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On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.
Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. What part of MODCONFIRMED UNLYNCHABLE/UNKILLABLE do you not understand? Next person that discusses wbg or engages in any useless conversation with him get's my vote. Consider it like he is not even playing in this game. /sandroba I definitely agree with this. We shouldn't allow players to pretend to contribute by speculating on a role that has little impact on the events of the first few days. If wherebugsgo wants to coordinate with town to somehow mutually achieve our goals, then that's fine, but otherwise it is best to ignore him. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:50 gumshoe wrote:
moving on lets discuss policy(it'll only take a bit and we may as well get it over with early on) do we set a preliminary lynch deadline?(im leaning 8 hours in advance if we do) Do we policy lynch hardcore lurkers?(by hardcore I mean like 3 one liners a cycle, personally for this because lynching lurkers always helps clear the air a bit and they werent helping anyway so nothing really lost) are we going to elect a mayor?( I've never done this before so I dont know how that works) If you want to discuss policy, then why are you just giving a bunch of questions? You should share what your actual opinion is. A no-lynch should be out of the question as this person suggests: Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 23:39 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, damn it... No editing! However, I just thought that since you HAVE to vote every day, it might not be such a bad idea to throw random votes early. In my previous Mafia games it was common not to lynch anyone on the first day, and wait for clues on the second day. When people random lynched on the first day, it usually just meant an easier win for the Mafia. We don't accomplish anything and obtain no information if everyone gets a free pass on day one. Lurkers should be pressured to post, but the day one lynch shouldn't only be focused on people without posts since it is also tough to generate information. Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 23:06 Xatalos wrote:(At least we now get to see some interesting reactions, I hope! Acrofales had a quite interesting reaction, too, although it doesn't necessarily mean Mafia yet... Some people haven't said anything at all yet, and I can't wait to see what they say. At this rate there will be a huge amount of data to base lynch votes on  ) This is a sketchy post. What does "interesting" mean? Is it scummy? You should draw conclusions rather than tell us that you look forward to reading peoples posts.
my opinions are right there in brackets, 8 hour dealine, yes to lynching lurkers, dont know about voting for mayors, please read my post fully next time.
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On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.
Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. What part of MODCONFIRMED UNLYNCHABLE/UNKILLABLE do you not understand? Next person that discusses wbg or engages in any useless conversation with him get's my vote. Consider it like he is not even playing in this game. /sandroba I definitely agree with this. We shouldn't allow players to pretend to contribute by speculating on a role that has little impact on the events of the first few days. If wherebugsgo wants to coordinate with town to somehow mutually achieve our goals, then that's fine, but otherwise it is best to ignore him. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:50 gumshoe wrote:
moving on lets discuss policy(it'll only take a bit and we may as well get it over with early on) do we set a preliminary lynch deadline?(im leaning 8 hours in advance if we do) Do we policy lynch hardcore lurkers?(by hardcore I mean like 3 one liners a cycle, personally for this because lynching lurkers always helps clear the air a bit and they werent helping anyway so nothing really lost) are we going to elect a mayor?( I've never done this before so I dont know how that works) If you want to discuss policy, then why are you just giving a bunch of questions? You should share what your actual opinion is. A no-lynch should be out of the question as this person suggests: Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 23:39 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, damn it... No editing! However, I just thought that since you HAVE to vote every day, it might not be such a bad idea to throw random votes early. In my previous Mafia games it was common not to lynch anyone on the first day, and wait for clues on the second day. When people random lynched on the first day, it usually just meant an easier win for the Mafia. We don't accomplish anything and obtain no information if everyone gets a free pass on day one. Lurkers should be pressured to post, but the day one lynch shouldn't only be focused on people without posts since it is also tough to generate information. Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 23:06 Xatalos wrote:(At least we now get to see some interesting reactions, I hope! Acrofales had a quite interesting reaction, too, although it doesn't necessarily mean Mafia yet... Some people haven't said anything at all yet, and I can't wait to see what they say. At this rate there will be a huge amount of data to base lynch votes on ) This is a sketchy post. What does "interesting" mean? Is it scummy? You should draw conclusions rather than tell us that you look forward to reading peoples posts.
The thing is, how do you know when wbg is working with town at any point, though. I think it needs to be policy to just ignore him no matter what he does.
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On March 22 2012 01:45 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:42 gumshoe wrote:On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.
Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. Why waste a hit? I find it hard to believe Scum are going to come forward like that and claim Baelish(it seems to crazy for even a player like Caller) so way I see it where is either a vanilla townie way down below in flea bottom dreaming of some day ruling the kingdom with an iron fist, or hes baelish and we waste a hit/reveal third party to scum. Personally I think we should stay clear of trying to lynch Baelish, unless someone claims there him just before we kill him, in which case they fully deserve to die as we had already decided. If we lynch Where it should be because we think hes scum, not Baelish, do you really think Where is scum this early in the game? It appears I need to add (Sarcasm) to the end of my jokes.
Yes in the future I would appreciate that. Any questions for me before I head to school? I'll be here another half an hour.
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I think the 8 hour deadline is unnecessary. It just needs to be said that last minute vote switches almost never go in favor of the town. So, we need to work out our majority or at least come close before there is a time crunch at the end of the day. If everyone understands that, I see no need to have a soft deadline.
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On March 22 2012 02:07 DoYouHas wrote:
I think the 8 hour deadline is unnecessary. It just needs to be said that last minute vote switches almost never go in favor of the town. So, we need to work out our majority or at least come close before there is a time crunch at the end of the day. If everyone understands that, I see no need to have a soft deadline.
Fair enough, the players are pretty good so it's probably not necessary, what do you think of Acrofales?
Also do we want to elect a mayor?
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I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway.
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On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
We don't know his win condition, and we can't do anything to him, so I guess it would be best just to completely ignore him? The more he trolls the game, the easier time Mafia will have. The less of a presence he has, the easier it will be for town!
The more I think about it, the first reaction of Acrofales is pretty suspicious... If there is no better candidate, he might be a good target. However, he could also have been just upset by the random votes as a beginner. But the reaction was a bit... strong, for a townie...?
I didn't choose you for your player history or anything, gumshoe! In fact, I didn't even look at your profile  I just dislike people who lurk and say nothing, and you were the first lurker I saw when I looked for lurkers - but you were just offline, so it's not really suspicious.
I wonder if we should continue with the random votes...? It seems a bit counter-intuitive to me, but it seems to produce a lot of good data (reactions from the targets, and even other players!).
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I have already said what I think about Acrofales. He hasn't posted anything new that would change my opinion.
Mayor elections are built into the game by the mod (at least I think so). This game doesn't have it, meaning you would need consensus from most players to get it going. You won't get that, and you would be wasting your time to try. Stop talking about mayors imo.
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On March 22 2012 02:14 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:07 DoYouHas wrote:
I think the 8 hour deadline is unnecessary. It just needs to be said that last minute vote switches almost never go in favor of the town. So, we need to work out our majority or at least come close before there is a time crunch at the end of the day. If everyone understands that, I see no need to have a soft deadline. Fair enough, the players are pretty good so it's probably not necessary, what do you think of Acrofales? Also do we want to elect a mayor?
There is no mayor vote unless the mod/daypost says so
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On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway.
oh so your his scum teammate?
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On March 22 2012 01:50 DoYouHas wrote:Acrofales reads exactly like newb scum to me from his first posts. His first post reads as already being defensive to me: Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 18:51 Acrofales wrote:Hi everybody! Well, Curu hasn't said I cannot speculate about Petyr's win condition. Remember that this is idle speculation, but I have read the books a number of times and if Petyr is anything, he is untrustworthy. He only serves his own means, so I am inclined to ignore everything he says, including that he is a vanilla townie  My hunch is that he must kill Ned Stark and keep Catelyn and/or Sansa alive until the end of the game to win. And then he pulls an OMGUS on 2 different people in a very short period of time. ##Vote: AcrofalesGumshoe, wake up and read day1 carefully. We already know who Littlefinger is 100%. It is given information. Your posts are yet to actually be relevant to the game.
What you bolded was basically a follow-up to my question before the game started:
On March 20 2012 18:13 Acrofales wrote:Are we allowed to speculate about what Littlefinger's win condition is? I have a hunch Unfortunately it has nothing to do with Dementors eating Daenerys baby in order to generate infinite facebook spam messages.
As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit, with later people talking about the random votes. It is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. People instavoting for me got me a bit upset. I am happy to unvote Matthew when a better candidate comes up, the ghost of High Heart is kinda cryptic when it comes to her prophecies It was more of a "if you vote for me, then I'll vote for you"-thing anyway.
That said, Matthew, why did you vote for me? Chaoser already had the random vote on me. The 2nd one was just mean. That vote has been the entire contribution to this game, with no explanation or text (except for a lololololol, which is even less useful).
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On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote:
What does "interesting" mean? Is it scummy?
Any kind of information is good (this is a game of information, after all ) - such as information that increases or decreases the chances of someone being Mafia. There can never be 100% certainty, but since we have to vote every day, we will have to go by probabilities, and without information there can be no probabilities. We have already gathered a lot of info, but many (half?) of the players have talked next to nothing. Even if we lynched Acrofales as a "somewhat likely" Mafia, we would still want to gather more reactions before Saturday.
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Mattchew I'd love to hear your thoughts. All I seen from you so far is an unexplained sheep vote with your first post in the game. This is followed by declaring Lyter scum for remotely defending Acrofales. Not the best start if you ask me
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On March 22 2012 02:17 DoYouHas wrote:
I have already said what I think about Acrofales. He hasn't posted anything new that would change my opinion.
Mayor elections are built into the game by the mod (at least I think so). This game doesn't have it, meaning you would need consensus from most players to get it going. You won't get that, and you would be wasting your time to try. Stop talking about mayors imo.
Wasn't aware, always thought mayors were just achieved through consensus. In regard to Acrofales I'm sure your well aware that my sympathies always go to first time townies who fuck up at the start, but his response was just pure ombus, which was similar to sloosh and ech in suprisingly normal mini mafia, yet the difference was in that game Sloosh and Ech kept fighting blow for blow because they knew they were townies, Acrofales just sort of clammed up. He's not fighting hard enough, which first time newbie townies tend to do way too much. I'm down for voting for him not because of his silly ombus, but because he backed down when pressured.
Acrofales
+ Show Spoiler +As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit
Townies don't just calm down when their under pressure. He's either blue(which is unlikely considering his ombus) a total noob green(also unlikely because he just dropped his hostile tone when the pressure came down) or scum(the most probable)
Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place?
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kk im signing off, later guys.
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On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:17 DoYouHas wrote:
I have already said what I think about Acrofales. He hasn't posted anything new that would change my opinion.
Mayor elections are built into the game by the mod (at least I think so). This game doesn't have it, meaning you would need consensus from most players to get it going. You won't get that, and you would be wasting your time to try. Stop talking about mayors imo. Wasn't aware, always thought mayors were just achieved through consensus. In regard to Acrofales I'm sure your well aware that my sympathies always go to first time townies who fuck up at the start, but his response was just pure ombus, which was similar to sloosh and ech in suprisingly normal mini mafia, yet the difference was in that game Sloosh and Ech kept fighting blow for blow because they knew they were townies, Acrofales just sort of clammed up. He's not fighting hard enough, which first time newbie townies tend to do way too much. I'm down for voting for him not because of his silly ombus, but because he backed down when pressured. Acrofales + Show Spoiler +As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit Townies don't just calm down when their under pressure. He's either blue(which is unlikely considering his ombus) a total noob green(also unlikely because he just dropped his hostile tone when the pressure came down) or scum(the most probable) Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place?
ummmmmmmmm, wat?
its not even 1/4th through day 1, and we are only 2 pages into the game. A role claim at this point is completely unessesary. I'm suspicious of why you seem so eager for it.
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On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate?
Really? You haven't actually done anything other than point fingers so far, with literally nothing to support yourself
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:17 DoYouHas wrote:
I have already said what I think about Acrofales. He hasn't posted anything new that would change my opinion.
Mayor elections are built into the game by the mod (at least I think so). This game doesn't have it, meaning you would need consensus from most players to get it going. You won't get that, and you would be wasting your time to try. Stop talking about mayors imo. Wasn't aware, always thought mayors were just achieved through consensus. In regard to Acrofales I'm sure your well aware that my sympathies always go to first time townies who fuck up at the start, but his response was just pure ombus, which was similar to sloosh and ech in suprisingly normal mini mafia, yet the difference was in that game Sloosh and Ech kept fighting blow for blow because they knew they were townies, Acrofales just sort of clammed up. He's not fighting hard enough, which first time newbie townies tend to do way too much. I'm down for voting for him not because of his silly ombus, but because he backed down when pressured. Acrofales + Show Spoiler +As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit Townies don't just calm down when their under pressure. He's either blue(which is unlikely considering his ombus) a total noob green(also unlikely because he just dropped his hostile tone when the pressure came down) or scum(the most probable) Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place?
I see gumshoe never fails to deliver.
I think everyone needs to cool their jets on this Acrofales thing, let's let him respond at least.
Ya, dig?
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On March 22 2012 02:55 Lyter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? Really? You haven't actually done anything other than point fingers so far, with literally nothing to support yourself
The ever infallible "NO U" defense...
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Who wants to kill gumshoe? yey or ney?
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