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Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
June 19 2009 12:55 GMT
#101
On June 19 2009 21:49 streampowered wrote:
im super sure he just wanted to show how good he is and win with marines instead of camping mech and rolling out


Steampowered honestly stfu you idiot. You know I thought maybe you would quit talking 2 pages ago, but I guess stupidity pulls through again.
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-19 12:59:10
June 19 2009 12:55 GMT
#102
ret is probably top foreigner at the moment and I'm a ret fan...
but i don't know what people expected vs an Estro player...
its still foreigner vs PRO GAMER... the Gap is still significant i think

edit: wtf at people bashing ret!? like anyone could do any better wtf
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 19 2009 12:57 GMT
#103
What I want to know is..
1) Where has this massive influx of shitty threads come from?
2) Why are there so many shitty posters on this site now?

rahh

ggs ret, hope to see more in the future (hopefully without lag... there is a reason TL doesn't do live streams anymore =/)
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-19 12:58:30
June 19 2009 12:57 GMT
#104
Streampowered is trolling?

Edit: Ok some admin took care of it.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
June 19 2009 12:58 GMT
#105
damn that z was soooo good
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 19 2009 12:59 GMT
#106
Time to purge this place imo.
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
June 19 2009 13:00 GMT
#107
I missed this, anywhere I can still see vods/replays?
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
June 19 2009 13:02 GMT
#108
You can probably watch the games by clicking "On demand" on artosis' stream page
THE ANSWER IS 288
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
June 19 2009 13:05 GMT
#109
On June 19 2009 21:54 JohnBall wrote:
I didn't catch the matches, anyone cares to wirght a analysis? or maybe a replay?
Also, will Ret play against other progamers? I believe his zerg play is pretty good, I want to se him play against a pro terran or protoss.


Game 1:

Ret started at 11, which meant he couldn't wall in properly. He went quick CC into 2 rax. Even though he built a bunker, 6 zerglings still got in and raped the marines. Once 2 Hatch mutas popped out it was pretty much over.


Game 2:

Game was going ok until 4 zerglings snuck in and killed a turret at the natural like 10 seconds before the mutalisks arrived. The problem was that Ret had to move his marines very close to the mineral lines to defend, so when the Zerg player moved into the main it took forever for the marines to go back. Marines were stuck behind scv's and stuff. This let the mutalisks easily pick off all the marines and game was over.
#1 Terran hater
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2942 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-19 13:13:19
June 19 2009 13:09 GMT
#110
It always sucks to see your favorite player lose.

Too bad ret had kinda bad luck with the maps and spawning positions >.<. The second game seemed to be going pretty ok, but I guess on that level of play the smallest mistake can kill you. The zerg was awesome, knew exactly what to do, had a close to flawless execution and didn't allow ret to play up to his full potential.

Waiting for the next series :D (without the lag !)
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
June 19 2009 13:11 GMT
#111
On June 19 2009 21:57 Plexa wrote:
What I want to know is..
1) Where has this massive influx of shitty threads come from?
2) Why are there so many shitty posters on this site now?


... and it won't get better with sc II when the REAL masses are incoming (/pessimism /everything used to be better)

pity jos you couldn't show what you're really made of in these two suboptimal games. hopefully there'll be games with less lag / better starting positions.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
June 19 2009 13:12 GMT
#112
Despite all the shit (lag, bad map positions, retarded posts), ret is still being good manner about it. Class act.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
June 19 2009 13:14 GMT
#113
On June 19 2009 22:12 jpunshon wrote:
Despite all the shit (lag, bad map positions, retarded posts), ret is still being good manner about it. Class act.


deff, hes not raging which is nice. makes him a better person
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-19 13:16:46
June 19 2009 13:15 GMT
#114
Forgive me if I miss something, but what exactly is the problem with walling in on the top left of medusa? I can wall both the main choke and the nat choke ling-tight with 1sup 1rax / 2sup 1rax respectively.

I was too late to see the first game, so I don't know how ret walled.

Btw, I used ICCup NeoMedusa 2.0 for my wallins. I'm not sure if that is the most recent version, but in Jaedong v Baby (very recent proleague game), baby uses the exact same wallin at his nat and it seems to work just the same.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
June 19 2009 13:24 GMT
#115
gg´s nevertheless, hope you get more lucky next time =).

Also great commentating Artosis, why dont you pair up with tasteless?
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
June 19 2009 13:29 GMT
#116
I think ret pretty damn ok vs a zerg that (as Artosis said) practices 2 hatch muta into mass muta endlessly. GG
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
June 19 2009 13:30 GMT
#117
On June 19 2009 22:15 spinesheath wrote:
I was too late to see the first game, so I don't know how ret walled.

You (and anyone else who missed the games, like me!) can watch the games on Artosis's stream. In the on demand section. Both games are in the latest video.

Also: glad to see those idiots banned (and to see that they didn't really get to ret; continuing to reply to people like that takes way more patience than I have, at least). gl in any future games against estro!
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
June 19 2009 13:34 GMT
#118
no worries ret!!!

you're totally awesome!!!!!

never give up!! :D
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
June 19 2009 13:46 GMT
#119
bad luck ret, we can all agree that things could have gone better, but it's not like these two games define your existence
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 19 2009 13:53 GMT
#120
On June 19 2009 22:15 spinesheath wrote:
Forgive me if I miss something, but what exactly is the problem with walling in on the top left of medusa? I can wall both the main choke and the nat choke ling-tight with 1sup 1rax / 2sup 1rax respectively.

I was too late to see the first game, so I don't know how ret walled.

Btw, I used ICCup NeoMedusa 2.0 for my wallins. I'm not sure if that is the most recent version, but in Jaedong v Baby (very recent proleague game), baby uses the exact same wallin at his nat and it seems to work just the same.

There is a complete wall-in available at 11 iirc, except you'll have to lift your rax to let your marine in, which is rather risky and unsafe.
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