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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
June 19 2009 15:37 GMT
#141
that one wall looks great, killing the gap between supplys. it should be just fine to use i think.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
June 19 2009 15:58 GMT
#142
shoulda played zerg ret
the throws never bothered me anyway
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
June 19 2009 16:11 GMT
#143
Yeah, should've 4pooled the guy both games XD.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 19 2009 16:14 GMT
#144
Just wondering ret, but since we're on the topic of walling, why didn't you go for the 1 supply 1 rax wall behind the nat? Curious as a T player
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4540 Posts
June 19 2009 16:20 GMT
#145
well because if you do that, and you fe into m^m, and your opponent 2 hatches, you have to worry about speedlings + fast mutas, so by having to make your b.o being able to defend vs speedlings you are pretty much auto death vs the mutas, whereas on the other spots, you can wallin and just counter the mutas by going fast 1 weapon.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 19 2009 16:23 GMT
#146
Oh cool, I usually do 1 depot 1 rax wall -> FE with bunker at nat. Does that hurt my econ/timing, and how bad?
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AstraBoy
Profile Joined August 2006
Peru363 Posts
June 19 2009 16:53 GMT
#147
it doesnt.
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
June 19 2009 16:55 GMT
#148
will we be getting replays from this event?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 19 2009 16:56 GMT
#149
On June 20 2009 01:55 Cube wrote:
will we be getting replays from this event?

Artosis saved the replays, so I guess so? Unless the eSTRO players object or something.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 19 2009 16:57 GMT
#150
the bunker and constant marines kills your +1 and barracks timings. muta harass is ridiculously strong on medusa, but at 6/3 you can go 1 rax ebay-> 3 rax asap meaning you're much better prepared for the mutas than on a normal map, so it balances out. if you cant do that the mutas are retardedly strong. and mech is not good on medusa.
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4540 Posts
June 19 2009 16:57 GMT
#151
On June 20 2009 01:23 konadora wrote:
Oh cool, I usually do 1 depot 1 rax wall -> FE with bunker at nat. Does that hurt my econ/timing, and how bad?


when playing vs zergs with crazy mutas, not having the +1 and the map being medusa with the highground behind the main it will hurt you enough so that it's auto-loss, at least imo.
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 19 2009 18:02 GMT
#152
On June 20 2009 00:58 peidongyang wrote:
shoulda played zerg ret


why would he offrace?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
June 19 2009 18:08 GMT
#153
On June 20 2009 03:02 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2009 00:58 peidongyang wrote:
shoulda played zerg ret


why would he offrace?



his main is z. but he dosnt play zvz so he play tvz
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 19 2009 18:47 GMT
#154
On June 20 2009 03:08 StorZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2009 03:02 Zoler wrote:
On June 20 2009 00:58 peidongyang wrote:
shoulda played zerg ret


why would he offrace?



his main is z. but he dosnt play zvz so he play tvz


Exactly, if his main mu is TvZ, then ZvZ is his offrace? (or off-matchup to be exact)
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
June 19 2009 19:04 GMT
#155
Man, I'm really bummed I missed this. I bet if ret played vs hwata again now knowing a little bit more about his play style he would win for sure. I've seen ret play some really good z's on iccup at A rank and beat them down hard.
Hi
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7696 Posts
June 19 2009 19:08 GMT
#156
All I have to say is that alot of you are complete jerks.

Ret is a fucking baller for playing live streamed matches against korean zergs. How the fuck can you do anything but respect the balls to do that.

Two hat muta micro from pro gamers is impossibly harder to beat then anything non-korean zergs do. I mean just knowing where to attack with the mutas for the first 25 seconds is a game changing affair and losing against someone who understands that is not a bad thing at all.

I think you vaginas need to change your tone and say thank you for having small events like this put on for you.

(This is addressed the the bm punks or the shit talkers.)

Jos HWaITING ~!~!~!

<3
pN.rain
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania17 Posts
June 19 2009 19:15 GMT
#157
Like AttackZerg said 2 hatch muta is insane against foreigners .

If those B-teamers play standard , ret can put a good fight against them , even in ZvT .
In these wavering skies , I will fly to you ...
Ellis
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
247 Posts
June 19 2009 19:18 GMT
#158
On June 20 2009 04:08 AttackZerg wrote:
Ret is a fucking baller for playing live streamed matches against korean zergs. How the fuck can you do anything but respect the balls to do that.

This.

Is ret going to play more matches regardless of the lost set? I think it would be great to see how he compares with other b-team members in other match ups.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
June 19 2009 19:21 GMT
#159
I would actually like to see ret play vs a B-team protoss the most. ret used to say that zvp was his worst m/u but I really like how he plays it.
Hi
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
June 19 2009 19:48 GMT
#160
Hey ret, how come you haven't played or familiarized yourself with mech? It's so popular on a lot of the maps nowadays.
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