bad music than stare blankly at the NASL matches. I think it was a combination of a long season, not the best players (as in not everyone was really deserving), and a lot of games. It became redundant.
- The season felt like it didn't matter. People played all those games, showed up at the finals, and got knocked out in one Bo3. The only games that really excited me at the finals were... the championship games (which were fucking awesome).
- The website was hard to use. I constantly had to go to Jtv to log in to my account, and the vods were really poorly done.

My conclusion: I might tune in to watch a specific player or two next season. I MIGHT buy another pass once the season starts if the players are better and the season is shorter and actually matters. It is most likely I will watch some of Sheth's games, and then the finals on the free stream.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 12 2011 04:09 GMT
#174
On July 12 2011 12:47 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
nasl brought americans, europeans and koreans together for an awesome competition. gsl hasn't done that.


Did you watch the world championship?


yes. they had eight foreigners, two of whom lived in korea (huk and jinro). didnt feel much like an international tournament to me. i think most of the foreigners dropped out in the first two rounds as well, so we barely even saw them. didnt it turn into an all korean tourney by the ro8 or ro4?
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
July 12 2011 04:16 GMT
#175
Due to the poor handling of the vods in the first 4 weeks or so, I never bothered to watch any of them, and the live games were streamed during work hours. As a result I didn't go back to the regular season to watch any games. I'll consider buying the $10 pass for the final, but not for the regular season.
I am down but I am far from over
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
July 12 2011 04:22 GMT
#176
For me personally it comes down to the casting this season. I enjoyed the games and everything I just needed some casters. Incontrol is a good caster I just don't think he allows his co-caster enough time to speak. That was a good thing when he is with gretorp, but still. Idra in a few times was awesome! Find a caster and I will pay.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 04:26:38
July 12 2011 04:26 GMT
#177
On July 12 2011 13:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 12:47 Duravi wrote:
nasl brought americans, europeans and koreans together for an awesome competition. gsl hasn't done that.


Did you watch the world championship?


yes. they had eight foreigners, two of whom lived in korea (huk and jinro). didnt feel much like an international tournament to me. i think most of the foreigners dropped out in the first two rounds as well, so we barely even saw them. didnt it turn into an all korean tourney by the ro8 or ro4?

Just like all tournaments involving Koreans, later stage are mostly Koreans exclusively. The only reason why we don't see foreigners more is because they are not good enough. I don't really see this as fault of NASL.
Vashx
Profile Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
July 12 2011 04:26 GMT
#178
nothing wrong with gretorp...people just try to find stuff to complain about
Good ole' Deezer
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 12 2011 04:28 GMT
#179
On July 12 2011 13:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 12:47 Duravi wrote:
nasl brought americans, europeans and koreans together for an awesome competition. gsl hasn't done that.


Did you watch the world championship?


yes. they had eight foreigners, two of whom lived in korea (huk and jinro). didnt feel much like an international tournament to me. i think most of the foreigners dropped out in the first two rounds as well, so we barely even saw them. didnt it turn into an all korean tourney by the ro8 or ro4?


Umm dude..every tourny with koreans turns into an all korean tourny.
The Notorious Winkles
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
July 12 2011 04:28 GMT
#180
Just to leave some more feedback, I'd say that a decent website with proper vod system (similar to GSL) could have saved the deal for me. As it is, I simply didn't watch any game after the first few weeks, but I would have with good vods. Maybe I would have bought another season ticket too...

This was one of the most requested thing in the community from day 1 and yet NASL failed to oblige. Too bad.
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